🔥 Liberals need to be told that hitchhiking in Muslim countries greatly increases your chance of encounters with rapists and murderers, apparently.


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    Bleeding-heart liberal hitchhikes halfway through Muslim country in attempt to to prove that Muslims are peaceful and deserve trust. "Halfway" because, in a completely surprising turn of events, her journey was cut short when she was raped and murdered and her naked corpse was left in a shrubbery by a "peaceful" Muslim man who picked her up from the side of the road.



  • @anotherusername said:

    Bleeding-heart liberal hitchhikes halfway through Muslim country in attempt to to prove that Muslims are peaceful and deserve trust. "Halfway" because, in a completely surprising turn of events, her journey was cut short when she was raped and murdered and her naked corpse was left in a shrubbery by a "peaceful" Muslim man who picked her up from the side of the road.

    Eh, I'm an infidel, but it's risky for a woman to hitchhike anywhere. I find it more interesting that the moron who murdered her " placed his SIM card into Bacca's mobile phone ". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pippa_Bacca



  • @anotherusername said:

    she was raped and murdered

    I believe this is in the wrong topic. It is ironic, perhaps even deliciously ironic, depending on how antagonistic one is toward bleeding-heart liberals, but even an idiot being raped and murdered is not funny.


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    @HardwareGeek said:

    raped and murdered is not funny.

    I had this same thought, but lately I feel like I shouldn't be voicing my thoughts...


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    Thank you for providing this link that points out that it's not something from 2016 as @anotherusername's link's URL implies, but something from 2008.


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    @aliceif said:

    Thank you for providing this link that points out that it's not something from 2016 as @anotherusername's link's URL implies, but something from 2008.

    Are you surprised? That's been the modus operandi of the right wing for a while now: Dig out old horror stories and pretend they just happened to spread hate and scare people.



  • "Idiot liberal hitchhikes through Middle East to prove Muslims are peaceful. Was raped and murdered instead"

    That's literally the title on this site that is obviously completely neutral and certainly has no ideological axe to grind.



  • Come on guys, with a name like Red Flag News, it must be totally legit...



  • @chozang said:

    Eh, I'm an infidel, but it's risky for a woman to hitchhike anywhere.

    That's a halfway legitimate point, but it's a bit of an apples and oranges comparison. There are a lot of women who would never hitchhike even in countries where it would be relatively safe for them to do so; other women probably hitchhike safely virtually everyday. But the relative level of risk of doing it in Turkey is, obviously, a lot higher.

    @HardwareGeek said:

    even an idiot being raped and murdered is not funny.

    @Tsaukpaetra said:

    I had this same thought

    @PJH said:

    5 posts were split to a new topic: Moved from funny stuff, because it wasn't funny...

    Darwin Awards aren't funny? Because that woman should be a prime candidate for one. Seeing or hearing about someone's own lethal stupidity causing them to get hurt or killed is not funny? And what about all those "Instant karma!" videos on YouTube... not funny either?

    It's only funny until someone gets hurt. Then it's hilarious...

    @cartman82 said:

    "Idiot liberal hitchhikes through Middle East to prove Muslims are peaceful. Was raped and murdered instead"

    That's literally the title on this site that is obviously completely neutral and certainly has no ideological axe to grind.

    @RevCurtisP said:

    Come on guys, with a name like Red Flag News, it must be totally legit...

    I deliberately found a source that was as antagonistic toward her as possible. The BBC and The New York Times also reported on it, if you want a less editorial opinion of what happened.

    @aliceif said:

    it's not something from 2016 as @anotherusername's link's URL implies, but something from 2008

    @asdf said:

    Are you surprised? That's been the modus operandi of the right wing for a while now: Dig out old horror stories and pretend they just happened to spread hate and scare people.

    If I'd noticed that it was from 2008, I would've mentioned it. However, the fact that it happened in 2008 really doesn't make it any less funny, although I guess it might disqualify her from this year's Darwin Awards.


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    @anotherusername said:

    Darwin Awards aren't funny? Because that woman should be a prime candidate for one. Seeing or hearing about someone's own lethal stupidity causing them to get hurt or killed is not funny? And what about all those "Instant karma!" videos on YouTube... not funny either?

    I wouldn't call them funny either. It's all fun and games until somebody loses an eye, or one's life.

    @anotherusername said:

    I guess it might disqualify her from this year's Darwin Awards.

    IMHO it wouldn't even qualify for a Darwin Award. You're making this all sound as if she was asking to be raped and murdered whereas the actual awards are about juggling with handgrenades.



  • Nooo, you don't get it. The point is that Arabs are savage animals and anyone dealing with them in any way other than shooting them in the face is just as terminally stupid as the guy juggling grenades or jumping into a lion's cage.



  • @JBert said:

    IMHO it wouldn't even qualify for a Darwin Award. You're making this all sound as if she was asking to be raped and murdered whereas the actual awards are about juggling with handgrenades.

    You don't think that a woman hitchhiking alone through a Muslim country is as dumb as juggling with hand grenades?

    Anyway, not all the awards are like that; the 2008 awards included one man who was killed when his can that he'd converted to use CNG exploded while he was filling it. Instead of having it properly converted, he tried to DIY, and he used an LPG tank which was not suitable for the high pressure of CNG. The award was "controversial" because lack of knowledge is common enough that this kind of confusion between LPG and CNG actually isn't too uncommon, but it was decided to award it because he was a "skilled electrician" who should've known better. Just like this woman should've known better.

    Anyway, it certainly meets the requirements as stated:

    Reproduction

    • Out of the gene pool: dead or sterile.
      Excellence
    • Astounding misapplication of judgment.
      Self-Selection
    • Cause one's own demise.
      Maturity
    • Capable of sound judgment.
      Veracity
    • The event must be true.

    I think it'd be hard to argue that "Astounding misapplication of judgement" wasn't involved.



  • @Maciejasjmj said:

    Nooo, you don't get it. The point is that Arabs are savage animals and anyone dealing with them in any way other than shooting them in the face is just as terminally stupid as the guy juggling grenades or jumping into a lion's cage.

    Who said anything about Arabs? They're not the same thing.

    A woman trying to hitchhike alone with Muslim men to try to prove that it's safe to do so was incredibly stupid, and it had a really high probability of ending really badly.



  • @anotherusername said:

    A woman trying to hitchhike alone with Muslim men to try to prove that it's safe to do so was incredibly stupid, and it had a really high probability of ending really badly.

    Yeeeah, I guess you're right. It's so retarded, thinking that Muslims are anything but brutal rapists and murderers. I mean, what was she thinking? It's like driving by a nigger and expecting not to get carjacked! Or thinking a jew won't steal your money!

    And it's so hilarious because she's a liberal. How do you even rape a liberal, those hippie chicks are always asking for it! It's like raping a gay, just plain impossible! My God man, thanks for the link, I'm laughing so hard right now. My sides literally hurt. Fuckin' liberals, man... fuckin' liberals.


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    @anotherusername said:

    Anyway, it certainly meets the requirements as stated:

    Reproduction

    • Out of the gene pool: dead or sterile.
      Excellence
    • Astounding misapplication of judgment.
      Self-Selection
    • Cause one's own demise.
      Maturity
    • Capable of sound judgment.
      Veracity
    • The event must be true.

    I think it'd be hard to argue that "Astounding misapplication of judgement" wasn't involved.


    If you really want to stick to the grim humor which is part of the Darwin Awards I'd have to argue based on this:

    Self-Selection

    • Cause one's own demise.

    She was raped and murdered by some other human being who should have had some form of judgement, that's not self-selection as far as I see it. Stop blaming the victim.



  • @anotherusername said:

    Anyway, it certainly meets the requirements as stated:

    Self-Selection- Cause one's own demise.


    How does getting murdered fit the self-selection criteria at all?



  • She took a random sampling of Muslim men, and all it took for something bad to happen to her was her running into one rapist-murderer in the lot.



  • Now explain to the peanut gallery here why getting raped and murdered by a white Catholic is not an astounding misapplication of judgement.

    Or, in fact, maybe we should just assume that any woman dealing with men other than her husband is just asking to be raped and murdered. Why not? I mean, it only takes one rapist-murderer.



  • @asdf said:

    That's been the modus operandi of the right wingInternet for a while now:

    It's easy to miss a date.



  • @anotherusername said:

    She took a random sampling of Muslim men, and all it took for something bad to happen to her was her running into one rapist-murderer in the lot.

    Well, maybe she sampled wrongly. And the sample size was definitely too low to make any judgements.

    What we need to do is to make a proper research - gather 100 women and have them hitchhike at least 40 times - then see how many end up dead! :trolleybus:



  • @Maciejasjmj said:

    Now explain to the peanut gallery here why getting raped and murdered by a white Catholic is not an astounding misapplication of judgement.

    Or, in fact, maybe we should just assume that any woman dealing with men other than her husband is just asking to be raped and murdered. Why not? I mean, it only takes one rapist-murderer.

    Because the chances of that happening in a Western country are extremely low, clearly unlike in Turkey where one of the first two women foolish enough to try it, that we know of, got raped and murdered.



  • @Gaska said:

    Well, maybe she sampled wrongly. And the sample size was definitely too low to make any judgements.

    What we need to do is to make a proper research - gather 100 women and have them hitchhike at least 40 times - then see how many end up dead! :trolleybus:

    Maybe some of Hillary's hookers would want to volunteer for that.



  • @anotherusername said:

    Because the chances of that happening in a Western country are extremely low

    Right; we need two groups of 100 women - one hitchhiking around Turkey, another hitchhiking around France! :fa_arrow_up: :trolleybus: :fa_arrow_up:



  • About the only difference I've found from, actual rapists or the people around them,

    • Muslim rapist has a Muslim woman defend them by saying it's normal where they are from
    • Muslim rapist has a feminist defend them because they are more oppressed than white women.
    • Muslim rapist blames the woman for making them rape.
    • Muslim rape victim ends up accused of a crime and thrown in jail by Muslim justice system.

    --

    • Western rapist doesn't have a western woman defending them.
    • Western rapist doesn't have a feminist defending them.
    • Western rapist blames the woman for getting raped.
    • Western rape victim is doubted by western justice system, because innocent until proven guilty.

    They're slight differences though, and honestly I don't care very much.

    I'm against any rape.



  • @anotherusername said:

    Because the chances of that happening in a Western country are extremely low...

    Yeah, rape and murder almost never happen in the United States. Most days, you only hear about one or two murders on your local evening news. That's practically non-existent!



  • @Dragnslcr said:

    Yeah, rape and murder almost never happen in the United States. Most days, you only hear about one or two murders on your local evening news. That's practically non-existent!

    In an indirect way, rape is legal in some Muslim countries.

    As such, you'll probably never be able to compare counts of rape to see which is a worse rape culture.



  • @JBert said:

    If you really want to stick to the grim humor which is part of the Darwin Awards I'd have to argue based on this:

    Self-Selection

    • Cause one's own demise.

    She was raped and murdered by some other human being who should have had some form of judgement, that's not self-selection as far as I see it. Stop blaming the victim.

    It's really a shame if jumping into an exhibit full of wild animals to show that they're friendly can win you a Darwin award, but going to a country where women are traditionally treated very poorly and getting into cars with strange men until you find one that rapes and murders you can not.

    @Dragnslcr said:

    Yeah, rape and murder almost never happen in the United States. Most days, you only hear about one or two murders on your local evening news. That's practically non-existent!

    The vast majority of the time, the rapist/murderer and victim were previously acquainted. It's pretty rare for a complete stranger to rape and kill someone just because they saw the chance to do so, and it makes all sorts of news when it does happen. It's usually a serial rapist/murderer, and the idea that they're picking their victims at random terrifies people, because you think you'd be able to tell if anyone you knew was capable of something like that; except you really wouldn't... statistically, you're far more at risk from the people you know.



  • @anotherusername said:

    wild animals to show that they're friendly can win you a Darwin award

    Because the only group that will complain about that award is PETA.... because lions are friendly for some reason.

    But there's 1 billion Muslims with at least half of them not living in an oppressive 3rd world theocratic regime.

    Syrians had a pretty stable country.

    Now, I did the math, and there's about 40 million Muslims in Egypt that think that Sharia law should be implemented for everyone (not just Muslims) worldwide, and that includes stoning women for cheating on their spouse. That's a little more concerning to me.

    The handful that go around raping can be dealt with by throwing them in jail to meet bubba. 40 million is a lot more than the media lets on, and that's just in one country.

    On the flip side, a surprising amount of Muslims do not like Sharia law, or think it only applies to Muslims, and their version is a lot less violent.


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    @anotherusername said:

    Darwin Awards aren't funny? Because that woman should be a prime candidate for one. Seeing or hearing about someone's own lethal stupidity causing them to get hurt or killed is not funny? And what about all those "Instant karma!" videos on YouTube... not funny either?

    It's only funny until someone gets hurt. Then it's hilarious...

    As far as I know, actual legitimate Darwin awards aren't so funny (though they can be), but I've been told rape is automatically not funny.
    Lately though my knowledge and beliefs have been put under question, so (as mentioned) I didn't feel inclined to comment.



  • I was sarcastic about the whole "Muslims and Arabs are pretty much equatable with savage animals". Guess you're not,and in your brain anyone who's not as Islamophobic and racist as you are is terminally retarded and deserving of mockery.

    Because, of course, when a crazy white redneck rapes and murders a hitchhiker he's just some crazy guy you're not gonna identify with, but when the guy is Arab or Muslim (as if you'd know the difference), it's totally representative of all of them.


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  • I'm fine with all that.

    You still have to be terminally stupid, though, to go hitchhiking in a Muslim country if you're a woman. That's about as smart as picking up the guy in the orange jumpsuit who's covered in prison tattoos after you just saw the sign on the highway...



  • @Maciejasjmj said:

    I was sarcastic about the whole "Muslims and Arabs are pretty much equatable with savage animals". Guess you're not,and in your brain anyone who's not as Islamophobic and racist as you are is terminally retarded and deserving of mockery.

    The problem is, which group of Muslims.

    Like in the previous post, there's a significant portion of the 1 billion that would want to cause western countries to regress.

    But there's a significant portion that would live and function seemlessly in western countries. Unidentifiable in most cases.

    So, it becomes a problem when you bucket all Muslims, either to picture them as savage, or to picture them as peaceful.



  • Oh, they're not only equatable with savage animals, they're also equatable with actual rapists and murderers.

    Keep going, keep going, eventually we'll get to what you really want to say.



  • @Tsaukpaetra said:

    As far as I know, actual legitimate Darwin awards aren't so funny

    Actual legitimate Darwin awards are supposed to be funny.

    @Maciejasjmj said:

    I was sarcastic about the whole "Muslims and Arabs are pretty much equatable with savage animals". Guess you're not

    @Maciejasjmj said:

    Oh, they're not only equatable with savage animals, they're also equatable with actual rapists and murderers.

    No, that's just your straw man. Rapists and murderers are equatable with savage animals, and it's true that you'll find those in any culture, but apparently it comes as a complete surprise to liberals everywhere that it's especially easy to find them in a backward, woman-oppressing Muslim culture as this woman found out the hard (:giggity:) way.



  • @Maciejasjmj said:

    they're not only equatable with savage animals, they're also equatable with actual rapists and murderers.

    They're equatable to a rainbow, where red wants to kill you, orange through green wants to stone you if you cheat, blue through indigo wants to have Muslims under Sharia law, and purple is indistinguishable from other Westerners.



  • @xaade said:

    which group of Muslims.

    All of them! It's not like @anotherusername and such bother spending the brain cycles on thinking about whether that Muslim guy actually is crazy.

    @xaade said:

    or to picture them as peaceful.

    I'm not, there are rapists and murderers everywhere. Which is why treating people as individuals and not being prejudiced against them on the basis of their ethnicity and religion is something we've figured out - and apparently suddenly forgot because OMG LOTS OF SANDNIGGERS.


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    @anotherusername said:

    supposed to be funny.

    But this wasn't unexpected to me, so I guess it still isn't funny (to me). Meh, whatever, I don't get much humor anyways. At least :giggity: Engine has seen better success...



  • @Maciejasjmj said:

    I'm not, there are rapists and murderers everywhere.

    True, and again, that's not my concern. Our legal system can handle those, and our military system can handle the terrorists.

    @Maciejasjmj said:

    being prejudiced against them on the basis of their ethnicity and religion is something we've figured out

    I'm going to be prejudiced against a people that want to implement a violent legal system for non-Muslims in spite of our current more reasonable system that would regress our civilization.

    The only question for me is how many Muslims want to do that, and which Muslims are coming to western countries.

    And from what I've gathered from polls, it's a large enough portion to be concerned about not importing that ideology.


    Put it this way, if we inventing time travel, and there was a crisis in the past, I would also be concerned about importing from the middle ages under Catholic domination, in the millions.


    @anotherusername, this doesn't mean I condone associating all Muslims with rape.



  • @anotherusername said:

    Rapists and murderers are equatable with savage animals

    Which I'm not gonna argue, but that's not the argument you're making. The argument you're making is that that woman should have preemptively been distrustful and fearful of people on the basis that they're Muslims.

    Now tell me, would she deserve the same mockery you're dishing out if she was raped and murdered by a Muslim in the US? A Christian Arab? A white redneck? A white businessman? And at which point would you stop thinking "she was killed by a Muslim/Arab/redneck/whatever" and start thinking "she was killed by a crazy person"?



  • @xaade said:

    @anotherusername, this doesn't mean I condone associating all Muslims with rape.

    Which is fine, because I'm not doing that. I never was.



  • @anotherusername said:

    I never was.

    Except for the part where you said going among Muslims and expecting not to be raped and killed is terminal stupidity deserving of mockery and not compassion?



  • @Maciejasjmj said:

    The argument you're making is that that woman should have preemptively been distrustful and fearful of people on the basis that they're Muslims.

    Have you ever even talked to Muslims from that region of the world? There were quite a few at my university. They were open about women being property, and unescorted women were fair game for whatever because they shouldn't be alone to begin with.

    These guys generally kept themselves pretty moderate while in the U.S., but get them to talk about what they actually believe and what actually happens over there and it's pretty damn terrible stuff and they were mostly okay with it.



  • @Maciejasjmj said:

    Now tell me, would she deserve the same mockery you're dishing out if she was raped and murdered by a Muslim in the US?

    I think it would be a bit different, but yeah, trying to hitchhike across a country sounds like a terribly risky thing for anyone, but especially a female, to do.



  • @anotherusername said:

    Which is fine, because I'm not doing that. I never was.

    Then you need to demonstrate how hitchhiking through a Muslim country is more likely to end up in rape than through the back country in any other 3rd world country. In fact, it's dangerous to do that in America on the highways, as indicated by your sign.

    Now if you bring in some actual statistics that shows that Muslim countries are more dangerous than countries in equal situations, then you'd have a point. And @Maciejasjmj would have a harder time debating your point. I'm not willing to dismiss either possibility myself. But you have to show some proof to your claim.

    Otherwise, I would have phrased it like this.

    ###Stupid woman uses hitchhiking to prove Muslim countries safe, even though hitchhiking is more likely to get her raped in any country, proving nothing.



  • Soooo we're back to pure, unadulterated victim blaming. I mean, she shouldn't have hitchhiked, she shouldn't have worn that dress, she shouldn't have been so nice, where's the line?



  • @Maciejasjmj said:

    The argument you're making is that that woman should have preemptively been distrustful and fearful of people on the basis that they're Muslims.

    A lot of women are preemptively distrustful and fearful of men that they won't hitchhike even in countries where that's relatively safe. So why not in countries where it's extremely unsafe?

    @Maciejasjmj said:

    Now tell me, would she deserve the same mockery you're dishing out if she was raped and murdered by a Muslim in the US?

    If she was intentionally going out of her way to encounter Muslims because she was trying to prove that all Muslims are friendly and harmless in spite of evidence to the contrary, and one of them killed her, then yes.

    @Maciejasjmj said:

    Except for the part where you said going among Muslims and expecting not to be raped and killed is terminal stupidity deserving of mockery and not compassion?

    As I said, it only takes one. Not "all Muslims". Just one.

    It's not that all Muslims are rapists or condone it. It's that you're completely delusional if you think that all Muslims aren't, or that the risk is even remotely comparable with that in Western countries.



  • @mott555 said:

    These guys generally kept themselves pretty moderate while in the U.S., but get them to talk about what they actually believe and what actually happens over there and it's pretty damn terrible stuff and they were mostly okay with it.

    There are a few outlying countries.

    Syria is actually moderate.

    Egypt is seriously ultra conservative. I would not want to live there for any length of period of time.

    I've found that the longer a Muslim has lived in a western country, in small populations, the more progressive they become. Which is why slow immigration is not really a problem.



  • @xaade said:

    In fact, it's dangerous to do that in America on the highways, as indicated by your sign.

    Certain parts, which is why they put up the sign. If it was generally that dangerous, they wouldn't need a sign saying it was particularly dangerous there.

    @xaade said:

    Stupid woman uses hitchhiking to prove Muslim countries safe, even though hitchhiking is more likely to get her raped in any country, proving nothing.

    She didn't prove nothing. She proved that she was terminally stupid.



  • At my university most of them were from Saudi Arabia. Also a few from India/Bangladesh. I don't think I've met any Syrians or Egyptians.

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