Is Uber the *worst* .com currently?



  • It's definitely in the running, if not top-dog:

    This is the company that paid its employees to create and cancel thousands of fake appointments with a rival. In fact... just click all of the links in the top few paragraphs. Uber is awful.


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    @blakeyrat said:

    Uber is awful.

    Of course, taxi monopolies suck too, but in a different way.

    Sure would be nice if people could just not be awful.



  • @FrostCat said:

    Sure would be nice if people could just not be awful.

    I'd like people more if 90% of them didn't need to just go away.



  • BTW here's the Buzzfeed, a little bit "more authorative" as it comes from the journalist who actually heard the threats first-hand:



  • Sounds like the guy is frustrated with journalists. The buzzfeed article sounded a lot more balanced than the pando chick. I guess I'd have to dig into all the other stuff before being able to form a real opinion.



  • @boomzilla said:

    The buzzfeed article sounded a lot more balanced than the pando chick.

     #Ubergate

    This is about ethics in ride sharing journalism!



  • @chubertdev said:

    #Ubergate

    I'm actually interested in this, as I know someone who recently started driving for them.



  • You misogynist! Label is now worthless.



  • @boomzilla said:

    The buzzfeed article sounded a lot more balanced than the pando chick.

    That's because he was a more-or-less neutral observer.

    The "pando chick" learned about it when the Buzzfeed reporter called her to get a comment on it for his article. Since she was the one being personally targeted by this hypothetical $1 million/8 employee task force, she was understandably pretty upset.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Since she was the one being personally targeted by this hypothetical $1 million/8 employee task force, she was understandably pretty upset.

    Right, but how many execs have said something similar about a journalist? I'm sure many politicians have. And they do it out in the open. The difference is about how serious they are about it, and her hysteria, where I couldn't even tell what the threats to her and her kids were.

    I started following links in the article, but a lot of them weren't even about Uber, so after a point I gave up. She came across to me as a tin foil hatter in her basement. "Pando" had never breached my consciousness before, so her article and her links was all I had to go from.



  • @boomzilla said:

    Right, but how many execs have said something similar about a journalist?

    That's really the most shocking thing about this: how stupid this guy is.

    I'm sure lots of them have. They generally don't do it IN FRONT OF ANOTHER JOURNALIST.

    @boomzilla said:

    The difference is about how serious they are about it, and her hysteria, where I couldn't even tell what the threats to her and her kids were.

    The Buzzfeed journalist thought it was serious, obviously. or he wouldn't have posted the article about it.

    @boomzilla said:

    and her hysteria, where I couldn't even tell what the threats to her and her kids were.

    The Buzzfeed article mentions one specific fact about her this "task force" would have been able to positively obtained, although he's classy enough to not repeat what that fact is. But the very fact that Michael mentioned it is pretty damning. He's outright saying, "we suspect (embarassing thing) and this task force will get evidence so we can use it for blackmail". Not in as many words.

    @boomzilla said:

    She came across to me as a tin foil hatter in her basement.

    Read the Buzzfeed article, I should have posted it first. I'm kind of coming into this particular piece of news ass-first as well.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Read the Buzzfeed article, I should have posted it first

    Agreed. I think the key will be if they fire the guy soon (the obvious move).



  • Cheap cab rides and quite convenient, there are similar competing services such as hailo in my area.



  • Uber changes their privacy policy to say they won't look at driver or customer information except for legitimate business purposes.

    Uber executives consider hiring a team of 8 people to follow reporters around and blackmail them as "legitimate business".



  • Not read the article because trying to actually do something resembling work, but is the "and attack women" part really relevant/necessary, or is it there to bait clicks? "Uber silences journalists!" is news. "Uber silences journalists and is mysogynist!" starts sounding like paranoia.

    I'll have to look into this though: Uber recently (like, last week), opened up service in my city.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    http://gizmodo.com/ubers-new-privacy-policy-has-a-hilarious-loophole-1660378285

    Uber changes their privacy policy to say they won't look at driver or customer information except for legitimate business purposes.

    Talk about a sensational article, though. I mean...you gave the company the information. If you expect them never to use it, why would you give it to them? If you follow the link, they give actual examples:

    * Supporting riders and drivers in order to solve problems brought to their attention by the Uber community. * Facilitating payment transactions for drivers. * Monitoring driver and rider accounts for fraudulent activity, including terminating fake accounts and following up on stolen credit card reports. * Reviewing specific rider or driver accounts in order to troubleshoot bugs

    Which is the sort of thing you'd expect.

    @blakeyrat said:

    Uber executives consider hiring a team of 8 people to follow reporters around and blackmail them as "legitimate business".

    Eh, more sensational reporting, but at least it's only at TDWTF, where we all bullshit.



  • Here's a glowingly pro-Uber article that contains the line “By now, Uber is used to ignoring rules.”

    Certainly, some of the regulations Uber is struggling against are absolutely awful, however, Uber is not the only company fighting those regulations. From what I've read today, it seems Uber is only the front runner because it is the most brazen in its willingness to flout the laws. And if someone is willing to break one set of laws, spmething tells me they will be willing to break another. If I were you I'd tell your friend not to trust Uber any further than your friend can throw them.



  • @Buddy said:

    And if someone is willing to break one set of laws, spmething tells me they will be willing to break another.

    That's certainly possible. I was largely calling bullshit on blakey, who likes to put tinfoil on people who are skeptical about the NSA collecting information for the Feds, a proven abuser of the citizenry and law breaker (and whose executives have said far worse things than what the Uber dude said).



  • But if the goal is pursuit of ethics and the group whose ethics are in question involves women, it's obviously misogynist. No one could possibly not hate women if they call into question the ethics of a group that includes women. Doesn't everyone know that?


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    @trithne said:

    and is mysogynist!

    It's the new "you have to be a racist if you criticize a black person!" Well, it wants to be, but it's not getting as much traction.


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