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  • I'm actually replaying them all on Xbox 360 at the moment. I played each of them on Normal difficulty as a Combat/Tech Paragon as they came out, now I'm going through the entire trilogy in a row on Insane difficulty, playing through all the DLC (even the shitty Pinnacle Station :P ) as a Combat/Biotic Renegade.

    @accalia said:

    With over 75 hours of content

    I'm over that figure and I'm only about 3/4 of the way through the second game!


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    @KillaCoder said:

    With over 75 hours of content

    i'm assuming that figure is for a speed run. ;-)



  • @accalia said:

    i'm assuming that figure is for a speed run. ;-)

    It's still technically correct. Just like the Pacific Ocean is over 75 litres.


    Filed under: I bought Mass Effect 1 and 2 on Steam, don't know when/if I'll ever get around to playing them


  • FoxDev

    @hungrier said:

    It's still technically correct. Just like the Pacific Ocean is over 75 litres.

    that too.

    of course by that logic we could also make tic-tac-toe have over 75 hours of content....just have a really long delay between moves!



  • Mass Effect 2 is shit. Biggest let-down in gaming. So dumb your brain will explode if you even try to think about it. Etc, etc.

    I can't speak for 3 because I stopped buying those games after 2 kicked me in the balls.


  • FoxDev

    3 redeems the franchise. all was forgiven about ME2 after playing 3

    of course the play style isn't for everyone, but that's true for the entire franchise.

    also, wow... 18 hour delay. i'm surprised.



  • I had heard that 1 and 2 were worthwhile and 3 was bad. Or is it just the ending to 3 that's the Worst Thing In All Gaming â„¢?



  • Well the ending undoes the whole "all your actions have consequences over the course of the trilogy!" thing but, then again, so does the first 15 minutes of ME2, which is perhaps the worst case of railroading in the entire history of RPGs.

    The real problem is Bioware promised this huge 3-game epic and obviously were lying the entire time-- they'd never scripted or planned anything beyond the first game. Fucking liars.


  • FoxDev

    @hungrier said:

    Or is it just the ending to 3 that's the Worst Thing In All Gaming ?

    that is one thing about 3. the end is.... interesting. there's nominally 3 endings you can get, but there's actually something like 20, because your actions throughout the games actually have a big impact on how the game ends.

    if you go for a speed run you will get a disappointing ending, if you are more of a completionist you will get a better ending.

    if you save the council you get a different ending than if you don't.

    how you deal with the Rachni in ME1 has an impact on what happens in ME3,

    likewise with what you do on Feros and Virmire.

    same with things in ME2.

    they all come back to meet you in ME3, and they either help you or slap you in the face, depending on how you chose things in ME1 and ME2

    if you play all three games you can get the best endings.

    so the ending is one of the best/worst parts of ME3

    Online Multiplayer is fun as heck, and absolutely helps you in singleplayer, but it's not required. you can get the good endings without it.



  • Unless they've patched the shit out of it since my friend played it, that post is lies. There's 3 endings, all of which are functionally identical.


  • FoxDev

    @blakeyrat said:

    Unless they've patched the shit out of it since my friend played it, that post is lies. There's 3 endings, all of which are functionally identical.

    Play it and find out!

    they've patched it. massively improved the fourth ending type that becomes available if you have enough war assets and enough reputation (paragon/renegade irrelevant). The endings are also highly individualized based on the events of the game. and always have been.

    of course you won't be able to see that in just a single play through.



  • Well I'm glad they finally fixed but, but I ain't playing it. I have too many good games on my list.



  • I'll probably* eventually get around to playing the Mass Effect games, but they're among nearly 500 games in my Steam library, and Elite Dangerous. And instead of playing any of those, lately I've been playing Terraria while listening to podcasts.


  • FoxDev

    I'll respectfully disagree that ME is not a good game.

    i'l happily admit that some people don't like it, but i still think it's an amazing game!



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  • Tali's face was... [spoiler]disappointing after I found out how they did it.[/spoiler]


  • FoxDev

    @JazzyJosh said:

    Tali's face was...

    yeah. but accidentally [spoiler]triggering her suicide[/spoiler] was more of a shock.



  • [spoiler]I really wish I had legion at that point. Sorry Geth.[/spoiler]


  • FoxDev

    @JazzyJosh said:

    Tali's

    Is it bad I initially read that as 'Tails'? Then again, I have just finished reading the second issue of Sonic Boom...



  • @accalia said:

    I'll respectfully disagree that ME is not a good game.

    Mass Effect is an ok game.

    The sequels are the bad part. Since they take all the Mass Effect world-building and character-building and shit all over it.

    And people who don't even notice that and just love the hell out of Mass Effect 2? I don't even know what to say about that type of person. Because it's awful, and blatant. I can only assume they were sleepwalking through the entire game. The kind of people you ask about a song's lyrics, and they respond, "oh I never listen to the lyrics" and you just sit there going, "WHAT THE HELL!"


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    I read it as Tails too. Then got disappointed when I clicked Reply To and found out it wasn't about anything Sonic related.


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    @blakeyrat said:

    I can only assume they were sleepwalking through the entire game. The kind of people you ask about a song's lyrics, and they respond, "oh I never listen to the lyrics" and you just sit there going, "WHAT THE HELL!"

    Fuckin' A! Do you mean to say that different people are interested in different things?



  • It would be like if Sonic 2 had Sonic just stomp all over the little cute critters that come out of Eggman's jails and spread the blood all over himself and at the end of the game Sonic crashes the Death Egg into the happy sunny valley killing everybody, and there were legions of fans going, "Sonic 2 is such a good game everybody!" That's what it's like.



  • @boomzilla said:

    Fuckin' A! Do you mean to say that different people are interested in different things?

    What's the point of playing a story-heavy game if you don't pay attention to what's happening in the story? What's the point to listening to a song with lyrics if you don't listen to the lyrics? I have little respect for anybody who does either of those things.

    I don't care if they want to critique the work or not, fine, whatever, but at least pay attention to what it's telling you.


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    @blakeyrat said:

    What's the point of playing a story-heavy game if you don't pay attention to what's happening in the story?

    Is there other stuff in the game, or is it just a story?

    @blakeyrat said:

    What's the point to listening to a song with lyrics if you don't listen to the lyrics?

    Because it's enjoyable music. Some music I enjoy I enjoy the lyrics a lot, others something about the music is more entertaining.

    @blakeyrat said:

    I have little respect for anybody who does either of those things.

    No doubt they're rankled in the extreme.

    @blakeyrat said:

    I don't care if they want to critique the work or not, fine, whatever, but at least pay attention to what it's telling you.

    Maybe it tells them something different than it tells you.


  • FoxDev

    @blakeyrat said:

    What's the point to listening to a song with lyrics if you don't listen to the lyrics?

    There are loads of songs I listen to without listening to the lyrics. Mainly because, when doing 70+ on the M6, it's slightly more preferable to spend that mental capacity on not crashing and dying in a massive fireball that closes the carriageway for seventeen years 😄



  • What I disliked about the ending sequence the most was that after dealing with [spoiler]the Geth and Quarians[/spoiler] is was instantly "Shit, shit, shit no more time better do the final mission now." No real lead in with the story. I mean by that point I had completed most of the side quests so it didn't matter, but it bothered me that there was no real lead in to that.



  • @boomzilla said:

    Is there other stuff in the game, or is it just a story?

    It's a Bioware (motto: "the games company that wishes it produced movies instead!") game so... there's very little else in the game. Nothing really worth commenting about.

    @boomzilla said:

    Because it's enjoyable music. Some music I enjoy I enjoy the lyrics a lot, others something about the music is more entertaining.

    Ok? But you're at least listening to them. I'm talking about the people who have heard a song 30 times and have never once listened to the lyrics.

    @boomzilla said:

    Maybe it tells them something different than it tells you.

    I don't see how that could possibly be the case with Mass Effect 2. It shits over its own backstory, it shits over your character, it shits over a lot of the world-building work that went on in the previous game, the game mechanic-story interconnect is atrocious...

    @RaceProUK said:

    There are loads of songs I listen to without listening to the lyrics. Mainly because, when doing 70+ on the M6, it's slightly more preferable to spend that mental capacity on not crashing and dying in a massive fireball that closes the carriageway for seventeen years

    Fucking British people, maybe that's the problem. Putting carriages on their freeways. Hey dumbshits, maybe when you have a thousand cars an hour driving at 60 MPH in 3 lanes keep this shit on a side-road:

    I'm surprised you aren't a fan of all those British games by British games companies like... uh... Lionhead? I guess? Maybe? Oh wait they've been closed for decades. Oh that studio that makes Bloodbowl, I guess? Fucking Croatia makes more video games than you jokers. Imagine FemShep with a British accent: "would you like some crumpets, my dear Krogan? Pip-pip! Cheerio! We'll just nip around to the Reapers and bob's your uncle!" All that great British science fiction. Space: 1999! The Starlost! Oh wait that was Canadian. Same difference.



  • Actual game deal: B2G1 free PC/PS4/Xbox One at Best Buy on Sunday which stacks with GCU (additional 20% off) which I was able to get for $14/4 years.


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    @blakeyrat said:

    Ok? But you're at least listening to them. I'm talking about the people who have heard a song 30 times and have never once listened to the lyrics.

    Some of them. I also listen to music as a background thing and don't care at all. Or songs in a foreign language. I love Mariachi, but my Mexican is pretty shabby, and I have no clue what most of the stuff says.

    @blakeyrat said:

    I don't see how that could possibly be the case with Mass Effect 2. It shits over its own backstory, it shits over your character, it shits over a lot of the world-building work that went on in the previous game, the game mechanic-story interconnect is atrocious...

    Sorry, this was another of those metaphors. Maybe they enjoyed other aspects of the game. Reading these posts reminds me of listening to Sheldon on the Big Bang Theory (and no, I don't care if you find it funny or not).

    @blakeyrat said:

    Fucking British people, maybe that's the problem. Putting carriages on their freeways.

    +N



  • @hungrier said:

    I had heard that 1 and 2 were worthwhile and 3 was bad.
    I thought all three were at least good. I thought 1 was excellent overall, 3 was very good, and 2 was good.

    Different people have different orders depending on their focus though; there are a lot of people who would rank 2 on top and 1 on bottom. (That would be someone who cared about non-RPG gameplay more and the world-building and RPG gameplay less.)

    @accalia said:

    but accidentally [spoiler]triggering her suicide[/spoiler] was more of a shock.
    I didn't have to make the hard choice there. I figured I'd watch that ending on youtube, but I couldn't actually get through the scene.

    Also, I like how quoting a spoiler leaves it unspoiled by default. I guess spoilers aren't spoilers if they're quoted.



  • @EvanED said:

    Also, I like how quoting a spoiler leaves it unspoiled by default. I guess spoilers aren't spoilers if they're quoted.

    Nope. No formatting in a quote is ~standard Discourse behavior~ as per @CodingHorrorBot


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  • @JazzyJosh said:

    Nope. No formatting in a quote is ~standard Discourse behavior~

    Plus I'm pretty sure the spoiler tag stuff is a plug in.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    Except that, in a typical show of Discoursistency, if you click the Reply button then the Quote whole post button, it includes the spoiler.

    @accalia said:

    yeah. but accidentally [spoiler]triggering her suicide[/spoiler] was more of a shock.

    @discoursebot



  • @loopback0 - Days Since Last Discourse Bug: 0


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @accalia said:

    there's nominally 3 endings you can get

    There's 4.

    _Sure you can't figure it out yourself?_You can shoot the kid in the head for the fourth ending. [spoiler]It's the Bad End.[/spoiler]

  • FoxDev

    @dkf said:

    There's 4.

    i knew that one too. i wanted to be vague to avoid unecessary spoilers. ;-)



  • @loopback0 said:

    Except that, in a typical show of Discoursistency, if you click the <img src="/uploads/default/10776/563c206efdbf113f.png" width="102" height="34" alt="Reply"> button then the <img src="/uploads/default/10777/e1dd7725d9097881.png" width="20" height="17" alt="Quote whole post"> button, it includes the spoiler.

    @discoursebot


    I didn't even know about the quote button!

    I was going to trim that quote down to the relevant bit, but I think I'll leave it.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @EvanED said:

    I think I'll leave it.

    It captures Discourse quoting perfectly.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    The sequels are the bad part. Since they take all the Mass Effect world-building and character-building and shit all over it.

    The choices not really mattering is unfortunate. What characters and world building do they wreck?



  • Pretty much EVERYTHING!?

    My personal favorite is their excuse for why guns have limited ammo suddenly. That one really twists your brain around when you think about it. (And to make things extra-dumb, it's a gameplay change not really related to the story-- but they mention it in the story, thus adding about a million plotholes to their game for no reason.)



  • Well yeah that was dumb, but it was clearly just to explain the gameplay change.


  • kills Dumbledore

    A stupid gameplay change



  • Also making grenades and ammo into powers. You can't change ammo types or throw grenades if you are tired from Biotics.


  • FoxDev

    @KillaCoder said:

    You can't change ammo types or throw grenades if you are tired from Biotics.

    So you can't change from AP to incendiary rounds because of something that sounds totally unrelated?

    Never played Mass Effect; I'm just pulling words out of my arse ☺


  • FoxDev

    @RaceProUK said:

    So you can't change from AP to incendiary rounds because of something that sounds totally unrelated?

    basically... yeah. it was an odd gameplay choice.

    but since i usually always stick with AP rounds and find grenades unreliable at best (in all games. too often friendly AI has a habit of standing on top of a mis-thrown one (or running out to stand on top of a well thrown one)) it doesn't affect me often



  • @KillaCoder said:

    Well yeah that was dumb, but it was clearly just to explain the gameplay change.

    THAT IS MY EXACT POINT.

    By explaining a gameplay change in universe, in the story, they suddenly added a billion plotholes to their story. In one fell swoop, they have the audience asking:

    • Wait, if Cerebus has all these resources, can't I get my hands on some of the old-style of weapon if I want? (No you can't. Why not? You can't even ask. Railroading!)

    • Wait, the entire galaxy switched to this new weapon in only a few years? How did they even MANUFACTURE that many? Much less DISTRIBUTE them? Here in our reality, armies are still equipping soldiers with weapons designed in 1911 and manufactured in the 70s. (Weapons don't change design often, and can last basically forever when stored well.)

    • Wait, I'm in a facility that Cerebus lost control of 20 years ago or whatever and has been out-of-contact with everybody. WHY ARE THEY EQUIPPED WITH THE NEW STYLE OF WEAPON AND NOT THE OLD!

    They could have solved all of these problems by simply not mentioning the change in-universe at all. This is when you know you're dealing with really quality creators: they make their product worse by doing more work.



  • Especially since ammo is so plentiful that you maybe have to change to another gun for a minute or so to build it back up.



  • @accalia said:

    friendly AI

    In Skyrim I've had a lot of times where just as I'm releasing an arrow, my follower runs in front of me to attack the enemy I'm aiming at, taking 3x damage because it's a "sneak attack".


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