The :doing_it_wrong: of the discojuice huffing dude


  • BINNED

    Look, I have this problem with run-on sentences. I'm taking my medication, but I need some understanding as well, ok? 😿


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Onyx said:

    f(n) = n Γ— (n + 1) works perfectly well for the set of examples given.

    Having found one apparent solution, I didn't bother trying to work any others out.



  • @Spanky587 said:

    The sentence is "some friend i didn't know I had".

    That is not a sentence; it is a noun phrase that acts as the subject of the sentence.

    Filed under: You're welcome.


  • BINNED

    Is there a higher level of pendanty badge @HardwareGeek still doesn't posses? If so, can we just give it to him and be done with it? He's linguisticing us to death here!


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Onyx said:

    Is there a higher level of pendanty badge @HardwareGeek still doesn't posses?

    Meh, he needs to step up his game if he wants to step up to a higher badge. Familiarity breeds contempt, etc.



  • @Onyx said:

    Is there a higher level of pendanty badge @HardwareGeek still doesn't posses?

    Not for spellar/gramming; there's only a single level of badge for that, although it can be awarded multiple times if people flag for it. There is a higher level of pendantic dickweedery badge that I do not yet have, but the system rewards quantity, not quality, and as stingy as people are with flags, even if I "step up [my] game," it will take a long time to get to the next level.


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    So can sugar alcohols, but everyone knows they can give you a lot of indigestion.



  • My experience is that a lot of people don't know that, actually.


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    True. YMMV. Doesn't change the fact that they do give you indigestion though...



  • @abarker said:

    Yes, but the auto-revoke is what causes the problems.

    So Discourse lets an automatic badge be manually awarded but then revokes it for not meeting the criteria?! 🀦



  • That's equivalent.


  • mod

    @HardwareGeek said:

    and as stingy as people are with flags, even if I "step up [my] game," it will take a long time to get to the next level.

    No kidding! I haven't received (or awarded) a pedantry badge in months!



  • @abarker said:

    he's openly admitted that he wants to change how internet forums work and make them more civilized,
    Discohorse changes how forums work. But not in a good way.

    The infini-scroll shit and all the pointless gamification crap does nothing to make things "more civilized".



  • @Spanky587 said:

    The infini-scroll shit and all the pointless gamification crap does nothing to make things "more civilized".

    The gamification in discourse is pretty reasonable. You basicaly only need to show up to get to tl3, and that is the upper limit for automatic trust.

    The lounge is good for sharing wtf that could easily identify people. Registration is a very low bar for that.



  • @HardwareGeek said:

    There is a higher level of pendantic dickweedery badge that I do not yet have

    Well, I guess I'm just gonna have to take your word for it:

    Oh, and so I tried again:

    undefined


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    Can we change :Β­( to undefined?



  • @sloosecannon said:

    Can we change :Β­( to undefined?

    This is the best idea ever!



  • @Onyx said:

    bikeshedding stuff, you're right. In the end, no one gives a fuck if a button is blue or red.

    On the other hand, I do think that circular avatars are awful, and square ones are the best.



  • @Onyx said:

    bugs in the Markdown parser,

    ITYM "Markdown in the bugs parser".


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    :whynotboth.accdb:


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @tar said:

    ITYM "Markdown in the bugs parser".

    Sung like Uhura's line in Star Trekkin': "There's Klingons off the starboard bow!"


  • β™Ώ

    @blakeyrat said:

    I guess the answer is: "it doesn't, your problem sucks, the end."

    I had to like this post because it had 9 likes and I wanted to give you a badge because your stupid post was stupid and I hope the badge notification irritates you.


  • β™Ώ

    @cregox said:

    I love the randomness of this site, and many things tickled me into posting here, regardless of the most obviously expected backlash I would and I did get.

    Everyone gets that for something at some point. It's probably not personal.

    @cregox said:

    I'll get to learn more about you and maybe try to join in, if that matters to anyone... 😜

    The more the merrier! We can also help to cure your Discourse Syndrome.


  • β™Ώ

    @loopback0 said:

    So Discourse lets an automatic badge be manually awarded but then revokes it for not meeting the criteria?!

    I think you can stop it from happening. There's a checkbox, at least:



  • [spoiler]9 = 90[/spoiler] What do I win?


  • Dupa

    @CoyneTheDup said:

    hat do I win?

    Dunno. You're a genius and can be proud? It's from OP's blogpost (nb. published via Discourse).

    Maybe you get to wear this shirt now:


  • area_deu

    Circular is Ok if they're spinning!



  • Like I'd deign to wear that icon. πŸ˜ƒ


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election Banned

    They mean f(2)=6, but, like Jeff, they are also undefined and just say 2=6 instead. So, yes, their math skills are bad.


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election Banned

    Oh, the irony.

    @boomzilla said:

    I had to like this post because it had 9 likes and I wanted to give you a badge because your stupid post was stupid and I hope the badge notification irritates you.


  • Dupa

    @CoyneTheDup said:

    Like I'd deign to wear that icon. πŸ˜ƒ

    This means you're undefined

    (Btw, the fact that when it comes do discourse on mobile, it almost works only on iOS, well… just further proves you're undefined you need the tee, you need the i's,, or else… you'll never be civilized. )



  • @cregox said:

    Now, I know nothing about you guys. So, hello! How are you?

    Hi

    @cregox said:

    You've just did there to me, what you seem to be accusing Jeff to do. Pre-judged without knowing enough.

    If someone said that McDonald's was the best burger ever... I don't think it's wrong to assume that they have some kind of a fetish and not an objective opinion.

    @cregox said:

    And boy, I'm a piece of work to digest, if you try...

    That's kinda.... the point. That's why we posted your post.

    @cregox said:

    Now, I couldn't post what I was writing due to "new user" limitations to 2 links. Let me try to hack my way out of this by editing the post...

    It's odd that you bring up... a bug? In defense of you saying Discourse is great?

    @cregox said:

    Nope, doesn't work anymore. Any other clues? I got my topic in my pastebin, in case you want to help / hear more.

    Surely you can get your point on without a link?

    @cregox said:

    I now can see how I could as well have been banned from meta as well.

    Criticism seems off topic there. Something about TOXICTM

    @cregox said:

    In fact, I don't, but I wish I did.

    And what are you defending? I'm confused here.

    @cregox said:

    Sometimes we do things wrongly unintentionally and it's important to hear the feedback.

    If that feedback is being banned, we've heard already.

    @cregox said:

    And sure enough, it was deleted, right? Tell me about that feeling! 😜

    I feel like that awkward sales pitch where at some point you realized, you have no clue what's being sold to you here.

    What the hell is happening here?

    @cregox said:

    In the past, I sure have noticed a few times of how Jeff can be considered an ass and, well, truth is if you want to make a stance you can never please everyone.

    That's not making a stance....

    "We're your family now." is not making a stance....

    It's cult delusional....

    I'm so confused!?!?!

    It will not only become the wordpress of forums, it will probably become the google of talking. It could even eventually resolve what's broken about email or messaging, although their small team would never claim this. Okay, maybe I'm overstating it... But it is this awesome!

    Yeah... it's email software.... um.... look....

    OMG you're using it for blog site?

    Seriously, undefined are you smoking?



  • Don't take me the wrong way. You seem level headed, but I'm just satirical like this. You poked my satire bone....

    To put it in perspective, I'm the dude that elected himself mayor on the first day of the current Mafia game we have going here....

    @cregox said:

    I don't know.

    That's not even counting that we've already pointed out some forum software that's coming down the pipe that has already done what Discourse tried to do, but better.

    Even their fake scrollbar is vertical..... spoooossssshhhhhh MIND BLOWN

    Please tell me the one time you've clicked the green.... no wait, lightish blue, bar and typed a number and clicked go..... because post numbers are arbitrary... and there to tell you when you scrolled down instead of up.

    The posts don't even have their number next to them.... you have to gauge by the left number that arbitrarily changes as you scroll.

    I think post 116 puts it best.

    Please click in the box, type 116, and click go, because I don't know how to quote posts.

    (but don't tap the scroll bar up then down, or it magically changes to 118) DiscrolledTM


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election Banned

    Me neither :'(

    And I'd guesstimate that at least a few hundred of my posts have been focused on pedantic dickweedery in regards to the proper usage of terms like "appropriation", "-phobia", "discrimination", "gender", etc.



  • @Onyx said:

    liguisticing

    Trying to kill us through creative use of a privet? πŸ’€ πŸƒ πŸ‘£



  • @Fox said:

    And I'd guesstimate that at least a few hundred of my posts have been focused on pedantic dickweederycuckooery in regards to the proper usage of terms like "appropriation", "-phobia", "discrimination", "gender", etc.

    FTFY. 🐟


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    So....Did we scare @cregox away? I am still waiting for some interesting justification of Jeffs behaviour and Discourse and all that πŸ˜ƒ
    Or maybe we convinced him that Discourse and it's developers might not be changing the world?

    What I am trying to say is: this topic needs a thrilling conclusion and won't be the one giving one here.

    Filed Under: Come on, @cregox!



  • He's probably off spreading the "good word" of Discourse like a good disciple of TCotCDCK.



  • @xaade said:

    I'm confused here.

    I refer you to the topic title which (at the moment) contains the phrase incoherent ramblings.

    Filed under: Some people think you're always confused, but that's a different flamewar.



  • @xaade said:

    That's kinda.... the point. That's why we posted your post.

    What you mean?

    @xaade said:

    Surely you can get your point on without a link?

    I often can't do it even with a link! ;P

    And I'm not defending anything, I was just giving my first impressions. A tad randomly.

    The feedback wasn't "being banned", I wasn't implying anything in specific there. Way more often than not, when I want to imply something in that sense I will just say it instead.

    Got the satire dude, don't worry. I won't get flamed / trolled that easily. And even if I do, I won't care. How many people do you know would have come here and done what I've done?

    What I still don't know because, well, I still haven't done my homework, is who are tdwtf, who got banned and precisely why. From my point of view, I still think Jeff had some good reasoning...

    Also from my point of view, I don't give a fuck. If he bans me like you say he did to you, without talking, without anything, just because I did a few Pull Requests they didn't like and pushed 1 button, I will migrate everything over to something else (probably Flarum at this point) and he will win an enemy.

    I think I'm in a different position, but I know that my opinion for him, or most of anyone, matters almost nothing. I'm nobody (financially). So, I sure can see it happening... ✈



  • The most well written summary of the discocalypse I could find was this anonymous slashdot post:

    Actually, please allow me to post the full story here since I suppose most slashdot users don't know about it.

    Once upon a time there was a website called The Daily WTF [thedailywtf.com], it was pretty popular. And they needed to replace their old forum with a newer one, so the owner of the website chose Discourse, because apparently he was friends with Jeff Atwood.

    Now, the users in that forum tend to troll each other a lot, and they love to find bugs in crappy software (it's the whole reason for the website). They found a severe XSS vulnerability within 24 hours, and a boatload of bugs shortly after (did you know Discourse has no QA testing?). People weren't happy with the "infiniscroll", the general website slowness, the inconsistent DiscoMardownBBcdeHTML syntax, etc. They started to complain.

    The Discourse team came to the forum to answer questions and monitor the "meta/bugs" category (which was collecting several bugs per day). They had some frictions with the community since Jeff Atwood's idea of "civilized discussion" is clearly different than TDWTF's (plus some members in particular love to post inflamatory comments). This went on for some time, then they left.

    But the forum was still slow and crashed every other day, and people still wanted to report bugs, so they went to meta.discourse.org, the official forum and bug tracker (Bugzilla, Jira? nope, Discourse). But as I said, Jeff has his own ideas of civilized discourse, which include things like silently deleting your posts for no clear reason, so people were still unhappy. Some TDWTF forum members decided to troll him a bit, doing things like everyone using the same avatar, but nothing particularly bad (IMO). This again went on for some time.

    Then disaster happened: the admin of TDWTF forums went to meta.discourse to report that two buttons were in different order in the mobile and desktop views, but he made the mistake of illustrating the desktop view with a mobile screenshot (browser set to desktop mode). Jeff replied "not a bug, desktop view on mobile is not supported". The first admin replied that this had nothing to do with the bug, you can easily reproduce it in a desktop browser. ...and in response, Jeff banned every member of TDWTF, with the only messages "sorry, you are no longer welcome here", and another Discourse developer self-banned from TDWTF with the message "Time for you to migrate off Discourse".



  • Well, there you go. I can't blame him for that. And I can't blame you for doing what you did.

    That's a hard one.

    In one side we have Jeff, who likes restrictive rules and getting things done. I obviously disagree with a lot of that, but I appreciate all the practical job done this way.

    And in our side, we got anarchy. Which is the way to go, ffs... But you need to do it with transparency. Which can't be done if you want to troll people. And will, of course, crash big time against restrictive rules.

    I wonder what Penn would have done... Hmm... Yeah, he would have trolled Jeff. But in his face, not hidden. And only once, very quickly and well done. Then walk away.

    The Epic F-Bomb Saga - Uncut! - Penn Point – 16:02
    — pennpoint

    In any scenario, I suppose that was bound to happen sooner or later. Oh well. You got me.

    I'll have to uninstall discourse. Give me some time. πŸ˜‰

    By the way, why haven't you migrated yet? Or why are there so many bugs here?

    Maybe a better plan would be forking discourse, and making it better. πŸ™‚ is it possible?


  • BINNED

    @cregox said:

    By the way, why haven't you migrated yet?

    Have you seen the Discourse database? The way it handles stuff? Writing a proper migration script is hard as hell. And we really only have one member who understands this Ruby shit enough to be actively working on it right now (thank you, by the way, @ben_lubar, for your efforts).

    @cregox said:

    Or why are there so many bugs here?

    Maybe a better plan would be forking discourse, and making it better. πŸ˜„ is it possible?

    And maintain it ourselves? As a side job, after spending the whole day programming anyway? Yeah, maybe, if it weren't such a damned mess.

    Also, anyone who actually likes Ruby enough to learn it and is an active and trusted member of this forum, please raise your hand.

    No, I said raise, not release crickets from it!



  • @Onyx said:

    Also, anyone who actually likes Ruby enough to learn it and is an active and trusted member of this forum, please raise your hand.

    I don't like ruby, and not a 'trusted' member....yet.... but I have done some ruby work (training + a couple months) back in the day...

    So, half hearted, "why the fuck am i doing this" hand raise here!



  • @cregox said:

    Maybe a better plan would be forking discourse, and making it better. πŸ˜„ is it possible?

    The relation between the users of this forum and Discourse is beyond repair.

    https://what.thedailywtf.com/t/fork-discourse/51163/



  • @Onyx said:

    Also, anyone who actually likes Ruby enough to learn it and is an active and trusted member of this forum, please raise your hand.

    No, I said raise, not release crickets from it!

    Oh, oh, oh, here, pick me! Man, I've been dying to find such a gap to fill in!! 😊

    But can we make a deal? If I do it, you'll look at basiux.org and contribute in any way you can, if you agree with the cause. πŸ˜„



  • @fbmac said:

    @cregox said:
    Maybe a better plan would be forking discourse, and making it better. πŸ˜„ is it possible?

    The relation between the users of this forum and Discourse is beyond repair.

    https://what.thedailywtf.com/t/fork-discourse/51163/

    I think this fell at the first hurdle to be honest. I vaguely remember something about renaming it intercourse and once that was shot down things went rapidly downhill.

    *Warming Part or all of the previous sentence might be a result of the author's shoulder aliens.



  • @Onyx said:

    And maintain it ourselves? As a side job, after spending the whole day programming anyway? Yeah, maybe, if it weren't such a damned mess.

    Is it really so bad, though? I hear on that slashdot post they have no QA... But not even TDD? Nope, I never looked at their code, other than a few one liners commits, which looked very well done. I was also often with a job or work (different things) and never really bothered digging deep. After all, I was high! πŸ˜‰

    Plus, I'm not that expert programmer. I'm 15 years progammer*, also different thing. Learned about BDD this year, used it only once and by myself. Still trying to figure out how to set up a tutum dev env... And so on. But I think I can handle it, if it's not really that bad as you say.

    @fbmac said:

    The relation between the users of this forum and Discourse is beyond repair.

    I meant forking it. And fuck discourse, make a new one.

    @DogsB said:

    I think this fell at the first hurdle to be honest. I vaguely remember something about renaming it intercourse and once that was shot down things went rapidly downhill.

    *Warming Part or all of the previous sentence might be a result of the author's shoulder aliens.

    No clue what you just said. Could you elaborate more, please? 😒



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  • Dupa

    @cregox said:

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    Hey, someone's @fbmac'd @fbmac!


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