Don't edit @blakeyrat's topic titles



  • If people are changing the title of threads purely out of spite, there are too many utter dickholes gaining trust level 3.

    Either TL3 should be made more difficult to obtain, it should not have the ability to edit thread titles, or it should not exist at all.


  • SockDev

    @blakeyrat said:

    If people are changing the title of threads purely out of spite

    that's an odd way to phrase that.

    are you leveling an accusation that this is happening or not?

    If you are making such an accusation, can you provide some recent examples that issustrate your point?

    out of context like this post it is is hard to put your coomment into perspective.



  • @accalia said:

    are you leveling an accusation that this is happening or not?

    It happened a half hour ago.


  • SockDev

    I noticed it happened to that Steam OS thread; someone edited in something about Linux being the best OS or something


  • I survived the hour long Uno hand

    I believe he's talking about adding the fire marker to the IRC thread. Or am I wrong?



  • I agree with Blakey. Scrolling down the list of threads trying to remember which ones you're reading is a pain in the bollox without trying to identify which ones have a new cunty name.

    @Yamikuronue said:

    I believe he's talking about adding the fire marker to the IRC thread. Or am I wrong?
    No. That would be useful so you know when to avoid going into dodge.


  • SockDev

    @blakeyrat said:

    It happened a half hour ago.

    ah, so it happened while i was in a meeting and not following the forum.

    so that answers the accusation part of it.

    now can you provide some examples? Assuming these are your threads neither I nor any other person of less than TL4 have access to your edit history to see these "spite edits"

    without examples all we have is your word that they occured.

    I mean no offense here, I merely wish for more information so i can examine the situation and arive and an informed conclusion.



  • That's the one that happened about a half an hour ago.

    It's not the first time it's happened to one of my threads, however. AccaliaRaceProUK's example about the SteamOS one was the most blatant. (But I'm not sure that change was due to spite, or due to some humorless dick thinking they were being funny. The one that happened a half an hour ago was definitely due to spite and definitely done by a dickhole.)


  • SockDev

    And it appears to have happened again to this thread


  • I survived the hour long Uno hand

    Adding the flame marker has become the forum shorthand for "This thread got nasty". For a while there, it did. I personally don't have a problem with the flame marker.

    Changing titles out of spite seems like posting nasty things out of spite or any other spiteful action: generally a shitty thing to do. Changing titles for humor purposes I don't have a problem with. We typically take a light hand with moderation unless someone gets particularly shitty, so I figure resolve this kind of thing like any other problem: flag it.


  • SockDev

    @blakeyrat said:

    Accalia's example about the SteamOS one

    ... who me?

    i'm the one asking for examples in an attempt to gain information!


  • SockDev

    He meant my example, and while I don't have proof (insufficient access), I do remember it happening



  • @Yamikuronue said:

    Adding the flame marker has become the forum shorthand for "This thread got nasty".

    Yes, I know. I still don't want it done to my threads without being asked permission first. Especially when I don't even slightly agree that the thread is a flamewar. (The IRC thread is certainly not one, in my opinion.)

    @Yamikuronue said:

    I personally don't have a problem with the flame marker.

    I don't have a problem with the marker. I have a problem with people changing my thread titles without asking me.

    @Yamikuronue said:

    Changing titles out of spite seems like posting nasty things out of spite or any other spiteful action: generally a shitty thing to do.

    No shit.

    @Yamikuronue said:

    Changing titles for humor purposes I don't have a problem with.

    Nor do I; I do mind if it's done to my thread titles without my permission, though. You seem to be missing the point of my complaint here.

    @Yamikuronue said:

    We

    Who is "we"? Are you a moderator now? When did that happen?

    @Yamikuronue said:

    so I figure resolve this kind of thing like any other problem: flag it.

    A flag won't do any good; they still have TL3 and I only have a 5-day (or whatever it is) edit window. They simply need to wait me out, then they can change it and I can't change it back. Unless you're willing to remove TL3 from these people, which I highly doubt you are.

    The problem here is really just the same gamification problem in microcosm. Gaining TL3 doesn't have anything to do with being trusted by anybody at all. Any moron can do it, in a week. Easily. That doesn't mean I trust those people to edit my thread titles, or at all really. It just means some idiot piece of software declare they were trustworthy because they clicked a certain button a certain amount of times. Fuck that noise.

    See if you're a moderator, that's fine. I trust you. I've spoken to you a lot of times and gotten to know what you're like. (Although it would have been nice if you told someone about it.) I don't trust rc4. I never will. And I don't want him to have the ability to edit my fucking thread titles, because he's a dickhole.


  • I survived the hour long Uno hand

    The title chagned from:

    Steam based their OS on Linux, so of course it's broken shit

    to:

    Steam based their OS on Linux, so of course it's better than Windows 8



  • @accalia said:

    ... who me?

    Oop, sorry. Got the wrong name.


  • I survived the hour long Uno hand

    @blakeyrat said:

    Are you a moderator now?

    Yup

    @blakeyrat said:

    When did that happen?

    Recently. I'm still learning the ropes.


  • SockDev

    @blakeyrat said:

    Any moron can do it, in a week

    takes close to two months.

    TL3 requires 50% attendance in a rolling 100 (or 101, because discourse) day window.

    TL2 can be gotten in about a week, TL3 needs close to two months minimum.



  • Well in any case, I'm not asking for the moderators to do more work, I'm asking for this shitty forum software to do less work. Specifically: it should stop trying to tell human beings who's trustworthy.


  • SockDev

    @Yamikuronue said:

    resolve this kind of thing like any other problem: flag it.

    this seems like the best course of action.

    You can either:

    • Play the game and gain the mod powers of TL3 so you can edit the title back to the way you want it

    or

    • Flag the edit and ask a mod to revert it.


  • @accalia said:

    Play the game and gain the mod powers of TL3 so you can edit the title back to the way you want it

    That's not going to happen, nor is it a solution to the problem.

    @accalia said:

    Flag the edit and ask a mod to revert it.

    That's also not a solution to the problem. I'm not going to spend 20 hours a week in Wikipedia edit wars to prevent dickholes from messing with my stuff.

    The solution is that Discourse stops giving dickholes the ability to mess with my stuff.


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