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  • I just discovered a discofeature that is probably rather ancient, but annoys me: when I log out in one tab, I get logged out simultaneously on all tabs on all browsers on all OSes. Mitigated by the fact that I have to go to my profile to log out.

    At least this is consistent with replies under construction turning up in every what.thedailywtf.com tab everywhere I log in. (BTW where are the "add abbr tag" and "add [spoiler] tag" buttons in the "Create a new topic" window? Lack of "del/ins" correction I do understand, workaround is obvious, but nevertheless.)


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    It's a feature. @PJH asked if we wanted it disabled. Nobody cared.

    Filed Under: But it's not really a bug since it's in the forum-options


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    @PWolff said:

    BTW where are the "add abbr tag" and "add [spoiler] tag" buttons in the "Create a new topic" window? Lack of "del/ins" correction I do understand, workaround is obvious, but nevertheless.

    NOREPRO. Which browser? Maybe we hit an edge case somewhere? Or Discourse buggered it up, we added those buttons the "proper" Discoway, as opposed to the raw which is half "proper", half ugly hacks.

    Also, I found a new discofeature: if you start creating a new topic and then want to convert that to an answer, it won't let you. No crossposting from that dialog for you! Come back next Discoursistency!



  • Okay. Works as designed.

    So, an option whether to bind this to the browser instance or not would be a nice-to-have to me (and maybe two or three others). And something I'm not used to from about all other forums I attend. Nothing more

    Topic can be closed, I think. Or even deleted.


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    @PWolff said:

    Topic can be closed, I think. Or even deleted.

    Where do you think you are? On meta.d?


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    Well, according to meta.d logging out is a POWER USER FEATURE anyway. Nobody would ever do that hence you have to go to your user-page to actually log out.

    Filed Under: Also: if you log out you will get stupid toasters asking you to sign up!



  • @Onyx said:

    Which browser?

    Iceweasel (a Firefox fork) 32.0.x on Debian. - Firefox on Windows workds fine, as does Chromium on Debian.

    Tested it again: Works fine on Iceweasel now. Must have to do something with the log off stuff.



  • So there are no public computers in Jeffland?

    (So I was actually right with my sarcastically meant remark I was Doing It Wrong (meant was wanting to log off))

    Toasters on logout: can't reproduce.



  • @Onyx said:

    Where do you think you are? On meta.d?

    Well, what if the thread starter asks themselves for that?


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    @PWolff said:

    So there are no public computers in Jeffland?

    I honestly don't want to know what is or isn't in Jeffland....

    @PWolff said:

    (So I was actually right with my sarcastically meant remark I was Doing It Wrong (meant was wanting to log off))

    I honestly assumed you already knew because of that precise remark...

    @PWolff said:

    Well, what if the thread starter asks themselves for that?

    It's not a matter of "cannot be done".... even though you CANNOT delete stuff, afaik. admins can only move it into a category that cannot be seen.... it's more of a "why would you even do that?" (unless you are on meta.d, as @Onyx has pointed out)

    Filed Under: I might be wrong with the admin deletion thing... @boomzilla ?


  • :belt_onion:

    I had not noticed that there was no log-out, since I joined. But yes this is a design-:wtf: I remember when Google kind of hid the log-out and I was enraged for the extra clicks (creepy clingy ad-friendly). Now if logging out, logs one out of all the devices that would be a :wtf::wtf: to the point of revenge-y clingy.

    I hope Google would not get that idea;

    "if you want to be connected to your account to sync your contacts, you must be logged in all of your devices all the time."


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    As far as I remember, people complained a lot and @cpradio made a plugin for an easily accessible logout button in the menu. If memory serves me right, it's now an option in the Forum-settings. So you can probably also yell at @boomzilla or @PJH to include the link in the menu again.

    Filed Under: just tell them to do their job :trollface:


  • :belt_onion:

    Hehe, I do not care really for TDWTF having no log out.

    What? am I insane to log out of here?



  • @Kuro said:

    As far as I remember, people complained a lot and @cpradio made a plugin for an easily accessible logout button in the menu. If memory serves me right, it's now an option in the Forum-settings. So you can probably also yell at @boomzilla or @PJH to include the link in the menu again.

    You are 100% correct. The setting is show logout in header



  • @Kuro said:

    Nobody cared.

    Some people voted for it to be disabled.


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    @dse said:

    What? am I insane to log out of here?

    Once you logged in you're already past the point where you should ask that.



  • @Kuro said:

    Filed Under: I might be wrong with the admin deletion thing... @boomzilla ?

    Correct. Normal deleted things just get hidden. Mods can usually see that stuff, though some is restricted to just admins. We do have some categories that only people with certain permissions can access. It's useful for testing and I have moved one topic there in the past.

    If you want to really delete, then you have to go into the DB directly, AFAIK. I know that @PJH has at least once deleted an uploaded picture that leaked some personal info. That required shell access.



  • @Kuro said:

    If memory serves me right, it's now an option in the Forum-settings. So you can probably also yell at @boomzilla or @PJH to include the link in the menu again.

    Ah, yes, you're correct. Stuff appears there from time to time and you just have to remember to go look. There's a lot of stuff in there so it's not always easy to find. I've re-added it. Probably requires a refresh, YMMV, HTH, etc.



  • @loopback0 said:

    @Kuro said:
    Nobody cared.

    Some people voted for it to be disabled.

    If you want a change, I suggest a (local) meta topic where we can decide on that, specifically. It strikes me as a potential security thing that someone may have gotten used to, so I don't want to just change it willy nilly.


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    no, didn't help. The only thing I got was a ログアウト-button

    Filed Under: :trollface:
    Also Filed Under: Japanese is a :barrier: to logging out!





  • @Kuro said:

    no, didn't help. The only thing I got was a ログアウト-button

    Filed Under: :trollface:
    Also Filed Under: Japanese is a :barrier: to logging out!

    I can take care of that for you. I can even make it permanent!


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    ADMIN ABUSE!

    Wait, you can permanently change my settings to a sensible language or you can permanently log me out?

    Filed Under: Will you do so by impersonating me for good measure?



  • I'm 95% certain I voted, "Meh," which is probably why I forgot about it.


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    Holy shit, how did you find that one. I spend ~15 minutes searching for it and eventually gave up because I hate Disco-Search!

    Filed Under: You must be a genius!



  • Nah, I knew @PJH started it and checked his profile page.


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    So did I... and then I got bored and tried to search in his profile... and then I gave up because Discourse!

    Filed Under: I don't regret giving up, btw!



  • Okay, I didn't see this one coming... now the logout menu option is back by default



  • So did they remove a setting which broke stuff for all, or is that user doing things Differently™?



  • They did remove the setting, but that user was hard-coding settings in their app.yml via a hook, not sure why, maybe he does multi-site and wanted it to be the default for all sites?

    So yes, the setting was removed, and it is encouraged to use CSS to hide it (if you wish), but that CSS does not seem to be included in core by default (based on the commit in the linked post).



  • @cpradio said:

    but that user was hard-coding settings in their app.yml via a hook

    That's what I thought, but not familiar enough with where Dischorse stores stuff to be sure that was Different™.

    @cpradio said:

    and it is encouraged to use CSS to hide it (if you wish), but that CSS does not seem to be included in core by default (based on the commit in the linked post).

    Well that's something at least. I wonder how many complaints they got about the vanishing Log Out button before giving in and putting it back by default :laughing:


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    @loopback0 said:

    vanishing Log Out button

    Well, it's more of a link now ...


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    @aliceif said:

    Well, it's more of a link now ...

    A proper link? One that takes you to /logout?

    <a id="ember13229" class="ember-view d-link logout" title="Log Out" aria-title="Log Out" href="">
    

    ... oh.



  • @loopback0 said:

    I wonder how many complaints they got about the vanishing Log Out button before giving in and putting it back by default

    With the update to the "Stable" channel, I'm sure they got a lot of grief over people who got mugged by all the bikeshedding. It's bad enough to see the changes from beta to beta, but these "minor" point releases have massive UI differences.



  • @boomzilla said:

    "minor" point releases

    I don't think they have a concept of a major release. Just the "we'll break your shit every month or so, but won't mark it as major because it's so buggy it wouldn't even be funny like marking it 'stable'" minor ones.



  • @Maciejasjmj said:

    I don't think they have a concept of a major release.

    Definitely seems arbitrary. I mean, I guess they have some goals that could conceivably be called a roadmap going into it.

    @Maciejasjmj said:

    Just the "we'll break your shit every month or so, but won't mark it as major because it's so buggy it wouldn't even be funny like marking it 'stable'" minor ones.

    They certainly didn't stop at the last beta for very long. And it's really an abuse of the term "beta" since they add new features in every one. But at least when we were keeping up with the betas and reporting bugs the worst of the worst got some attention before the next release. It at least kept them honest in that while they might not want to fix it all, they knew stuff was broken.



  • @boomzilla said:

    an abuse of the term "beta"

    Well, not as bad as the abuse of the term "stable"...



  • @boomzilla said:

    the worst of the worst got some attention

    And now @miketheliar doesn't get nearly the attention he deserves.


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