You have crashed a great game


  • :belt_onion:

    Conglaturation!

    Yes, I'm trying to run it in Wine, shut up.



  • If God wanted you to play Windows games on Linux he/she would have grown a beard on Bill Gates.


  • :belt_onion:

    If games detected my GPU properly, they would work. Same shit as running anything XNA, it fails to detect my GPU properly. The alternative that would probably work is installing Catalyst drivers, but they are such a gigantic piece of crap that I'll pass.

    Good thing I arranged to test this thing using family share so I wasted no money. Oh well.



  • @Onyx said:

    If games detected my GPU properly, they would work.

    Have you considered upgrading from a hamster in a wheel?


  • :belt_onion:

    @Keith said:

    Have you considered upgrading from a hamster in a wheel?

    Sadly, none of the laptops I was offered had nvidia cards, so yeah... hamster in a broken wheel it is.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Onyx said:

    The alternative that would probably work is installing Catalyst drivers, but they are such a gigantic piece of crap that I'll pass.

    They're a gigantic piece of crap on genuine Windows too. How can a bunch of graphics drivers require more system memory than a web browser?!



  • @dkf said:

    They're a gigantic piece of crap on genuine Windows too. How can a bunch of graphics drivers require more system memory than a web browser?!

    Uhh you know that the Catalyst Control Center is a completely optional and separate part of the Catalyst Driver suite right? I'm surprised people actually install it. The AMD drivers work just fine without it.


  • :belt_onion:

    @delfinom said:

    Uhh you know that the Catalyst Control Center is a completely optional and separate part of the Catalyst Driver suite right? I'm surprised people actually install it. The AMD drivers work just fine without it.

    Well, in my case the complaint was the drivers themselves. I used the name "catalyst" to clearly mark them as the "official" version and try to avoid confusion of non-Linux crowd.

    On Linux, ATI's / AMD's official driver is called fglrx. The open source one is called radeon. If I said fglrx people would be confused (WTF is fglrx?). If I said I'm using radeon atm and don't want to switch, people would be confused (Well of course you're using radeon, it's an AMD card!). So I took a shortcut. That ended well.

    As far as CCC itsef... Well, on Linux it doesn't run in the background all the time, and even when you do run it it's fine on memory. Of course, that's because it has something to the tune of 5 options available. Two of which do nothing, one is useless, one is outright broken, and the last one requires you to restart the X server (actually, it claims you need to restart your computer. It's lying). So... yay?



  • @delfinom said:

    The AMD drivers work just fine without it.

    The AMD drivers tend to erroneously enable underscan on 1080p HDMI monitors, and the only way to turn it off without messing up with the registry is from the CCC.



  • @dkf said:

    How can a bunch of graphics drivers require more system memory than a web browser?!

    Hardware accelerated Discourse ;)



  • @delfinom said:

    Uhh you know that the Catalyst Control Center is a completely optional and separate part of the Catalyst Driver suite right? I'm surprised people actually install it. The AMD drivers work just fine without it.

    But it seems like the only way to get the "full" driver, including OpenGL stuff. Maybe there's another, but I never noticed anything obvious. Not that I'm a Windows / AMD / Graphics expert.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @VinDuv said:

    The AMD drivers tend to erroneously enable underscan on 1080p HDMI monitors, and the only way to turn it off without messing up with the registry is from the CCC.

    I've noticed that and it's really annoying. How do you turn it off from the registry? I'd be willing to mess around with that to get rid of CCC.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @OffByOne said:

    Hardware accelerated Discourse

    View all that whitespace in glorious 3D!


  • area_deu

    What kind of evil politician are you who wants to get rid of the CCC?!?!


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    That page isn't as English as it claims.


  • :belt_onion:

    Since we got onto the subject anyway, anyone here using radeon on Linux? DPM is being an asshole:

    Screenshot because copying when powerline is installed is a pain

    Anyone know how to fix that?


    Filed under: confidence is low



  • Nothing there looks like an error that needs fixing.


  • :belt_onion:

    @blakeyrat said:

    Nothing there looks like an error that needs fixing.

    Let's say that anyone who would know how to fix it would also see the problem. For everyone else I just skipped a long explanation that would mean nothing to them.



  • @FrostCat said:

    I've noticed that and it's really annoying. How do you turn it off from the registry? I'd be willing to mess around with that to get rid of CCC.

    (what, no onebox?)
    Works for me, at least…



  • Like the bit where it's using his on-CPU graphics instead of the discrete card?



  • We don't even care enough to know what our game is,
    but we're confident it's a great game.

    What, did a marketer make that popup?


  • :belt_onion:

    To be fair, the log complained about locale settings until I set Wine to identify as Windows XP, so it might be a failed translation.

    Doesn't excuse the default string being "Unknown great game" though.



  • radeon explicity doesn't support PowerXpress.
    If you install fglrx, then you can do PowerXpress switching, but it will crash your X server.


  • :belt_onion:

    I had DPM working reliably before.

    Before kernel 3.13 I used /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch to activate my AMD card, restarted X and it was fine.

    With kernel 3.13+ radeon can use DPM. I have radeon.dpm=1 radeon.runpm=1 added to my kernel command line (apparently, radeon.runpm should be enough, but it wasn't), that's why /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch is reporting DynOff.

    Setting DRI_PRIME=1 should activate the AMD card and use it for rendering. The bit I forgot to mention is that xrandr mostly reports this:

    $ xrandr --listproviders 
    Providers: number : 1
    Provider 0: id: 0x48 cap: 0x9, Source Output, Sink Offload crtcs: 4 outputs: 5 associated providers: 0 name:Intel
    

    Meaning it doesn't detect my discrete card at all. Now sometimes it works. xrandr reports 3 providers (no idea why I get two provides from AMD card), DRI_PRIME works, it's all fine. Sometimes restarting X helps. Sometimes it doesn't . It's pretty random, and pretty annoying.



  • Huh, well damn. I'm out of ideas and outdated documentation. Good luck man.


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