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  • Ms Richard, who has reportedly been forced to live in a barn without electricity in the rural Ariège département

    Couldn't she just build a Faraday cage? It's really easy, just check on Wikip... oh.



  • There's a big radio telescope in West Virginia...

    for like a mile or two around you're not even allowed a microwave oven.

    If she's serious, moving there could be an option?



  • who celebrated the former radio producer’s successful case

    How did she do that if she has the claimed issue?



  • Well, it's probably why she's a former radio producer.

    Alternatively, it's all a load of BS, which it probably is. Have they actually done any blind tests on her?



  • [quote="Maciejasjmj, post:5, topic:50872]Have they actually done any blind tests on her?
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    No one (or at least no one reputable) has ever confirmed what she is claiming to suffer from exists in anyone much less her. Though disability payments for being crazy seems reasonable.



  • I once used my phone as a WiFi tether when I didn't have internet. It physically affected me, I actually started feeling sick and got a headache until I turned it off. Strangely I've never had this experience with normal WiFi routers.


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    @locallunatic said:

    No one (or at least no one reputable) has ever confirmed what she is claiming to suffer from exists in anyone much less her.

    Not only that but from what I've read, even though these people claim they can tell when wireless devices (or anything that would generate an EM field), if you actually test it, they suddenly can't.



  • @LB_ said:

    I didn't have internet. It physically affected me, I actually started feeling sick and got a headache

    Been there.



  • In case it isn't clear: the lack of internet is not what caused me to feel sick, it was the WiFi signal from my phone. I could actually feel a difference between when I was downloading a file vs not using the network. It is very unpleasant. The feeling quickly faded when I disabled the WiFi hotspot.



  • @LB_ said:

    lack of internet is

    @LB_ said:

    what caused me to feel sick

    Yes, me too.



  • Hi, you should probably get in touch with a researcher in the field, they are striving without success to show this effect under clinical conditions - if you are willing to once again endure the discomfort of a WiFi transmission under double-blind, you may be able to provide valuable insights for future sufferers.



  • Please don't make fun of my medical condition. I'm being serious here, you're starting to offend me.

    EDIT: Perhaps I'm just in a bad mood today. Not sure why your jokes made me so angry.



  • People are moving there. The locals (population 120) don't appreciate the influx.



  • @LB_ said:

    Please don't make fun of my medical condition. I'm being serious here, you're starting to offend me.

    This is a clever troll, ain't it? Because if it were true what you're trying to tell us here, then you would be eligible for a million dollar.

    And that is no joke. Simply apply at the James Randi Educational Foundation.



  • I wasn't trolling, I was just in a terrible mood for some reason. I'm better now.


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    @LB_ said:

    Please don't make fun of my medical condition. I'm being serious here, you're starting to offend me.

    Well, it's either psychosomatic, in which case your life would be easier if you were rid of it, or it's a real effect, in which case you can make a bunch of money. Holing up somewhere and weeping over it is the approach that is least in your favour.



  • @LB_ said:

    I wasn't trolling, I was just in a terrible mood for some reason. I'm better now.

    It's easy to overestimate the character level of the crowd here.



  • Weird mood swing aside, I don't know if it was actual sensitivity to WiFi or if my phone's WiFi hardware was emitting a high pitch sound that I didn't notice. I don't have that phone anymore and I've never had any other experience. After that horrible experience I really didn't want to have it happen again, so I never tried to reproduce the results. At the time I didn't even know my experience was rare, and it wasn't until later when I mentioned it to someone that I found out it was unusual.



  • Ok, so Gribnit here is so ignant he's falling for the universe's most obvious troll. Awesome.



  • I'm allergic to Wi-Fi. It causes me to have more nose bleeds than normal. Also, whenever I walk past a microwave, my entire face melts off.


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    I seriously doubt that the speed of your WiFi could cause an effect on anything.



  • The WiFi is pretty fast until you get to the other side of the modem.


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    @LB_ said:

    Perhaps I'm just in a bad mood today. Not sure why your jokes made me so angry.

    YMBNH. Around these parts, when someone is in a bad mood they troll blakey or make fun of @ben_lubar's Internet.


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    @ben_lubar said:

    The WiFi is pretty fast until you get to the other side of the modem.

    Pffffbt, there is nothing on this side of the modem. Computers are for accessing the internets, and nothing else.



  • ji'a da'ai zdifanza mi sera'a lo jbobau


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    You're not helping your situation Ben.


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    Also, you spelled "Logjam" incorrectly.



  • Pearl Jam? Are they still a thing?


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    @Rhywden said:

    This is a clever troll, ain't it? Because if it were true what you're trying to tell us here, then you would be eligible for a million dollar.

    And that is no joke. Simply apply at the James Randi Educational Foundation.

    I subscribe to this guy's videos as he usually does interesting stuff. This video set off my bullshit detectors though. There is simply no evidence that Wifi or EMF or 4G can make a person feel ill and several people in the comments took him to task on it.

    Wilson Electric Is Making Us Sick – 09:58
    — Wranglerstar



  • If WiFi can make people ill, either:

    • homeopathy is a real thing that works
    • microwaves cause all the diseases in the world

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    @ben_lubar said:

    If WiFi can make people ill, either:

    • homeopathy chiropracty is a real thing that works
    • microwaves cause all the diseases in the world

    FTFM and to :trolleybus:



  • I hope she doesn't notice the radio signals, the cellular signals, the electromagnetic field from Earth itself.
    I hope she never opens a microwave. I hope she never uses infrared to warm herself.

    And for gods sake, don't get a condition where she needs an MRI.



  • Your mistake was not going to a uni and talking about your condition, then daring the professors to disprove it with a federal grant that pays you 2k a month.

    While I say this with a little sarcasm, I'm actually quite serious. I know for a fact that strobe lights make me lose my balance, as well as flickering lights in a store to a lesser degree. And we wouldn't know about it if someone didn't attempt to figure out what was going on.



  • Posted this elsewhere, but it's worth repeating:

    1. Inform the woman she must pick up the check in person
    2. Assure her that all WiFi in the building will be off
    3. Do not actually turn it off
    4. If she can pick up the check, she's denied the claim.

    You can vary this up a bit too. Tell her unfortunately the wifi will be on, but at low levels. Actually turn it off. If she complains, denied benefits.

    Run this trial over a few months of picking up the check, randomizing if the wifi is on or off, if she's told it's on or off-- even randomize if the person who is telling her it's on or off knows if it is actually on or off. Randomize the off switch to occasionally reverse.


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    @tar said:

    Pearl Jam? Are they still a thing?

    NFC, but I do know that I got my first lap dance at a titty bar to Pearl Jam's "Black". Now that is getting your money's worth.

    <and yes, I know he was referring to my "Log Jam" reference. I chose to ignore the joke


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    @Lorne_Kates said:

    Run this trial over a few months of picking up the check, randomizing if the wifi is on or off, if she's told it's on or off-- even randomize if the person who is telling her it's on or off knows if it is actually on or off. Randomize the off switch to occasionally reverse.

    At the end, when she fails the test, send her a whopping bill.


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    @LB_ said:

    I wasn't trolling, I was just in a terrible mood for some reason. I'm better now.

    Turned off your hotspot, did you?


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    Only logjam would have a word for "we (not including me)" other than "you" or "y'all".


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    @ben_lubar said:

    microwaves cause all the diseases in the world

    It's too bad you weren't around in the middle ages to warn people the black death was caused by all those yet-to-be-invented microwaves and not rats.



  • I'm allergic to Wi-Fi too, but only draft-n.


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    @Lorne_Kates said:

    Run this trial over a few months

    Or meet her somewhere, carrying 3-4 cell phones secreted in various pockets. Each time she complains, turn off another one. See how many tries it takes for her to realize you're yanking her chain.


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    @rc4 said:

    I'm allergic to Wi-Fi too, but only draft-n.

    Well, that's fortu_n_ate.

    Oh, Discurse, why? :facepalm:



  • What's wrong with fortunate? :wtf:


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    @rc4 said:

    What's wrong with fortunate? :wtf:

    CBA to try alternatives.


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    @Polygeekery said:

    I subscribe to this guy's videos as he usually does interesting stuff. This video set off my bullshit detectors though. There is simply no evidence that Wifi or EMF or 4G can make a person feel ill and several people in the comments took him to task on it.

    Yes, but if someone really can detect these things, then we'd love to know how. Really. Being able to sense these sorts of things (though without headaches and sniffles, natch) directly would be a tremendously useful skill in the modern world. Now, I personally believe that they can't sense these things at all and that it's all in their imaginations, but I know I'm quite capable of believing 17 wrong things before breakfast, so my lack of confidence in the people making these claims shouldn't be taken as indicating that they're necessarily wrong.

    I could well believe some volatile chemical being the actual thing causing problems. I'm irritatingly sensitive to that sort of thing, and I wish I wasn't. Had to switch majors at university because of it, and I find even touching up paintwork around the house to be horrible.


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    @Rhywden said:

    And that is no joke. Simply apply at the James Randi Educational Foundation.

    Just curious, have they ever given anyone the million dollars?



  • @blakeyrat said:

    universe's most obvious troll.

    Second most obvious troll. Please reflect on how subtly you have ever been called a liar.



  • No, it's still unclaimed.



  • These guys can show how dangerous stray microwaves are.... sorry i mean stray microwave parts:

    What microwave oven is capable. Magnetron microwave energy. – 03:43
    — kreosan


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