Preload Fallout 4.... or not



  • Fallout 4 let you preload on steam.... except it didn't.

    Soon as you press play button that unlocked 15 mins ago.... you have to download a 500 mb patch. Couldn't preload the patch...

    Don't get me wrong. I'm no so impatient as for it to matter whether it's now or tomorrow night. It's just not the best first impression to what I expect will be a pretty buggy game, if I go by previous Bethesda titles.



  • I'm guessing you've never preloaded a game before on Steam EVER.

    Because patch aside, this is by far the QUICKEST the "unlocking" process has taken place. EVER. IN STEAM HISTORY.



  • I suppose.

    But that's only because we've taken a few leaps backwards from just having the disc on store shelves at midnight.


    Then again, I don't know what's going to happen 30 mins from now when the download finishes.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    EVEN.

    Do you play that game "Evenquest"?



  • @xaade said:

    Then again, I don't know what's going to happen 30 mins from now when the download finishes.

    You'll call up your ISP and order a faster plan?



  • 50 Mbits is the fastest they offer.



  • @xaade said:

    unlocked 15 mins ago

    @xaade said:

    500 mb

    @xaade said:

    30 mins from now when the download finishes

    @blakeyrat said:

    You'll call up your ISP and order a faster plan?

    Preferably one that isn't literally half the speed @ben_lubar gets?



  • Well, it would help if they didn't have to repair the cables from all the bad city planners and such.

    But without competition, I doubt they're going to lay new lines any time soon.





  • @xaade said:

    But that's only because we've taken a few leaps backwards from just having the disc on store shelves at midnight.

    Which also required the 500MB patch. After installing from disc.



  • @xaade said:

    to what I expect will be a pretty buggy game, if I go by previous Bethesda titles

    Yet you still bought it.

    SHAME.


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    @loopback0 said:

    Which also required the 500MB patch. After installing from disc.

    You couldn't download 500MB back then. You'd just play the buggy game



  • @Jaloopa said:

    You couldn't download 500MB back then. You'd just play the buggy game

    True. I more meant compared to going to a store and buying Fallout 4.


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    I think these days the "buy from a shop" method involves buying a box with a Steam key, entering it into Steam, downloading the game then downloading the patch



  • @Jaloopa said:

    I think these days the "buy from a shop" method involves buying a box with a Steam key, entering it into Steam, downloading the game then downloading the patch

    Really? I thought the whole point was you got a DVD with the game (minus updates) on it so if you had a mega shit Internet connection you didn't have to sit and wait a week to download 23GB from Steam? And still got a Steam key or something.
    Like how Half-Life 2 handled it like 11 years ago.


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    I haven't bought a physical PC game in years so I don't really know. I'm sure I heard something like that though, at least for some games.



  • Actually it's a combo...

    Amazon ship physical media, at least:

    However, this review suggests it only contains like 5GB of the 23GB needed :laughing:

    I bought the disk version as my internet is terrible. Bethesda announced a few months ago that even with the disk version, you would also have to download part of the game from Steam. However, what they did not say, is how much. Common sense dictates that most of the game would be on the disk, with a little left over to download online, but this is not the case. The disk contains 5GB out of 24GB - about 1/5th of the overall game size, on one DVD. It is going to take me another 5 days to actually play the game.
    Downloading part of the game from Steam is not an issue, it has been common for many years now. However Amazon, and Bethesda, should have made clear that only 1/5th of the game is actually on the disk. While waiting for my pre-order to come, I could have began downloading the game from steam. 1/5th of a game is not an acceptable size to place on a disk, especially when many other games contain multiple disks (for example Far Cry 4, which has 4).

    That's.... stupid.



  • Well, my computer is old enough that I just have to settle for 720p.

    There's literally nothing else to do.

    Oh well, at least I can play it.



  • It's the same for Steam.

    You preload the first 5 GB, and the game passively downloads the rest, just like some of the more recent MMOs do (WoW, CO, ESO).

    Sure, in those MMOs you have to front download a patch, but what you probably haven't noticed is that it updates a lot of objects in realtime.

    So basically, all you got is the Steam preload, without the Steam interaction.



  • @xaade said:

    It's the same for Steam.

    You preload the first 5 GB

    Mine preloaded the full 23GB, except for the 500MB patch which it did as it unpacked the lot.



  • Maybe mine did as well.

    I didn't really pay attention, I just went by what the article said would happen.



  • Upon loading this thread:



  • The icon was preloaded by Steam!



  • Anyway, SC2 did it too, but with a 5.2gb patch. It finished almost exactly at 9pm, though, which is when they accepted logins.



  • @xaade said:

    will be a pretty buggy game

    My brother started playing it just after midnight and one of the first NPCs had a disco-skirt that mostly revealed a lot of crotch when it wasn't freaking out. GG Bethesda.

    At least no revolving heads so far though so it's an improvement on FO3 at launch:

    Fallout Spinning Head Glitch – [00:05..02:19] 02:19
    — rade xito



  • @Cursorkeys said:

    My brother started playing it just after midnight and one of the first NPCs had a disco-skirt that mostly revealed a lot of crotch when it wasn't freaking out. GG Bethesda.

    I didn't get that... feel like I'm missing out :laughing:



  • @Jaloopa said:

    I think these days the "buy from a shop" method involves buying a box with a Steam key, entering it into Steam, downloading the game then downloading the patch

    Not only that, but that attitude has migrated to Xbox One also. (And I think some PS4 games have been guilty of that.)


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    @xaade said:

    50 Mbits is the fastest they offer.

    I wish we had speeds like that in my office. I just verified that we currently have speeds of 7.5 Mbps, and that's at our best equipped location (one office is at 2 Mbps). But – according to the rumors – we should be getting up to 50 Mbps next year!


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    @loopback0 said:

    That's.... stupid.

    No, what's stupid is expecting a single single-layer DVD to contain much more than 5 GB of data.


    Filed under: Because shipping multiple DVDs and asking the player to insert them when necessary is so last year ago...



  • @Tsaukpaetra said:

    No, what's stupid is expecting a single single-layer DVD to contain much more than 5 GB of data.

    I didn't expect that, I expected multiple DVDs to contain more than 5GB of data.


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    @loopback0 said:

    The disk

    Reviewer implied that there was only one disc.


    Filed under: Totally forgot the optical media was "disc" while magnetic storage was "disk"...



  • Upon trying to like your post:

    Is Discourse secretly made by Bethesda?



  • @Tsaukpaetra said:

    Reviewer implied that there was only one disc.

    So maybe that's part of the problem? Maybe there should be multiple discs?


  • Impossible Mission Players - A

    @Deadfast said:

    should be
    AHA! We're being jipped! Paid for multi-disk set: Got a single disk!

    Call the authorities! We've got a doozy here!



  • @Deadfast said:

    Is Discourse secretly made by Bethesda?

    Ok your joke is dumb and here is why:

    1. Most Bethesda games are fine; only Gamebryo games ship buggy. (Dishonored: not Gamebryo, not buggy. Skyrim: Gamebryo, buggy.)
    2. Even then they're usually pretty damned solid on consoles, it's just the Windows version with the problems. And usually because the Windows version has extra stuffs (modding support, higher res graphics), but is simultaneously less-QAed (fewer sales)
    3. I have to wake up at 6:00 AM but I'm writing this at 11:00 PM due to insomnia
    4. Since I can't sleep anyway I'm snacking on Cinnamon Life cereal. It's pretty good.

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    @Tsaukpaetra said:

    Filed under: Totally forgot the optical media was "disc" while magnetic storage was "disk"...

    As long as you have that straightened out in your head now...

    @Tsaukpaetra said:

    AHA! We're being jipped! Paid for multi-disk set: Got a single disk!

    :question:



  • @Tsaukpaetra said:

    Reviewer implied that there was only one disc.

    I meant that before I found out otherwise, I'd expected the physical copy to contain multiple discs with all the game files.
    I obviously stopped expecting that to be true when I read it wasn't true.



  • @Tsaukpaetra said:

    No, what's stupid is expecting a single single-layer DVD to contain much more than 5 GB of data.

    I haven't yet seen a physical copy of a game on sale on BluRay, I would have thought any PC gaming rig these days is going to have a BluRay drive. You can fit 25GB on a single-layer one.

    Especially Fallout 4 which is an extremely demanding game on the hardware so you'd except a newish build.



  • @Cursorkeys said:

    I would have thought any PC gaming rig these days is going to have a BluRay drive.

    Mine doesn't even have an optical drive.



  • @loopback0 said:

    Mine doesn't even have an optical drive.

    Interesting, PXE boot for OS install?



  • @Cursorkeys said:

    Interesting, PXE boot for OS install?

    Yeah, although I've got a USB drive somewhere with the Windows installer on it too.


  • Impossible Mission - B

    I feel like I have to make a post in this thread...



  • @Cursorkeys said:

    I would have thought any PC gaming rig these days is going to have a BluRay drive.

    I would think most gaming rigs nowadays wouldn't have any kind of optical drive at all.

    I only bothered to put one in because I have a pretty extensive DVD collection I don't want to just throw away. I use it once in a blue moon. Now that I think about it, I think I've used it once, ever.


  • Impossible Mission Players - A

    Yeah! Everyone knows you can't ship anything on a single disk anymore!



  • :wtf: is that legit?



  • @PleegWat said:

    is that legit?

    Judging by the other related photos, somehow I doubt it...


  • Impossible Mission Players - A

    Yes. You can even technically make them yourself using Split WIMs, but I wouldn't recommend it. :P :P :stuck_out_tongue:



  • @blakeyrat said:

    1) Most Bethesda games are fine; only Gamebryo games ship buggy. (Dishonored: not Gamebryo, not buggy. Skyrim: Gamebryo, buggy.)

    Dishonored wasn't made by Bethesda, it was published by Bethesda. So sorry, you're wrong. Incidentally all of the modern games made by Bethesda run on Gamebryo, ergo as you said yourself, all games made by Bethesda are buggy. Thanks for playing.

    @blakeyrat said:

    2) Even then they're usually pretty damned solid on consoles, it's just the Windows version with the problems. And usually because the Windows version has extra stuffs (modding support, higher res graphics), but is simultaneously less-QAed (fewer sales)

    Yeah, except on the PS3 where, if your save gets too big, shit will break. But I know, PS3 isn't a real console, right?


  • :belt_onion:

    @Deadfast said:

    Dishonored wasn't made by Bethesda, it was published by Bethesda. So sorry, you're wrong. Incidentally nearly all of the games made by Bethesda run on Gamebryo, ergo nearly all games made by Bethesda are buggy. Thanks for playing.

    Sidenote: Dishonored featured an unskippable intro video of the Bethesda logo which even kept the game from loading. No idea how common they are today but in this case I'm blaming Bethesda for making a good game worse.



  • That was Sony's own fault for trying to do that stupid-ass Cell chip thing that nobody could fucking work with.


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