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  • Funny. But since those are sponsored links, can we really say they are WTF?



  • You mean google can have an exception for its own product, you know one that maybe provides you links to books on its api?


  • SockDev

    of course not that would cause the euro commission on anti trust to fine them even more money!


  • SockDev

    Not really a WTF; more of a Funny Stuff than an Error'd.

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  • I was assuming the author of the book wasn't related to Google.


  • SockDev

    with the EU antitrust issues google has i wouldn't bet on anything there.



  • Microsoft still has to make sure they aren't encouraging anyone to use explorer.... even though no one uses netscape....

    Gah, is that browser still around???

    Hm... yep, two failures in one.

    Seems they didn't need help failing, and antitrust didn't do anything to help.

    Hint: Maybe that's why Microsoft is a monopoly. And not because they bundle.


  • SockDev

    @xaade said:

    Microsoft still has to make sure they aren't encouraging anyone to use explorer

    Maybe, but they don't have to show anyone that Browser Choice screen anymore, not since December.

    I wonder if that screen had any effect on market share… probably not.

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  • Walks into McDonalds.

    We are obligated to inform you that you do not need to purchase soda from our facility. You can also purchase soda at the gas station next to you.
    We've provided an ad space for the gas station in our location here, right next to the front door.
    If you do purchase soda from the gas station, we are obligated to offer our combo discount.



  • Can you whoosh harder?

    What MS were atoning for was like there being only one supermarket in town, who then decided to add a gas station, bank, dentist and general hospital on their site, and not let you buy a packet of milk without also using all of the above because they were totally integrated.

    Of course, the sanctions imposed were pretty silly, and MS even forgot to actually do it for several months without anybody noticing.



  • @lightsoff said:

    one supermarket in town

    Wrong. They were the only supermarket in town marketing to the people driving by.
    The supermarket across the street marketed to people who came from across town, and they didn't even put a sign up for the public. You had to know what you were ordering first.

    @lightsoff said:

    decided to add a gas station, bank, dentist and general hospital on their site, and not let you buy a packet of milk without also using all of the above because they were totally integrated.

    So, installing a soda machine, integrating it into combos, and forcing you to pay a higher price for a burger and fries than a burger fries and coke, is in no way identical to your metaphor.

    The only way MS could have lived up to my metaphor more, is if they charged a higher price for an edition of windows without explorer.

    @lightsoff said:

    not let you buy a packet of milk without also using all of the above because they were totally integrated.

    Wrong again.
    More like bundle a free packet of milk, and not advertise that their neighbor also offered a free packet of milk.

    Seriously, I don't understand the complaint at all.

    Netscape was complaining because people didn't download their free browser, because windows came with a free browser. Had they tied into an ISP and force you to use their browser with that ISP, they would have been AOL, and failed harder than they did. Thanks to that, we now have Firefox. And why is Firefox succeeding? Because it functions better than IE.

    Which proves that if you just function better, people will pick you.

    The attack on Microsoft was other companies forcing Microsoft to pay for their advertising.

    ... and... they... still.... failed.

    I'm not saying monopolies can't be a bad thing.
    But that, making laws to subsidize failing companies to give us an illusion of diversifying the market, is just as bad.

    We would be years behind in browser technology, if firefox and chrome weren't better than explorer at some point. And none of the antitrust did anything to help that happen. The free market did it.



  • @xaade said:

    And why iswas Firefox succeeding?

    FTFY


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @xaade said:

    Wrong. They were the only supermarket in town marketing to the people driving by.

    Look up what “monopoly market power” is on about, and note that it doesn't require a “total monopoly”.



  • @dkf said:

    Look up what “monopoly market power” is on about, and note that it doesn't require a “total monopoly”.

    But "goverment anti-trust actions" don't have to make sense either.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @boomzilla said:

    But "goverment anti-trust actions" don't have to make sense either.

    True dat. I was just pointing out that insisting that monopoly law only applies where someone's got 100% of the market is an absurd position not borne out in either law or reality. I wasn't getting into whether the relevant laws were well written or applied consistently.



  • Yeah, but I don't get how that applies.

    My metaphor is simple, it's a metaphor after all.

    Do I have to simulate the entire market.

    Let's do this plainly.

    1. Monopoly bad.
    2. Antitrust to stop monopoly bad too.

    But this is true of every set of government intervention.

    1. Medical system bad.
    2. AHA bad too.

    and

    1. Gun bad.
    2. Gun regulation (banana clips ZOMG) bad.

    Apparently the lawmakers never heard of taped clips.

    This can go on and on.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place


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