Poll: Default poll item count limit

• Continuing the discussion from We think there should be a limit on poll entries:

We need a poll so people can vote on the poll option limit. We'll need an option for each number between 1* and +∞.

* For the dictators among us.

Shall we start with some sort of binary search?

Note that this is for the default setting without admin intervention.

The suggestion being that admins can increase or decrease the limit on a board-by-board basis if the default is.... unsatisfactory... for some reason.

[poll]

• (0 - 1]
• (1 - 2]
• (2 - 4]
• (4 - 8]
• (8 - 16]
• (16 - 32]
• (32 - 64]
• (64 - 128]
• (128 - 256]
• (256 - 512]
• (512 - 1,024]
• (1,024 - 2,048]
• (2,048 - 4,096]
• (4,096 - 8,192]
• (8,192 - 16,384]
• (16,384 - 32,768]
• (32,768 - 65,536]
• (65,536 - 131,072]
• (131,072 - 262,144]
• (262,144 - 524,288]
• (524,288 - 1,048,576]
• (1,048,576 - 2,097,152]
• (2,097,152 - 4,194,304]
• (4,194,304 - 8,388,608]
• (8,388,608 - 16,777,216]
• (16,777,216 - 33,554,432]
• (33,554,432 - 67,108,864]
• (67,108,864 - 134,217,728]
• (134,217,728 - 268,435,456]
• (268,435,456 - 536,870,912]
• (536,870,912 - 1,073,741,824]
• (1,073,741,824 - 2,147,483,648]
• (2,147,483,648 - 4,294,967,296]
• (4,294,967,296 - 8,589,934,592]
• (8,589,934,592 - 17,179,869,184]
• (17,179,869,184 - 34,359,738,368]
• (34,359,738,368 - 68,719,476,736]
• (68,719,476,736 - 137,438,953,472]
• (137,438,953,472 - 274,877,906,944]
• (274,877,906,944 - 549,755,813,888]
• (549,755,813,888 - 1,099,511,627,776]
• (1,099,511,627,776 - 2,199,023,255,552]
• (2,199,023,255,552 - 4,398,046,511,104]
• (4,398,046,511,104 - 8,796,093,022,208]
• (8,796,093,022,208 - 17,592,186,044,416]
• (17,592,186,044,416 - 35,184,372,088,832]
• (35,184,372,088,832 - 70,368,744,177,664]
• (70,368,744,177,664 - 140,737,488,355,328]
• (140,737,488,355,328 - 281,474,976,710,656]
• (281,474,976,710,656 - 562,949,953,421,312]
• (562,949,953,421,312 - 1,125,899,906,842,624]
• (1,125,899,906,842,624 - 2,251,799,813,685,248]
• (2,251,799,813,685,248 - 4,503,599,627,370,496]
• (4,503,599,627,370,496 - 9,007,199,254,740,992]
• (9,007,199,254,740,992 - 18,014,398,509,481,984]
• (18,014,398,509,481,984 - 36,028,797,018,963,968]
• (36,028,797,018,963,968 - 72,057,594,037,927,936]
• (72,057,594,037,927,936 - 144,115,188,075,855,872]
• (144,115,188,075,855,872 - 288,230,376,151,711,744]
• (288,230,376,151,711,744 - 576,460,752,303,423,488]
• (576,460,752,303,423,488 - 1,152,921,504,606,846,976]
• (1,152,921,504,606,846,976 - 2,305,843,009,213,693,952]
• (2,305,843,009,213,693,952 - 4,611,686,018,427,387,904]
• (4,611,686,018,427,387,904 - 9,223,372,036,854,775,808]
• (9,223,372,036,854,775,808 - 18,446,744,073,709,551,615]
• (18,446,744,073,709,551,615 - ∞)
• FILE_NOT_FOUND
[/poll]

• This may be the first time that I've voted for something other than FILE_NOT_FOUND when it was an option.

I think we should support up to, but not including, ∞ poll options.

• 64 should be enough for everybody

• You mean 264

• Shall we start with some sort of binary search?

We should do a binary search to get at the limit for poll options before browsers start producing Stop Script prompts.

• With giant polls it's also currently impossible to see the results. Maybe we need a way to summarize the actual votes, skipping all the options with no votes.

• Maybe have it sortable by either option or vote count...

More a feature request at this point though I think, considering the other problems that we found last night...

• You mean 264

Or 2128, so we can have a “What is your IPv6 address” poll.

• I'm missing "(more than ∞)".

• With giant polls it's also currently impossible to see the results. Maybe we need a way to summarize the actual votes, skipping all the options with no votes.

+1. Too many choices only tend to confuse the voters. With zero options, however, casting your vote is really easy!

Edit: Oh, you mean only for displaying the results. Fine here, I certainly wouldn't change my vote to vote for an option no one else has voted for. Can't be a good choice, that one, if it is so unpopular.

• I'm missing "(more than ∞)".

You mean you want ℵ1 options? You even understand how absurd that is?

Filed under: ℵ options…

• @faoileag said:
I'm missing "(more than ∞)".

You mean you want ℵ1 options? You even understand how absurd that is?

*sigh*. I knew I should have picked some markup from [here][1].

• Well, I am aiming to get the Pedantic Dickweed achievement on DC. Once it exists.

• Well, I am aiming to get the Pedantic Dickweed achievement on DC. Once it exists.

Better be quick then, before...

http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/where-did-your-user-name-come-from/989/24?u=pjh

• i am the stalin

its me

• @dkf said:
Well, I am aiming to get the Pedantic Dickweed achievement on DC. Once it exists.

Better be quick then, before...

dhromed sid:
He shall vanish and be purged from the records.

In that case it will be a posthumous lifetime achievement award.

• I choose 100. Judging from the phobia poll, there shouldn't be any performance issues yet. And 100 should be more than enough options for any serious (and many non-serious) polls.

• 100 should be enough for anyone.

Filed under, that's what she said, Bill Gates.

• You mean you want ℵ1 options? You even understand how absurd that is?

Having an infinite continuous set of options seems nice, but the radio button selection currently used in polls will not be sufficient.
Filed under: That’s just another GUI element to reinvent, though

• Having an infinite continuous set of options seems nice, but the radio button selection currently used in polls will not be sufficient.

We need a Cantor Control in HTML5.

• Having an infinite continuous set of options seems nice, but the radio button selection currently used in polls will not be sufficient.

A dropdown element would be great - hey, if it works with 200+ country names, why not use it for infinite choices in a poll?

• Just because it works doesn't mean it works well. When all you have is a hammer etc. etc.

But then we'll have room for the next TDWTF article, which will become a five part miniseries if we give it to Erik.

• Use Avogadro's constant.

• infinite choices in a poll?

I'd hate to be the guy assigned to sign off on the test for that feature.

• A dropdown element would be great - hey, if it works with 200+ country names, why not use it for infinite choices in a poll?

Infinni-Poll™ to the rescue!!!

• You mean you want ℵ1 options?

No, I want ℵ1 options.

• Now you're just being awkward.

EDIT: Hey, wait, tab-enter actually handles proper form submission?! You mean that one instance of hijacking the browser works as expected?!?!?!

• No, I want ℵ1 options.

Funnily enough [digressing here] it's an open question as to whether that makes sense; we don't know whether the set of Cantor transfinite numbers is countable or not; it's coupled to the continuum hypothesis. Here's a quick summary for beginners: if ℵ1 is the number of points between 0 and 1 on the Real Line, then there are ℵ0 transfinite numbers, as indicated by their index (and in fact the index proves it as you can use it as a bijection to the members of ℤ (which, as any fule kno, has cardinality ℵ0). However, all we have actually proved (the last time I checked at least) is that the cardinality of the continuum is greater than ℵ0 and no more than ℵ1

The transfinites are fun, though the ones beyond ℵ1 are a bit brain-bending.

• The transfinites are fun

For some values of fun.

Filed under: My brain melted.

• we don't know whether the set of Cantor transfinite numbers is countable or not

So you don't know if there are less or fewer numbers?

• Filed under: My brain melted.

This is actually the expected result of studying infinities.

Filed Under: You're doing it RIGHT

• This is actually the expected result of studying infinities.

Indeed. Look on the bright side, if you actually managed to comprehend any of the infinities, your brain would spontaneously collapse into a black hole and eventually consume the Earth.

• But how would Marvin cope? He's 50,000 times more intelligent than we are. Well, he's 50,000 times more intelligent than I am. I don't know about anyone else.

• His brain is the size of a planet, so the energy from the information is spread over a much larger volume. He still couldn't comprehend infinity though.

• Despite being at least twice the age of the universe?

• You're making me think too hard, I'm at risk of going full LHC.

• His brain is the size of a planet, so the energy from the information is spread over a much larger volume. He still couldn't comprehend infinity though.

`01111111100000000000000000000000` and `11111111100000000000000000000000` look pretty straightforward to me...

• Well, let's see how you cope with this, Mr. Big Shot:

hidden for the sake of everyone else's sanity... ∞ That's disappointingly small, but any sort of HTML or image inclusion seems to break spoilers...

• Not using Chrome breaks spoilers. See:

http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/spoilers/1026/1

• But how would Marvin cope? He's 50,000 times more intelligent than we are. Well, he's 50,000 times more intelligent than I am. I don't know about anyone else.

Didn't he get shot in the back of a car?

• No. He does get to see God's Last Message to His Creation before the light goes out in his eyes though.

It's been too long since I read Mostly Harmless to remember if he shows up there or not and if so, how come.

• No. He does get to see God's Last Message to His Creation before the light goes out in his eyes though.

It's been too long since I read Mostly Harmless to remember if he shows up there or not and if so, how come.

WHOOSH

Filed under: "Aww man I just shot Marvin in the face!"

• I thought he was Chuck Berry's cousin.

• I haven't seen Pulp Fiction in way too long to have gotten that joke straight off.

• I haven't seen Pulp Fiction in way too long to have gotten that joke straight off.

There you go. I actually had it on last night in the background as I was getting my desktop to not BSoD so I could pull code off of it from my last company to submit here.

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