The FSF's statement on Windows 10
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Nope. On Windows, security is delegated to Windows Secure Channel ("Schannel"), which isn't getting open sourced.
On Linux... hard dependency on OpenSSL 0.9.7a, I'll bet.
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Oh well, I guess we'll have to wait and see...
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You are just butthurt that there is no
mainstream software inuse for LojbanFTFY etc.
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I do find that useful in phones, where you expect to get a new one every year or two, and generally WANT all your old stuff, but most of the time, when I get a new computer, it's because I want to start fresh. I don't want that stuff to follow me
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I do find that useful in phones, where you expect to get a new one every year or two, and generally WANT all your old stuff, but most of the time, when I get a new computer, it's because I want to start fresh. I don't want that stuff to follow me
Do you burn down your house with your family inside before you buy a new computer?
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Do you burn down your house with your family inside before you buy a new computer?
Where's the problem, as long as he has two backups of the family members he wants to keep?
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Where's the problem, as long as he has
twooffsite backups of the family members he wants to keep?FTFY<eg>
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@PWolff said:
Where's the problem, as long as he has
twooffsite backups of the family members he wants to keep?FTFY
You shouldn't have deleted the "two", though. In particular when the original is about to be destroyed.
I admit I was too lazy to think about such things as offsite. But in case of physical burning, they make lots of sense.
By the way, according to what I like to think to remember I learned, a workmanlike backup is stored in another galaxy, and if that's not feasible, at least on another planet. If you can't afford even that, on another continent, or at least in another fire section.
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You shouldn't have delete the "two", though.
You would want to restrict yourself to only having that many backup family members?
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No, to only that many backups to keep.
Now we could discuss whether "two" means "exactly two" or "at least two" for an unlimited amount of time.
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Now we could discuss whether "two" means "exactly two" or "at least two" for an unlimited amount of time.
And whether you're really talking about a backup or a “hot copy”.
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@Rhywden said:
Gluglug
Where's the break between syllables?
- glug-lug?
- glu-glug?
- something else?
My guess: g[nu]-lug-lug.
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Oh snap! That's almost 1/100th as awful as the shit Google does every goddamned day!
The important thing here is MS blurring the lines between an OS and a service.
I want the OS to be a solid foundation that is 100% to be trusted. Based on this, I might chose to use a service and maybe also compromise on some aspects as part of the price.(BTW, it's really a great and successful marketing campaign by MS to offer Win 10 as a free upgrade. So, it's like, hey it comes for free, it's part of the price. But that's only true for a limited audience and for a limited time span. Anyone buying a new machine will be paying for it, and it this case twice.)
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...is that not normal?
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BTW, it's really a great and successful marketing campaign by MS to offer Win 10 as a free upgrade.
If something is free, then you are the service that is being sold.
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Anyone buying a new machine will be paying for it, and it this case twice.
Twice? How?
Because you will pay once for the Windows (as part of the bundle price of the machine or for a separate box) and ever there after just in the same fashion as all the users with the free upgrade are doing.
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What?...Oh, pay for it in pain, not a monetary sense.
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ever there after just in the same fashion as all the users with the free upgrade are doing.
Because... they use it to advertise their app store? Is that what you're on about?
Is this just another case of, "stuff Apple did 5 years ago and got zero criticism, but now that Microsoft's doing it it's the worst idea in history"?
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Is this just another case of, "stuff Apple did 5 years ago and got zero criticism, but now that Microsoft's doing it it's the worst idea in history"?
Called it.
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Is this just another case of, "stuff Apple did 5 years ago and got zero criticism, but now that Microsoft's doing it it's the worst idea in history"?
Is there anything that Apple does that gets zero criticism? Apple and Microsoft seem fairly equal to the extent that opinions about them are polarized.
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@boomzilla said:
Is there anything that Apple does that gets zero criticism?
Pretty much everything?
FTFY
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If you saw some criticism of Apple making OS updates free to promote their app store, please link to it.
All I saw was a cascade of, "about time!" and "Steve Jobs have my babies!"
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All I saw was a cascade of, "about time!" and "Steve Jobs have my babies!"
Those are guaranteed, of course.
If you saw some criticism of Apple making OS updates free to promote their app store, please link to it.
I haven't noticed anyone criticizing MS for this either, not that I really care all that much one way or the other on this particular topic. I just found it hilarious that you'd target Apple as a company that doesn't get criticized.
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Because... they use it to advertise their app store? Is that what you're on about?
Is this just another case of, "stuff Apple did 5 years ago and got zero criticism, but now that Microsoft's doing it it's the worst idea in history"?
I'm not going to say that Apple is doing much better.
(I'm not going with OS X 10.10 for a number of reasons.)Usually, there's a choice of either get advertising and be tracked, or pay a price and be unmolested. With Win 10 you get both, if not on an upgrade path.
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Usually, there's a choice of either get advertising and be tracked, or pay a price and be unmolested. With Win 10 you get both, if not on an upgrade path.
Do you know that's true, or are you guessing?
For all I know, Microsoft has started comping OEMs for their Windows licenses.
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For all I know, Microsoft has started comping OEMs for their Windows licenses.
For all I know, unicorns do exist.
See how meaningless such statements are?
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I'm asking if he knows for sure that OEMs are being charged for Windows. I don't. Maybe he does. I'm asking. Microsoft made Windows Phone free for OEMs, maybe they did the same with Windows 10 Home.
When I don't know a thing, instead of assuming the truth, I ask about it.
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Do you know that's true, or are you guessing?
If I'm on Vista, I'm to pay $ 100+ and will get ads in Solitaire and the like and am going to be tracked. Also, I haven't seen a major price drop in machines bundled with Win 10 so far. So it's like "free to use" and "pay for it" at the same time.
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Also, I haven't seen a major price drop in machines bundled with Win 10 so far.
That's not evidence; that could just mean the OEMs said, "cha-ching!" and pocketed the $15-per-motherboard instead of passing the savings along.
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That's not evidence; that could just mean the OEMs said, "cha-ching!" and pocketed the $15-per-motherboard instead of passing the savings along.
If it were a true free to use model, there would be means to press OEMs to forward the advantage to the end user (by licensing terms).
[Edit] At least that would be, what I would expect as a user.
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That's another assumption.
Nevermind. I'm too lazy to research it myself, and obviously you're uninterested, so I'll just drop it.
The FSF hates Windows 10. The End.
(I was going for "fin" but "middle_finger" is good too.)
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Why would an OEM ever agree to that? They would just package the system with Windows 8, which doesn't have that in the terms, and then sell the upgrade to Windows 10 as a service, making more money.
