Badge suggestions - ones with added thought


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    Semi-official topic for the suggestion of new badge types. Please read the rest of the first post...

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    Continuing the discussion from The Official "Likes" Thread: http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/the-official-likes-thread/1000/2367...

    @PJH said:

    There are lots of titles being suggested for the badges, but I've been seeing very little in the way of criteria for awarding them.. think I'll start another thread with the requirements for suggestions.


    Requirements topic for your suggestions. Your template to copy/paste is:

    Bronze name:
    Bronze requirements: 
    
    Silver name: 
    Silver requirements: 
    
    Gold name: 
    Gold requirements: 
    
    Icon name:
    Multiple awards:
    

    The bronze/silver/gold names are the short titles for the awards which will appear in post headers and as short descriptions in the left column at http://what.thedailywtf.com/badges. Names between types apparently can be the same, but I'm sure you can be creative and make them sufficiently different...

    The requirements will be used as criteria for awarding the badge, and will appear in the middle column of http://what.thedailywtf.com/badges

    The icon name should be selected from http://fortawesome.github.io/Font-Awesome/icons/ - please try to avoid the 4.1 version icons at the top of that page for the moment since I don't think DC has upgraded FA recently. DC updated to 4.1.0.

    Multiple awards is whether people can have more than one of them or not.

    For example, for the liked posts awards:

    Bronze name: Nice Post
    Bronze requirements: Received 10 likes on a post

    Silver name: Good Post
    Silver requirements: Received 25 likes on a post

    Gold name: Great Post
    Gold requirements: Received 100 likes on a post

    Icon name: fa-certificate
    Multiple awards: Yes

    There will, no doubt, be circumstances where it won't make sense to have 'levels' of award. But make it clear anyway if you feel/it is the case.


    Note that this is to get firm ideas for badges rather than the free-for-all random suggestions that seems to be going on else-threads.

    And no - just because you make a suggestion here, doesn't mean it'll actually get implemented. As pointed out previously, these awards will have to be manually awarded...


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  • @PJH said:

    The bronze/silver/gold names are the short titles for the awards which will appear in post headers and as short descriptions in the left column

    Are there long names/titles available anywhere? Also, if "Multiple awards" is "No," can bronze, silver and gold be still be separately awarded?


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    @HardwareGeek said:

    Are there long names/titles available anywhere?

    No. The form I have available to fill out is:

    @HardwareGeek said:

    Also, if "Multiple awards" is "No," can bronze, silver and gold be still be separately awarded?

    Yes - you can have one of each.

    Though normally (but not enforced, certainly not in software) I wouldn't normally expect anyone to get (say) Gold without first meeting the criteria for Silver and Bronze first.



  • @HardwareGeek said:

    Also, if "Multiple awards" is "No," can bronze, silver and gold be still be separately awarded?

    If it works like SO, then yeah, I think there is no actual tie between bronze, silver, and gold version of a badge. It just makes sense to have a bronze badge be "smaller" than a gold one.

    Also, do we go for the objectively assignable stuff, or can we actually get "Blakeyrant", "Pedantic dickweedery" and "Worst of the Worst" badges?


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    @Maciejasjmj said:

    or can we actually get "Blakeyrant", "Pedantic dickweedery" and "Worst of the Worst" badges?

    If you can somehow subjectively/objectively squeeze them into a 3-tier series of awards with coherent requirements, I'd probably be more inclined to give them some credence...

    IOW, possibly.


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    Do bear in mind I'm playing this by ear at the moment, and have no idea how big the hole I'm digging either is at the moment, or is likely to be if I decide this is a very bad idea and drop it totally...



  • @PJH said:

    if I decide this is a very bad idea and drop it totally...

    This could be the best outcome for us early abusers, since we could get these badges before they are no longer awarded.



  • @boomzilla said:

    This could be the best outcome for us early abusers, since we could get these badges before they are no longer awarded.

    Agreed. I'm already one step ahead of the game. Behold my glorious title badge thing!


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    @boomzilla said:

    This could be the best outcome for us early abusers, since we could get these badges before they are no longer awarded.

    May I draw your attention to the right hand edge of this image...



  • Don't think I didn't notice you and @Nagesh showing that shit off all over the forum.


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    And me! Don't forget me!!



  • @boomzilla said:

    Don't think I didn't notice you and @Nagesh showing that shit off all over the forum.

    @PJH said:

    And me! Don't forget me!!

    Can we have a category that everyone else can see, but only us special badge people can post in?



  • You're an admin, so you already have your trophy. I don't begrudge you having a title.



  • On second thought, I'm not sure if I want to be part of topics in which @Nagesh represents a third of the possible contributors...



  • @Keith said:

    us special badge people

    My 7 year old likes your avatar. He's the only reason I know what it is.



  • @boomzilla said:

    My 7 year old likes your avatar. He's the only reason I know what it is.

    Your 7 year old is super cool. His buildings are safe for now.

    Edit: Hold on, you let a 7 year old view TDWTF forums? I'm pretty sure that's child abuse.



  • Bronze name: Pedantic Dickweed of the Most Honourable Order of the Bath
    Bronze requirements: Awarded at the discretion of the Sovereign (or His/Her designated assistants (moderators)). Peasants may nominate worthy posts by flagging said posts for moderator attention.

    Silver name: Pedantic Dickweed of the Most Noble Order of the Garter
    Silver requirements: Awarded at the discretion of the Sovereign (or His/Her designated assistants (moderators)). Peasants may nominate worthy posts by flagging said posts for moderator attention.

    Gold name: Pedantic Dickweed of the Most Perverse Order of the Purple Dildo
    Gold requirements: Awarded at the discretion of the Sovereign (or His/Her designated assistants (moderators)). Peasants may nominate worthy posts by flagging said posts for moderator attention.

    Icon name: The most suitable one would be, I think, fa-graduation-cap, but that's one of the new ones. (Any chance of DC upgrading FA, @sam?) Of the older ones, fa-book is maybe the best.
    Multiple awards: No

    Edit: BUG: FA has no purple dildo icon


    Edit(PJH):
    http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/badges/1494/10?u=pjh



  • @Keith said:

    Your 7 year old is super cool. His buildings are safe for now.

    We only let him play on a server I run locally, so they're safe whether you want them to be safe or not. He, OTOH, seems to have a thing about breaking stuff.


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    @Keith said:

    Can we have a category that everyone else can see, but only us special badge people can post in?

    No. Settings are largely based on user levels plus staff categories:



  • @boomzilla said:

    so they're safe whether you want them to be safe or not

    I meant from creeper attack.



  • @PJH said:

    No. Settings are largely based on user levels plus staff categories

    I suppose you're going to have to make @Nagesh and me moderators =/.



  • @PJH said:

    a 3-tier series of awards with coherent requirements

    Pretty much the only thing you can reasonably 3-tier are the "x likes", "x posts", "x days" stuff. Boooooring.

    But hell, I'll try.

    Bronze name: Kindling a flame
    Bronze requirements: Start a thread with 50 replies
    
    Silver name: We changed the topic anyway
    Silver requirements: Start a thread with 150 replies
    
    Gold name: PARADE!
    Gold requirements: Start a thread with 300 replies
    
    Icon name: fa-fire
    Multiple awards: yes
    
    Bronze name: WONTFIX
    Bronze requirements: Have your thread locked
    
    Icon name: fa-lock
    Multiple awards: no (maybe? whatever?)
    
    Bronze name: Well, it's a beta
    Bronze requirements: Vocally support Discourse 1 time
    
    Silver name: Stockholm Syndrome
    Silver requirements: Vocally support Discourse 3 times
    
    Gold name: Jeff's Sockpuppet
    Gold requirements: Vocally support Discourse 5 times
    
    Icon name: fa-heart(-o)
    Multiple awards: no
    
    Silver name: The Derailer
    Silver requirements: Derail a thread for at least 50 posts
    
    Icon: fa-code-fork
    Multiple awards: yes(?)
    
    Silver name: The Rat's Apprentice
    Silver requirements: Evade Discourse's civil discussion policy by posting an all-caps post
    
    Icon: fa-bullhorn
    Multiple awards: no
    

    And the last one I'm not sure how to count, but here we go:

    Bronze name: Filed Under
    Bronze requirements: Use 50 tags
    
    Silver name: I miss CS
    Silver requirements: Use 100 tags
    
    Gold name: We need a new tag cloud
    Gold requirements: Use 200 tags
    
    Icon name: fa-tags
    Multiple awards: no
    

    Edit(PJH):

    http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/badges/1494/11?u=pjh



  • I'm going to analyze my list and see if I can render the list down to an acheiveable list. With a few outliers for fun and profit.

    I can see these already being bronze badges.

    • troll
    • sock puppet

    But need some requirements.

    filed under: I know everyone will want a sock puppet badge


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    @Keith said:

    I suppose you're going to have to make @Nagesh and me moderators =/.

    Well there is the 'Frequent Flier's Lounge' concept mentioned here:


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    @Frank said:

    troll
    sock puppet

    Hmm. X number of (separate?) nominations for the former perhaps? X=5(b),50(s),500(g)?

    Second would have to be at least independently verifiable by an admin, with perhaps the recipient making it (b) obvious, (s) not at all obvious, (g) managing to make it for X posts, or Y days/weeks/monhts before being 'outed.' Possibly with opposing 'sock-puppet hunter' for the person to nominate (with reasons) the sockpuppet.

    e.g. Alice successfully sock-puppets as Bob for 3 months. Charles figures out at that point that Bob is actually Alice. Admin independantly verifies the fact somehow.
    Alice gets Gold Sockpuppet, Charles, for getting it, gets Gold Sockpuppet-Hunter.

    One Sockpuppet award for the original account that was the puppet, hunters can get multiple.

    Sounds like too much hard work though...



  • @PJH said:

    Sounds like too much hard work though...

    Maybe...once we get higher level stuff, the higher level posters can nominate / vote on badge awards in addition to admin granted badges. Obviously, that requires more DC development, but it gives an easy out for stuff that's harder to quantify.

    Maybe also builds Community.



  • My original criteria for sock puppet was like 10 posts in a row of 5-7 words or less. :)

    @Luhmann would auto-qualify.



  • +1 for over-thinking it into oblivion.


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    @Maciejasjmj said:

    Silver name: The Derailer
    Silver requirements: Derail a thread for at least 50 posts

    Icon: fa-code-fork
    Multiple awards: yes(?)

    I think my originally suggested name of Penny on the Track would make a good bronze version of this:

    Bronze name: Penny on the Track
    Bronze requirements: Derail a thread for at least 25 posts


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    Cool Story, Bro - replied to a post after obviously not reading it



  • @abarker said:

    Bronze name: Penny on the TrackBronze requirements: Derail a thread for at least 25 posts

    Gold name: The wrong kind of leaves
    Gold requirements: Stop a thread in its tracks for 24 hours.

    Edit: Not a serious suggestion btw >>.


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    Bronze name: New Look
    Bronze requirements: Change avatar

    Silver name: Keep 'em Guessing
    Silver requirements: Change avatar 12 times in a year

    Gold name: Shape Shifter
    Gold requirements: Change avatar 24 times in a year

    Master requirement for all three levels: Only one change per week will be counted. Also, the initial setting of the avatar would not count.

    Icon name: fa-users
    Multiple awards: no


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    On an unrelated note, what is up with the wall of preview-text on this topic:

    Filed Under: Let's derail this topic to preview-texts being TRWTF | Also, always have > 100 unread posts when taking screenshots! It adds plausibility


  • :belt_onion:

    So how much control is there for the requirements? Some of mine would be a pain to count and award manually.



  • @Keith said:

    Edit: Not a serious suggestion btw >>.

    Why not?



  • @Frank said:

    My original criteria for sock puppet was like 10 posts in a row of 5-7 words or less. :)

    @Luhmann would auto-qualify.

    Don't forget @Nagesh.



  • I have that remark about a lot of what was suggested here. Very nice suggestions but a little heavy on the counting/maintenance side. Requirements should really be clear and not fuzzy. How far does a post to be 'derailed' to count for the requirement? Is just taking the parallel track enough our do you need to do a 180 degree turn. And what if pull a 360?



  • Why in $Diet's name am I named in one breath with @Nagesh ? That stuff is insulting man. Even worse than making fun of Belgium.


    Filled under: BELGIUM!



  • You weren't mentioned in the same breath. @Frank mentioned you, @Luhmann, then I mentioned @Nagesh .

    Oops. Now you've been mentioned in the same breath as @Nagesh.


  • area_deu

    You could eat @Luhmann so he won't ever have to hear himself get mentioned alongside @Nagesh again!



  • @Luhmann said:

    That stuff is insulting man. Even worse than making of Belgium.

    You should feel honoured that you are becoming like me.



  • Name: Discourse Survivor
    Requirements: Was an active poster in CS, is still an active poster in Discourse
    Icon name: fa-comment
    Multiple awards: no

    We could assign different levels based on how many posts have been made in Discourse or how long they've been active after the transition.


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    @abarker said:

    Change avatar

    Difficult to track I'm afraid....

    @Kuro said:

    On an unrelated note, what is up with the wall of preview-text on this topic:

    I'll have a play with the text of that first post to see if I can improve it...

    @Onyx said:

    So how much control is there for the requirements? Some of mine would be a pain to count and award manually.
    Any tracking would normally be manual - see avatar suggestion above.


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    @PJH said:

    @abarker said:
    Change avatar

    Difficult to track I'm afraid....

    Feature request! Ability to track avatar changes per user.



  • @abarker said:

    @PJH said:
    Difficult to track I'm afraid....

    Feature request! Ability to track avatar changes per user.

    Not desirable, since it is useless.


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    @PJH said:

    @Kuro said:
    On an unrelated note, what is up with the wall of preview-text on this topic:

    I'll have a play with the text of that first post to see if I can improve it...

    Nope. I tried to copy the format of the default first post when creating a new category of:

    [summary text to appear in summary]
    
    
    Rest of post to be read when clicked
    

    but that didn't work as expected. @Sam? Any way of indicating the cut-off point for the summary in the topic list for a pinned topic?


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    @Kuro said:

    On an unrelated note, what is up with the wall of preview-text on this topic:

    Hacked with the (ab)use of multiple  . Not exactly desirable, but looks a bit better...



  • @PJH said:

    Hacked with the (ab)use of multiple  . Not exactly desirable, but looks a bit better...

    You know, you can always unpin it and the WoT goes away...


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    @Maciejasjmj said:

    You know, you can always unpin it and the WoT goes away...

    Or you could unpin it yourself. For yourself only that is...


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