Human hive mind? That doesn't fit, unless it's segregated?



  • Game Theory: The Human Hive Mind Theory (Starcraft 2: Legacy of the Void) – 15:35
    — The Game Theorists

    One difference. I don't see evidence that the zerg question the order they get back after the calculations.However, I believe humans question the order they get back from Google and Fa.....

    HOLY SHIT....

    No they don't. The vast majority of the time we already have an idea of what new ideas we will like.

    Ok, what if, instead of individual thoughts, we are actually a collective, but a segregated collective.

    We have a hive mind, that's ordering each of our own thoughts but tailoring them to specialized segregated units, and then using thought competition to make the final selection.

    Think about it.

    Let's say there's a right wing political person and a left wing political person.

    They think they aren't being ordered, but in fact people select information based on filters that the already agree with. So we have these huge massive groups of segregated collectives, so that a large amount of ideas is collected into two or three decision paths (with fringe groups that test out new ideas until they become mainstream) and then those two or three primary set of ideas are allowed to compete for final selection.

    Because you don't want final selection to occur in theory, you want final selection to occur in practice where the results are calculated.

    In this way, we are more advanced than Zerg in that we decide to sacrifice some efficiency in selection for a more distribution of results. In other words, we don't put all our eggs in one basket.



  • Its the lizard people, man! They have tunnels everywhere!



  • I'm actually genuinely curious what other people think.



  • Other people think that Facebook is bullshit, "likes" are toxic, and that political opinions are best formed by arguing furiously with people whose positions are consistently boneheaded and/or viscerally loathsome.


  • Dupa

    @flabdablet said:

    Other peopleI think that Facebook is bullshit, "likes" are toxic, and that political opinions are best formed by arguing furiously with people whose positions are consistently boneheaded and/or viscerally loathsome.

    :fire:TEMFY



  • @xaade said:

    I'm actually genuinely curious what other people think.

    @Magus said:

    Its the lizard people, man! They have tunnels everywhere!

    Come on now. Back into the padded cells with you two. I'll have the medication upped and tighter strait jackets fitted.

    Christ only knows how you keep escaping. It's almost like the inmates are running the place.


  • sockdevs

    They're running my place?



  • :point_up: :alien::scream_cat:

    :eyes::pouting_cat::crying_cat_face:



  • I think your OP is gibberish.



  • KK, Thanks.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @xaade said:

    I'm actually genuinely curious what other people think.

    I think you should read the "Plato Cult" book I linked to earlier. If your theory is true, how exactly did you expect people to react to this post?



  • Hive mind is too strong. There are cultures. Every institution and group of people has a culture. And that's what defines a culture -- the brute fact of who participates, and what they choose to do. So yeah, you can get echo chambers where no outside opinions are even taken into account, just in virtue of the fact that nobody with different opinions belongs to the group).

    And yeah, diversity of cultures is a good thing, just like diversity of species is good in nature. Let the _______s try their radical idea, and see how it turns out. We'll (maybe) copy it if it works. And they'll copy our good ideas, if we're culturally close enough to accept them.

    I think you should read the "Plato Cult" book I linked to earlier. If your theory is true, how exactly did you expect people to react to this post?

    I'd suggest "The Society of the Spectacle"



  • @Captain said:

    We'll (maybe) copy it if it works. And they'll copy our good ideas, if we're culturally close enough to accept them.

    Appropriation thread is :arrows:


  • Impossible Mission Players - A

    Was wondering why this was in games, BC work firewall is a :bar_chart: to YouTube.

    Sure there's a hive mind, probably not called that, but it's in the same vein as "The Invisible Hand".
    All these terms though...



  • Well, my immediate thought was that.

    A real hive mind doesn't test the resulting order they get back.

    But then I realized that the vast majority of people spend little time testing the ideas critically, they simply do a blind test where it fits in within their subjective expectations. This is ironically true for most groups, even when these groups blame an "opposing" group for acting this way.

    See Obama Birthers vs. Gender Wage Gap.

    While these largegroupthinks exist and compete with each other, it could be viewed as a secondary mechanism of a hive mind that allows for segregation in order to test ideas and not put all their eggs in one basket so to speak.

    Someone might say, "but this isn't logical thinking, it's doomed to fail".
    Well, it's got us this far...

    Seriously, on a large scale, reality is really forgiving.

    But then again, this "theory" is simply reverse thinking. Starting with an assumption of hive mind, and then making it all fit. Which is why it's a "game theory" and not a serious philosophical/psychological well formed and tested theory.



  • @Captain said:

    Hive mind is too strong. There are cultures.

    So, hive mind is really just a reduction in segregation that exists in the diversity of cultures.

    If we ever get to the point where we are homogeneous / uniform in a single culture, it will be functionally indistinguishable from a hive mind?

    I've got this gut feeling that as long as you belong to what you are suggesting is a hive mind, you and those you suggest belong to it, won't be able to falsify the idea.


  • sockdevs

    All your base are belong to us. You have no chance to survive make your time.

    Your culture and technology will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.



  • @xaade said:

    I've got this gut feeling that as long as you belong to what you are suggesting is a hive mind, you and those you suggest belong to it, won't be able to falsify the idea.

    Hey, kind of like how you can't seem to prove you aren't a brain in a vat being presented a universe that makes you think this because of some kind of evil genius' obsession with trolling you!


  • Impossible Mission Players - A

    @Magus said:

    trolling you!

    Isn't it great?



  • See, I always thought hives were something you got on your ass, not necessarily in your mind. TIL.


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