What's killing off "gameified" communities (yes I made a post of my tweets, suck it)


  • I survived the hour long Uno hand

    eh, I like openid. "Why the fuck do I need an account to do basic fucking things" is a lot easier to deal with when making an account means "press the facebook button". Fuck if I care about a billion shitty accounts to a billion shitty sites I'll never come back to again.



  • @Yamikuronue said:

    eh, I like openid. "Why the fuck do I need an account to do basic fucking things" is a lot easier to deal with when making an account means "press the facebook button".

    But the Facebook Connect works in a way OpenID never did. (And no, it is not OpenID. It's actually more similar to Microsoft's old Passport login system.)

    @Yamikuronue said:

    Fuck if I care about a billion shitty accounts to a billion shitty sites I'll never come back to again.

    Nobody ever said that the OpenID guys failed to identify a real problem. But they definitely failed at solving it.


  • I survived the hour long Uno hand

    Hmm. I guess the issue is I don't give a crap how any of it's implemented, so I fail to recognize when something is or isn't OpenID. To me, the Google Account button works the same way the Facebook button does, but I prefer to use the Facebook button for throwaway accounts because I could delete my entire facebook and not be seriously inconvenienced.



  • @Yamikuronue said:

    Hmm. I guess the issue is I don't give a crap how any of it's implemented, so I fail to recognize when something is or isn't OpenID.

    Ok well here's a pro-tip: when we say "OpenID is awful", we're talking about OpenID. Not Facebook Connect, not LiveID, not anything other than OpenID.

    Coming in here and saying, "OpenID is great because Facebook Connect!" is like saying, "Ford cars are great, because Volvo's safety record!" It's gibberish.

    I didn't use StackOverflow when they only allowed OpenID logins. I only started using them when they added Facebook Connect and their own login system. Because fuck OpenID.


  • ♿ (Parody)

    I don't always want stuff connected to Facebook or whatever, either. Though I agree, for the stuff that uses it, it's easy. And while Stackoverflow does that now, it didn't used to. And there was no fucking alternative to OpenID.


  • I survived the hour long Uno hand

    @blakeyrat said:

    It's gibberish.

    I'll be more clear: when I say "the issue" I meant "the reason I said something stupid". I said something stupid >.>



  • WHILE I AM RANTING I would also like to reiterate that Microsoft solved this problem back when they made Passport public in like 1997 or whenever. They then stopped solving the problem in 2009, when it became obvious there was no money or even market advantage in it. (And adoption was low because obviously Microsoft is TEH EVILZZZ.)



  • Oh I owe you an apology, it was the blog post that called Facebook an OpenID provider. Huh.

    (I'm not sure what Google uses, but if it's OpenID it's highly-highly-highly modified.)



  • Google uses OAuth2 but can interface with OpenIDConnect



  • @blakeyrat said:

    far bigger problem is with people asking thoughtful questions that never get answered.

    I look back at all my questions. And the ones that got answers, were answerable by someone with better search-fu.

    The ones that were real show-stoppers and cost me clients/productivity, I ended up answering myself after I figured it out.

    Most often if it's too complicated, you'll be lucky if it isn't closed as a "domain problem".


  • I survived the hour long Uno hand

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenID <How do I make this not onebox... there we go

    Several large organizations either issue or accept OpenIDs on their websites according to the OpenID Foundation:[2] AOL, Blogger, Flickr, France Telecom, Google, Hyves, LiveJournal, Microsoft (provider name Microsoft account), Mixi, Myspace, Novell, Orange, Sears, Sun, Telecom Italia, Universal Music Group, VeriSign, WordPress, and Yahoo!. Other providers are BBC,[3] IBM,[4] PayPal,[5] Steam,[6] along with GitHub, Identi.ca, Last.fm, Linkedin, and Twitter.[7]

    I have...eight of those? Nine if google counts? But I only ever really use three to create accounts: Facebook (not OpenID), Google (apparently semi-kinda-sorta-OpenID) and Wordpress (when commenting on blogs where I'd like to link back to my own blog). Wordpress is kind of nice; I like that I have to go to the site on my own for security reasons but hate it for not being convenient, so it's a mixed bag.



  • @loopback0 said:

    Bookmarks are rate-limited too

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