But Lorne, you've already whored yourself out to office 2007 why not whore yourself out annually?
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Seriously, fuck everyone who uses productivity tools that require the cloud.
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"tickety boo"
EDIT: wait a minute, Lorne's British?
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"tickety boo"
EDIT: wait a minute, Lorne's British?
Shut your filthy mouth and apologize. Both for calling me British, and for thinking I'd be retarded enough to use Office 365.
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So you posted this to white-knight for some British person who had problems 8 hours ago?
Compelling.
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http://downdetector.co.uk/problems/xbox-live/archive I was going to comment that Microsoft appear to be having problems full stop, but then again every day since ever seems to be on that list
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Totally normal for MS Cloud to have problems, it's a leap year after all
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wait a minute, Lorne's British?
No, but The Register is. See, the text in that grey box comes form there, not Lorne.
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@Lorne_Kates said:
Both for calling me British, and for thinking I'd be retarded enough to use Office 365.
You use Office '97 like God and Bill Gates intended, right?
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So you posted this to white-knight for some British person who had problems 8 hours ago?
Compelling.
It's more black-knighting against The Cloud. The British can defend themselves. Or get taken over by Nazis. Whatever. I'm just exploiting their misfortune to push my agenda.
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http://downdetector.co.uk/problems/xbox-live/archive I was going to comment that Microsoft appear to be having problems full stop, but then again every day since ever seems to be on that list
Maybe Downdetector is down?
You use Office '97 like God and Bill Gates intended, right?
In all fairness, show me one person who couldn't write a doc on Office '97 because the cloud was down. ( and no, "but my Win 3.11 VM is on a remote server" doesn't count)
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@Lorne_Kates said:
I'm just exploiting their misfortune to push my agenda.
How does murdering transgender prostitutes tie in with Office 365 outages.
ARE YOU JACK THE RIPPER? (or the guy hunting him or whatever--I forgot which side of that issue you're on.)
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It was working all day in Belgium. Why did we deserve that punishment?
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How does murdering transgender prostitutes tie in with Office 365 outages.
Do you see? DO YOU SEE?
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What about an XP VM? I don't think '97 ran on 3.11.
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and using Ms cloudy shizzle. There is even a sighting of wild Ms azure consultants last week.
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As far as I can tell, Office 365 doesn't actually require constant internet access from the desktop apps; you just need to be online every 30 days to keep them activated.
Of course, OneDrive and the browser apps still require a connection to Microsoft's servers.
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As far as I can tell, Office 365 doesn't actually require constant internet access from the desktop apps
Correct.
Office Online (including Exchange Online which is probably the online part of Office 365 most companies care about) does though.
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(including Exchange Online which is the part of Office 365 most companies care about) does though.
Sure, and while email down-time is bad, it's not exactly a WTF to use a cloud email provider. Your email is going to have to come in from the internet one way or another.
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Your email is going to have to come in from the internet one way or another.
Not necessarily. If we lost connection to the Internet completely, we can still send emails internally because the internet isn't a requirement for that.
(Also we're an ISP but )
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True story. I will use Libre office (gag) before I use Office 365.
The "cloud" is not appropriate for office productivity software, or anything else stand-alone that didn't need hosting in the first place!
It is appropriate if you are trying to move a hosted web app from on-site hosting, to your own "cloud" hosting, that you then sell access to that app as a "cloud" app (SaaS). Then the user gets to use the app without having to host it or maintain it, and they get free upgrades. It is a website/app they get to use, but don't have to hire or maintain an IT staff to support.
ANYTHING ELSE THAT ISN'T IN THAT MODEL (looking at you, Adobe) IS INAPPROPRIATE TO TRY TO SHOEHORN INTO THE "CLOUD"!
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ANYTHING ELSE THAT ISN'T IN THAT MODEL (looking at you, Adobe) IS INAPPROPRIATE TO TRY TO SHOEHORN INTO THE "CLOUD"!
Data in the cloud..... good.
app in the cloud .... not good
Data only in the cloud without any local backups.
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Data only in the cloud without any local backups.
But the cloud backs up everything for me!
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and that's very helpful for when your neighbor accidentally puts a backhoe through your fiber connection and your ISP won't send a guy out to repair it till next week.
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Data only in the cloud without any local backups.
Until recently the only backups we had of our cloud CRM were manually downloaded once a week by an actual human being who saved it to his computer.
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and that's very helpful for when your neighbor accidentally puts a backhoe through your fiber connection and your ISP won't send a guy out to repair it till next week.
A business connection should have a better SLA to fix than that, even if it was caused by someone else's JCB.
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@accalia said:
and that's very helpful for when your neighbor accidentally puts a backhoe through your fiber connection and your ISP won't send a guy out to repair it till next week.
A business connection should have a better SLA to fix than that, even if it was caused by someone else's JCB.
who said anthing about it being a business line?
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who said anthing about it being a business line?
I made an assumption. Who outside of a business relies on Office 365/Online that heavily?
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@accalia said:
who said anthing about it being a business line?
I made an assumption. Who outside of a business relies on Office 365/Online that heavily?
/shrug someone who did their taxes entirely in Office 365 and today is the due date?
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Office 365 would be fine unless you needed Exchange Online. Office Online, however, not so much.
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You realize that an Office 365 subscription also gives you a license to the actual Office desktop applications, right?
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I ... did ... not ... realize that... o_O
But ... what would be the point of that? Why not just get Office [insert year here] and be done with it?
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Office 365 is cheaper.
$229.99 for only the software (1 PC), or $69.99/year for Office 365 (1 PC & 1 Mobile Device).
Wow, if you have a student ID, you get a 4 year subscription for $79.99 for 2 devices, PC or mobile. I should enroll in a school.
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Office 365 is cheaper.
For three years (at four it is ~$50 more without discounting future payments). The complaint from some about it is that they don't upgrade office every 5 years or so, so it would work out to be more expensive with the yearly fee (with a high discount rate for the future this may not happen, but it would need to be pretty high).
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Well, whatever. Either way Vaire needs to cram some factzzz in his maw before spouting out against it.
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I am stiiiiiill not using iiiiiiiiiiit
And I stiiiiiiiill don't recall ever saying if I was male or female.
But that's okay, I still love yougrumpyblakey rat ;)
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Well, at least you know that if your business partners also use Office 365, they won't be able to send email to you either, so no email is lost.
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pfft. Office 365 is nothing compared to Hangul ; the Korean word processor backed by the government. That dreadful piece of crap.
But I put up with LibreOffice/Open Office and use gmail anyway. So zero$/month.
@blakeyrat
Hey, where did the DinoNazi go?So you posted this to white-knight for some British person who had problems 8 hours ago?
Compelling.
It is great sympathy for other human beings in pain.
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So you posted this to white-knight for some British person who had problems 8 hours ago?
Better than you white knitting for Micro$oft.
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If we lost connection to the Internet completely, we can still send emails internally because the internet isn't a requirement for that.
I VPN into work from home you insensitive clod!
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I VPN into work from home you insensitive clod!
To be fair, you could do without the internet there too, but i doubt VPN over avain is a plesant experience.
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Actually, even if I were at my office, the email servers are across a VPN that runs over the interwebs. Or something. I'm not really a network guy, but they're definitely not in my building.
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Wouldn't this criticism fit way better if directed to Google Apps?
Our internet service has been having some hiccups as of late and man, my appreciation for (desktop) Office has gone up like never before.
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Data only in the cloud without any local backups.
And what if you put your data local but your backups in the cloud? Just asking for a friend./shrug someone who did their taxes entirely in Office 365 and today is the due date?
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The documents should be on your OneDrive (pro or not) and are automatically cached locally.
If not: go to the nearest wifi hotspot (any fast food joint qualifies around here) download the documents you need and be on your way. You still have your local office installation to open and edit them.what would be the point of that?
It's actually a bonus when you get a cloudy Exchange or SharePoint but MS sells it the other way around.
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ANYTHING ELSE THAT ISN'T IN THAT MODEL (looking at you, Adobe) IS INAPPROPRIATE TO TRY TO SHOEHORN INTO THE "CLOUD"!
Adobe Creative Cloud can get molested with a baseball bat with rusty screws sticking out of it.
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Better than you white knitting for Micro$oft.