Patent trolling leads to its ultimate conclusion
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Computer generates all possible ideas to beat patent trolls
A project called All Prior Art generates millions of trivial ideas and places them in the public domain so they can’t be patented for profit
How about, just disallow patenting ideas, OK? You should only be able to patent things that require work to accomplish. It's that simple.
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@cartman82 said in Patent trolling leads to its ultimate conclusion:
How about, just disallow patenting ideas, OK? You should only be able to patent things that require work to accomplish.
I don’t think it’s as simple as that, unfortunately. What if all you have right now is an idea that you fully intend to work out into a practical thing, but you want to patent it before someone beats you to it? Or to put it another way: who or what decides whether work is required to accomplish the thing?
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It may be a double-edged sword. Maybe allowing patents encourages people to come up with new ideas that could improve our lives. But maybe disallowing patents allows people to improve on ideas just slightly so that there isn't a monopoly on an idea that is implemented poorly by the one and only person who owns the rights to it.
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@cartman82 said in Patent trolling leads to its ultimate conclusion:
You should only be able to patent things that require work to accomplish.
I hereby patent the idea of a machine that is hooked into a manufacturing process that generates all possible widgets as prior art.
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I patent the idea of patents.
Now all of you give me money for thinking about patents!
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@Tsaukpaetra And then give it all to me, as I patented the idea of patenting the idea of patents :P
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@RaceProUK said in Patent trolling leads to its ultimate conclusion:
And then give it all to me
With pleasure*...
* stands up as if coming out of a daze *
Oh crap, did I just.... (hides from @accalia)
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@cartman82 I wonder if I can turn any of these into writing prompts for a short story...
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@Yamikuronue said in Patent trolling leads to its ultimate conclusion:
I wonder if I can turn any of these into writing prompts for a short story...
Maybe. I like this one:
It seems to describe some kind of rotating switch thing?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Patent trolling leads to its ultimate conclusion:
@RaceProUK said in Patent trolling leads to its ultimate conclusion:
And then give it all to me
With pleasure*...
* stands up as if coming out of a daze *
Oh crap, did I just.... (hides from @accalia)
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i'm not angry.... I'm just disappointed.
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*makes cute eyes at @accalia*
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@accalia said in Patent trolling leads to its ultimate conclusion:
i'm not angry.... I'm just disappointed.
Is that an invitation? I do need practice I think...
Filed under: One day someone will be able to give me a straight answer if I cuddle good or not...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Patent trolling leads to its ultimate conclusion:
Is that an invitation?
if you donb't know i'm not telling you! :-P
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@Lorne-Kates said in Patent trolling leads to its ultimate conclusion:
I hereby patent the idea of a machine that is hooked into a manufacturing process that generates all possible widgets as prior art.
You should make that your signature, because nothing conveys the elegant idea of fuck you give me money better than patents.
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@accalia said in Patent trolling leads to its ultimate conclusion:
if you donb't know i'm not telling you!
I'll admit it's usually difficult to tell. There's no "Take a number. Now serving
1" system in place...
Filed under: That sign has been sitting at
1for a looong time....
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*has ticket number
1*
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@RaceProUK said in Patent trolling leads to its ultimate conclusion:
*has ticket number
1through1e(1e100)*
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@accalia How many kilogrammes of ticket is that?
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@PleegWat unfathomably many
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From five years ago:
IBM Files Application to Patent The Patent Process
Reading through IT patents these days requires patience and tolerance. When you can patent common sense, there is clearly something wrong with the system.
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@mott555 Unfortunately, the application was written in JSONX so no one read it.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Patent trolling leads to its ultimate conclusion:
@Yamikuronue said in Patent trolling leads to its ultimate conclusion:
I wonder if I can turn any of these into writing prompts for a short story...
Maybe. I like this one:
It seems to describe some kind of rotating switch thing?
Filled with blood with LEDs on top? Festive, but horrifying.
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@dse said in Patent trolling leads to its ultimate conclusion:
because nothing conveys the elegant idea of fuck you give me money better than patents.
Well, maybe the word "Verizon".
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@cartman82 said in Patent trolling leads to its ultimate conclusion:
How about, just disallow patenting ideas, OK? You should only be able to patent things that require work to accomplish. It's that simple.
This, SO MUCH THIS! The purpose and intent of the Patent system (in the US anyway) was if someone came up with a USEFUL, and NON-TRIVIAL idea (seriously, that is in the paperwork that everyone apparently ignores, including the retarded Patent office), AND IMPLEMENTED IT (e.g. figured out how to fucking make it work!), then, and ONLY then, the public would be willing to grant that person an exclusive right to profit from the implementation of the invention, for a set period of time. IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT, the inventor had to give up the blueprints for the invention, so that it would (eventually) benefit everyone.
So, if you come up with the IDEA of a "horseless carriage" great! How? Oh, you only have the idea? Sorry, no Patent for you. Oh, you also have an idea for a "horseless carriage" AND you have blueprints for an internal combustion engine that you are ready to put into production now Mr. Ford? ... Here's your patent.
How in the FUCK did we lose sight of that? The system was NEVER intended to just let any asshole with only an idea to patent the IDEA itself. Amazon wants to patent "one click ordering?" For fuck's sake, that IDEA has been around since there were servants and phones, and one just ordered someone to get something in a single command. Yeah, Amazon, you can have a fucking "patent" on the SOURCE CODE of your implementation of the idea, but no, you can't have the idea itself patented. You fucking tools. (Yes, I am still mad about the "one click" patent=_=)
On the positive side, NewEgg's lawyers are my new personal saviors and heroes. They have been absolutely SPANKING the patent trolls in court lately. It has gotten to the point where the trolls flee before them in a Romans vs. the Visigoths sort of scenario (trolls be the Romans, yo), and even when the trolls accidentally sue NewEgg, they will drop the suit as soon as they realize it, and then NewEgg will file the charges again anyway, "just to answer the questions they wanted answered." NewEgg's lawyers are getting so good at it, that they have started stepping in and offering to help others being bullied by the trolls, and the trolls actually claim that it is unfair for NewEgg to do that (while hurrying to drop their suits with prejudice). I lurves them <3
Seriously, Lee Cheng is like one of my favorite humans on Earth right now, and he's a lawyer! That shit is hard to do right there. ;)
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@Gurth said in Patent trolling leads to its ultimate conclusion:
@cartman82 said in Patent trolling leads to its ultimate conclusion:
How about, just disallow patenting ideas, OK? You should only be able to patent things that require work to accomplish.
who or what decides whether work is required to accomplish the thing?
Fiiiiiiiine, I'll do it.
