Poll: 𝛱 vs 𝛵

Continuing the discussion from Re: today's date:
But tau is vastly superior to pi in every way.
We clearly have one fan of 𝜏. Which is superior, 𝜋 or 𝜏? All hail 𝜋
 All hail 𝜏
 22/7
 44/7 + 0
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The other academics chuckled. “A big claim indeed!”, the Dean remarked. “So, you propose to get rid of the thine?”
“Yes, sir”, said Vichael. “I think it’s a very oddlydefined unit.”
“My dear man”, smiled the Dean, “the thine is one of the most elegant units we have. The time between perihelion and aphelion. The period between the equinoxes, and between the solstices. It’s the most natural thing there is. What else do you propose?”
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I like 3.14 myself.
Everything after that is garbage.

I voted pi because I just ate one. And I'm about to eat another

I voted for , obviously.

Better than it appeared to me on Android:

Is that with Chrome? Repro'd if so...

Yeah, Chrome. Can't test the "stock" Android browser because that is Chrome on this device.
Also, I didn't get a notification for your reply, but I did on the like and the subsequent reply. And yes, the notifications also have blanks.

They both use WebKit anyway I think, and the fonts will be the same, so it'll be the same result

This is a dangerous poll. Might split the community right down the τ/2

What are you suggesting my intention was?
At least Chrome correctly renders the characters in the Tab title and the Tab tooltip...

They both use WebKit anyway I think
hmmmmm?yes I know it's because I have a superior set of fonts installed

I like 3.14 myself.
Everything after that is garbage.
I respectfully suggest that 355/113 is much better than 3.14. Not to mention (shudder) 22/7.
Edit: After all, 355/113 is accurate to the onemillionth decimal place.

Silly browser written in Node: 10 points
Yes, I'm giving it a test run. Which is ending I think, it's too quirky. Works for regular browsing but has some bugs and it's annoying to use the dev tools when you can't dock them in the main window...

You could always try it again once it's actually finished.

I could. And probably will.
I just hope some of the Discourse bugs (specific to using it in Vivaldi) will still be there once it reaches 1.0
Filed under: I miss our custom emojicons

Why is there a dog in my post?
checks edit history
:frystare.wmv: I see what you did there...

Who would ever think 𝜏 is superior? Just because the circumference is 𝜏r? Or because there are 𝜏 rads in a circle? That's like saying 360 should be called 1. Fek'n lazy bastards if you ask me.


Who would ever think 𝜏 is superior? Just because the circumference is 𝜏r? Or because there are 𝜏 rads in a circle? That's like saying 360 should be called 1. Fek'n lazy bastards if you ask me.
I strongly prefer π as that has this wonderful mathematical identity:
e^{πi} + 1 = 0That sort of awesome doesn't just happen out of nothing, no sir!

Oh here we go, the mathemationalists arrived.
Next thing they are gonna do is deny that i evolved from √1 ...

INB4 fight to the death,
e^{πi} + 1 = 0vs.
e^{𝜏i} = 1

Next thing they are gonna do is deny that i evolved from √1 ...
Well, naturally i = j k. Though I do not know how they call that group in english...

<div><big><big><big><big> <i>e</i><sup><i>𝜏i</i></sup> = 1</div>
Fuck me. ASDESIGNED...
Anyway, I was going to say that the 𝜏, whatever it is is rendering as a little box for me, and I have no freaking idea how to google for an equation, so I would like to humbly request what constant it is?
(I'd guess tau based on the topic history, but...)


𝜏 = 2×π

e^{𝜏i} = 1
That version is significantly nonunique; it would also be true if either 𝜏 or i were zero, and that would never do.

What's the period of the sine and cosine functions? 2π
Circumference of a circle? 2π
One full turn? 2π radiansWhat is pi anyway? It's the ratio between circumference and diameter. When was the last time you saw diameter of a circle used in any mathematical operation, instead of radius?
Just look at this diagram, weird as fuck. 3 halves? 2 thirds? Who likes thinking in terms of half circles?
Whereas 1 tau = 1 τurn. So easy to remember, you can even make it implicit.
And the area of a circle: πr^{2}. Wait! Here pi is alone. So how does this work in favor of tau?
Think about it: the area of a circle is an integration of τr (2πr). And what do you get when you integrate kx over x?
BAM, k/2 x^{2}! So it's not that you have to halve tau because it's twice as big as it should, it's halved because that's how all quadratic equations work.

I don't think that works for the area and volume of a sphere.

I don't think that works for the area and volume of a sphere.
Shh! Stop bringing mathematical reality into this. @anonymous234's going on about this is amusing if deeply wilfully ignorant. I bet he also uses j for the square root of minus one, the heretic…

So for one class of problems the arithmetic is simpler.
What's the area of a circle in terms of 𝜏?
Fucking ugly; that's what.
If 𝜋 were less "correct" than 𝜏 don't you think Fermat, Gauss, Newton, Leibniz, Riemann, Euler, Abel, Ramanjuan or any other prominent Mathematician in the last 1600 years would have said, "Gee guys, 𝜋 seems to be less useful than 2𝜋, maybe we should use that other number instead?"

τr (2πr).
One τ per revolution, τ has one leg.
Two π per revolution. π has two legs.Coincidence? Or conspiracy? (*scare chord*)

Polls are fixed?! Hurrah!

I don't know about the integrations but at least the resulting formulas are just as nice
Area = 4πr^{2} = 2τr^{2}
Volume = 4/3 πr^{3} = 2/3 τr^{3}

I bet he also uses j for the square root of minus one, the heretic…
I do. Sometimes. Well, I'm an EE originally, we always used j for reactance.

And if you imagine that they are the lower half of a division, and there's a 1 on top, the two legs of the "π" could be a 2 in roman numerals so you get one half, whereas τ is just 1/1 = 1, so twice as much. Cool eh? Well not much, but still better than the weird thing someone proposed.


INB4 fight to the death,
FTFY. You wouldn't what to leave out the neutral element of multiplication, as well the addition operation, would you?e^{πi} + 1 = 0vs.
e^{𝜏i} + 0 = 1

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Fuck disourse.

Eh?

Eh?
Oh, I suppose YOU can click on one of those options in the OP's poll and have it register as a vote, huh? Huh? Go ahead. Click on it. See what happens. I dare you.

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Mmm, I love the smell of destroyed user data in the morning. Even better when it is multiple user's data!

I bet the data's still in the database somewhere. There's no way Discourse cleans up after itself.

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Next thing they are gonna do is deny that i evolved from √1 ...
Interesting thing about that is that it happened twice.
When mathematicians needed a name for that result, they used i.
When electrical engineers needed one, they used j.
The really interesting part is that the mathematicians and electrical engineers had simply assumed for years that i = j, and that it wasn't until Frank Mendacius's seminal paper appeared in 1993 that the modern consensus (i = j) came to light.

I do not get it, what is the point of j? Google tells me "Did you mean: Frank Mendacious"

Huh. TIL. We never used it as such in calculations though,
Oh well, another "backwards thing that Just Works™" in EE, even though people out of the trade say it's backwards.

The really interesting part is that the mathematicians and electrical engineers had simply assumed for years that i = j, and that it wasn't until Frank Mendacius's seminal paper appeared in 1993 that the modern consensus (i = j) came to light.
Of course it is backwards. Lots of things are backwards in that field. Current? Backwards. Voltage? Backwards. Wouldn't be at all surprised if magnetic fields are also backwards. And it's all too much hassle to fix.

Google tells me "Did you mean: Frank Mendacious"
That would be what we doctors call a clue.