More (brief) Upper-Echelon WTF
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I'm just going to post this snippit of an email from my boss verbatim...
make sure that http://www.oursite.com and www.oursite.com have are set up properly for all of our sites
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Can do, boss!
(All your base are belong to us.)
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Reminds me of my "Windows 2000 administration" instructor, who claimed the "www" in "http://www.oursite.com" specifies that the browser should use the "www protocol".
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Give me a month and I'll replace our URLs with Uniform Resource Locators.
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Even better! Upgrade all your URLs to URIs! And replace any squares in your layout with equilateral rectangles!
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@merreborn said:
Reminds me of my "Windows 2000 administration" instructor, who claimed the "www" in "http://www.oursite.com" specifies that the browser should use the "www protocol".
Here at (insert major gov't agency name) we basically have a policy of making sure that the "www" host works, but never bothering to configure a default host, so that when you go to http://agency.gov it fails miserably. The feds get SO confused when things don't have the www in front.
That also sounds like my CIS 101 instructor at a local community college too. "The WWW means what part of the internet you're on... the World Wide Web." Then I tried to explain how it's actually more like that in the reverse order, with the top-level domain on the end, then the domain, then the host (www, mail, forums, whatever). She would have NONE OF IT! She also said that "domains like .tv are for television stations" and wouldn't tolerate any insolence about the country code for Tuvalu. Oooh, and she also described wireless networks as having a big loop of wire in the ceiling around the room with the wireless, and access control at places like Starbucks being achieved by "not letting you in the room with the wireless." And Bluetooth was that little infrared port on the front of your computer. And Linux has no GUI, so STAY AWAY!
This was coming from a PhD. Ah, the memories.
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[quote user="djork"]
That also sounds like my CIS 101 instructor at a local community college too. "The WWW means what part of the internet you're on... the World Wide Web." Then I tried to explain how it's actually more like that in the reverse order, with the top-level domain on the end, then the domain, then the host (www, mail, forums, whatever). She would have NONE OF IT! She also said that "domains like .tv are for television stations" and wouldn't tolerate any insolence about the country code for Tuvalu. Oooh, and she also described wireless networks as having a big loop of wire in the ceiling around the room with the wireless, and access control at places like Starbucks being achieved by "not letting you in the room with the wireless." And Bluetooth was that little infrared port on the front of your computer. And Linux has no GUI, so STAY AWAY!
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And that's why they're a 101 instructor. :)
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I read somewhere, once, that sites that started with "www" are "on the World Wide Web" and the rest of the sites are not on the World Wide Web but are still part of the Internet. I didn't understand any of that.
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[quote user="djork"][quote user="merreborn"]
Reminds me of my "Windows 2000 administration" instructor, who claimed the "www" in "http://www.oursite.com" specifies that the browser should use the "www protocol".
[/quote]Here at (insert major gov't agency name) we basically have a policy of making sure that the "www" host works, but never bothering to configure a default host, so that when you go to http://agency.gov it fails miserably. The feds get SO confused when things don't have the www in front.
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Sounds like a lot Finnish towns configure their server (and at least some schools). For some reason, it's almost always that the site is running IIS. With sites running Apache, I rarerly see that kind of problem. I have never used IIS personally, so I don't know how well they have managed to hide the feature.
Quoting our town's site when you don't use www (I can't remeber how many times I have forgot it when I wanted to just check the bus timetables...):
Microsoft OLE DB Provider for SQL Server error '80040e14'
Incorrect syntax near the keyword 'AND'.
/contentparser.asp, line 59
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Hey, it's not the site's fault that it has a crappy admin!
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[quote user="DWalker59"]I read somewhere, once, that sites that started with "www" are "on the World Wide Web" and the rest of the sites are not on the World Wide Web but are still part of the Internet. I didn't understand any of that.[/quote]
It's good that you don't understand it because it's wrong. www is a subdomain and only refers to the current site you are on. www is used because it's a standard somebody thought up a long time ago. Sites that don't work without www are run by idiots.
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actually, you're wrong, too.
www.foo.com is supposed to point to the world wide web server for foo.com.foo.com is neither required or recommended to even have an A record.RTFRFC.that said foo.com for everything I run is a CNAME to www.foo.com. :(
