Destiny (Achievement): Kill It with Fire



  • Apparently Destiny feels the same way [at worst a plurality of us] feel about Discourse.


    Filed Under: Communism



  • watchoo talkin bout willis



  • Welp:

    1. no kan haz fourem fore Destiny [aka dah game]
    1. no catz cair aboute achevementz oteside teh foreumz
    1. ...
    1. FRIST
    1. I received the achievement for "Kill It with Fire"... and given our hope to kill Jeff, if not just Discourse, with fire. I felt it was an apropos experience.
    1. ...
    1. oh; PROFIT!



  • @rad131304 said:

    hope to kill Jeff

    I am guessing you are probably just trolling, but I want to make it clear that I do not harbour this sentiment.



  • OMG, yes, 1000% troll.

    I do not desire the death of anyone from meta.d; even Jeff - previously called @CodingHorror; mocked with @CodingHorrorBot; now calling himself @end (as if he was punctuating it [I assume], but it comes off like he's "that" position from which the worst [human excrement] emerges).

    Given my user's schizophrenic personality here, I could see how someone might be concerned that my previous statement was a threat. I must, unequivocally, state that it was not.

    P.S. HI NSA!


  • 🔀

    @‍rad131304 Is Doing It Wrong™

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  • what



  • The only result I can find is this:

    Defeat 3 Burning Souls during the High Prophet Barim encounter in Lost City of the Tol'vir on Heroic Difficulty.


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    I think someone's topped the @xaade scale. We may have problems.



  • Nah, he just topped the publicly exposed portion of my scale.

    It's an exercise left to the user as to which asylum I am posting from, and how I'm doing that with a straight jacket on.



  • @xaade said:

    Nah, he just topped the publicly exposed portion of my scale.

    It's an exercise left to the user as to which asylum I am posting from, and how I'm doing that with a straight jacket on.

    1. Yes
    2. My startup is going under in a very bad way (i.e. might be homeless by the end of the month kind of bad); lots of stress + drinking = bad night.


  • How can it be fixed?



  • Bankruptcy, mostly. The company will live, but many, many, many changes will abound. I made a lot of mistakes; I'm just hoping the people who sunk a lot of money into this will forgive me for how this is about to go (mostly family; I like not being hated at XMAS).


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @rad131304 said:

    My startup is going under in a very bad way (i.e. might be homeless by the end of the month kind of bad); lots of stress + drinking = bad night.

    Many sympathies. Are you letting those who invested know that things are going badly wrong so it won't be a bad shock to them? That will at least help you stay on speaking terms with them (which is useful given that they're family) while you try to keep the bankruptcy orderly.



  • Oof that sucks.

    Getting involved in a business venture with family is a bad idea 99% of the time. Unless you're like the Wachoskis or something.



  • @dkf said:

    Many sympathies. Are you letting those who invested know that things are going badly wrong so it won't be a bad shock to them? That will at least help you stay on speaking terms with them (which is useful given that they're family) while you try to keep the bankruptcy orderly.

    I am; I'm just not doing well with the situation.

    Even then, there were many conversations to the effect of: "so if you give us this money, you should assume you'll never get it back".



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Oof that sucks.

    Getting involved in a business venture with family is a bad idea 99% of the time. Unless you're like the Wachoskis or something.

    Thankfully, I'm not working with fam; just took their money after telling them how risky it was before I took it.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Getting involved in a business venture with family is a bad idea 99% of the time.

    QFT. My ex kept dragging me into her business ideas.

    One time she made me a partner without telling me ahead of time. That one actually made a profit — a whopping $125 for our first year of business. We went to get our taxes done, and the tax guy said, "Partnership. Ooh, bad idea. There are like 7000 extra tax forms you need to file, and it will cost you way more than the money you made from the business. My advice — report the $125 as miscellaneous income, stop doing business, and pretend the whole thing never happened."

    Mostly though, I was just unpaid IT/web design labor for the client from hell, who never made anything from any of her other businesses. ... That may not quite be true; I think another one of them may have been modestly successful, but it was "too much work," and always on weekends when she wanted to spend time with family.



  • There's no work for sex going on here.


  • Grade A Premium Asshole

    @rad131304 said:

    My startup is going under in a very bad way (i.e. might be homeless by the end of the month kind of bad); lots of stress + drinking = bad night.

    Oh man. Keep your head up. We all fail at one point or another. What matters is what you do after that. Take this as a learning experience and don't make the same mistakes next time. Things can always be better, things can always be worse.

    Also, try not to drink too much. I know the inclination and predisposition to drink, so I won't tell you to not drink at all. But, you will not find the answers to your problems at the bottom of a bottle. I know, I have checked most of them. All I found was a fucking headache and sloth, and none of those help when you are where you are now.

    @rad131304 said:

    Bankruptcy, mostly.

    Bankruptcy is not the end of the world, it just seems like it. If you don't mind me asking, how much are you currently upside down on the business by? ("None of your fucking business" is a perfectly acceptable and expected answer) You may be able to get around bankruptcy. It will be a matter of which route will suck less.

    Is the debt held by the company? Or did you personally sign on it? If so, what did you collateralize it with?

    @rad131304 said:

    The company will live, but many, many, many changes will abound.

    How so?

    @rad131304 said:

    I made a lot of mistakes

    We all have. Learn from them for next time. Have you ever read "The Millionaire Mind" by Thomas J. Stanley? He did a case study of millionaires and decamillionaires and on average they all went bust 3 times before hitting it big. You just got one of them out of the way on your road to being an "average millionaire". :smile:

    @rad131304 said:

    I'm just hoping the people who sunk a lot of money into this will forgive me for how this is about to go (mostly family; I like not being hated at XMAS).

    Let me tell you a little story: Several years ago a friend of mine did a startup. He chose us to be his IT support and help with application development as he was a babe in the woods, but with a really good idea. His failing though was that he chose a really shitty business partner. His partner fucked him over pretty badly and ruined the business. This left the business with no money and me with a lot of unpaid invoices.

    He understandably felt like shit. His wife was not happy as he had just spent 18-24 months with essentially no income and he had just lost most of their savings. He approached me, hat in hand, over a few stiff drinks and told me all the details. He ended with, "I don't know how yet, but I will get you paid." I told him very clearly that the money was owed to my business by the business that he had a part in and that debt died with the startup. I told him that he did not owe me anything. I told him to forget about that money and to take care of himself and his wife first and that I knew the risk of working with a startup.

    I hope they understand as well. If you told them the risk going in, which you say that you did, then they should have expected that money to be gone when they wrote the check. ROI was a bonus beyond that point. And the fact that your startup did not pay them back is not necessarily a reflection on you.

    @rad131304 said:

    Even then, there were many conversations to the effect of: "so if you give us this money, you should assume you'll never get it back".

    Good man. You let them know the risk.

    I have been in business a long time. I learned from my father, who learned from his. I would never claim to be a guru, but if there is anyway that I can be of help, you need but ask. PM works also if you prefer to keep it private. Keep your head up, it gets better.



  • I didn't say there was. I'm not sure there was really in my case either, especially in the $125/year business; it often involved working past midnight, then falling into bed before getting up to go to my day job — too tired for sex.



  • @Polygeekery said:

    @rad131304 said:
    The company will live, but many, many, many changes will abound.

    How so?

    Basically? If we REALLY need to, we can sell our assets out from under our creditors so that when we go chapter 7 there's nothing for them the claim against.

    US LLCs are great.


  • Grade A Premium Asshole

    @rad131304 said:

    If we REALLY need to, we can sell our assets out from under our creditors so that when we go chapter 7 there's nothing for them the claim against.

    Be careful with that. That can give them fodder to pierce the corporate veil if they can prove that you did it for the exact reason that you just stated that you would.



  • If actual $$ changes hands (i.e. between 3rd party banks). Not much they can do about it. Especially if the assets are reasonably valued.

    Edit: PS I agree, the SEC is not a fan of most of those kinds of schemes.


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    @xaade said:

    and how I'm doing that with a straight jacket on.

    Voice recognition, typing with your toes/nose, friendly shrink or orderly taking dictation.

    @xaade said:

    It's an exercise left to the user as to which asylum I am posting from

    That's the hard part.


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