Is it time for a new Firefox thread yet?



  • @Ben L. said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    Thermidor

    Ew, what the hell did they do to Wikipedia?

    Turned it from "the encyclopedia anyone can edit" into an exclusionist court of editors--whose machinations, back-biting and dehumanizing adherence to political correctness makes the French Revolution look positively liberal--that maintain an iron grip over the anime and lightsaber articles all the while mass-deleting articles where the topic does not lend itself to a "discussion" page littered with ugly, public displays of passive aggressive sniping from anal-retentive nerds.


    Oh, were you criticizing the font choices?



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @Ben L. said:
    @morbiuswilters said:
    Thermidor

    Ew, what the hell did they do to Wikipedia?

    Oh, were you criticizing the font choices?



  • @flabdablet said:

    I'm considering cutting the school over to Palemoon to avoid the howls of outrage from my user population once I'm forced to move off Firefox 26ESR, but I'd want to be assured it had some kind of future first. If I understand Mozilla's plans correctly, they're removing a whole bunch of stuff from the underlying UI toolkit that's of no futher use to Asstralis. Seems to me that at some point Palemoon would have to diverge from the Firefox codebase enough that keeping the fixes up to date would overwhelm some guy in Sweden.

    There's a "coloni bathing in the aqueducts" quality to your predicament.



  • @Ben L. said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    @Ben L. said:
    @morbiuswilters said:
    Thermidor

    Ew, what the hell did they do to Wikipedia?

    Oh, were you criticizing the font choices?

    You're like the guy aboard the Titanic who thinks it's cute to give directions to the lifeboats entirely in inscrutable palindrome.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Ben L. said:

    Ew, what the hell did they do to Wikipedia?
    Could you be a little bit more exact? With words, and not just a screen-grab, since the rest of us don't seem to have such a problem with it.



  • @dkf said:

    @Ben L. said:
    Ew, what the hell did they do to Wikipedia?
    Could you be a little bit more exact? With words, and not just a screen-grab, since the rest of us don't seem to have such a problem with it.

    They changed all the fonts for no reason. Also, that article has 100pt text in it for no reason.



  • @Ben L. said:

    They changed all the fonts for no reason.

    Oh dear! Now typesetting your articles by-hand is going to take hours! Oh, cruel Wikipedia, how could you be so callous?



  • Oh morbs, how I've missed you. contented sigh



  • @mikeTheLiar said:

    Oh morbs, how I've missed you. contented sigh

    I wish I could believe that, but your name literally contains the word "liar". discontented sigh



  • @Ben L. said:

    @dkf said:
    @Ben L. said:
    Ew, what the hell did they do to Wikipedia?
    Could you be a little bit more exact? With words, and not just a screen-grab, since the rest of us don't seem to have such a problem with it.

    They changed all the fonts for no reason. Also, that article has 100pt text in it for no reason.
    You're so right. And it used to be such a good-looking website... Tragic. Simply tragic.



  • @mikeTheLiar said:

    Oh morbs, how I've missed you. contented sigh
    No, don't praise him. This is all his fault for giving them a link to Wikipedia in the first place. In my day, you dropped a Thermidor reference apropos of nothing and left the plebs to Google it in confusion.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @mikeTheLiar said:
    Oh morbs, how I've missed you. contented sigh

    I wish I could believe that, but your name literally contains the word "liar". discontented sigh

    Some say Alduin is Akatosh, some say Mike is a Liar. Don't you believe either of those things.


  • @Ben L. said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    @mikeTheLiar said:
    Oh morbs, how I've missed you. contented sigh

    I wish I could believe that, but your name literally contains the word "liar". discontented sigh

    Some say Alduin is Akatosh, some say Mike is a Liar. Don't you believe either of those things.

    So I haven't played video games in quite some time. Looks like the industry made the natural transition into soft-core furry porn. That's good, nobody was paying for fun games any more, anyway.



  • @bstorer said:

    @mikeTheLiar said:
    Oh morbs, how I've missed you. contented sigh
    No, don't praise him. This is all his fault for giving them a link to Wikipedia in the first place. In my day, you dropped a Thermidor reference apropos of nothing and left the plebs to Google it in confusion.

    You forget yourself. Look where we are: if I hadn't included a link there would have been twenty replies asking if I meant "thermite", "Thermaltake" or "Gnome T(h)erminal".



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    I meant "thermite"

    No, you meant "marmite"



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @Ben L. said:
    @morbiuswilters said:
    @mikeTheLiar said:
    Oh morbs, how I've missed you. contented sigh

    I wish I could believe that, but your name literally contains the word "liar". discontented sigh

    Some say Alduin is Akatosh, some say Mike is a Liar. Don't you believe either of those things.

    So I haven't played video games in quite some time. Looks like the industry made the natural transition into soft-core furry porn. That's good, nobody was paying for fun games any more, anyway.


    To be fair, he used to look like this:

    So it's hardly a new thing.



  •  Which raises the question: how do games modellers determine whether they can use those 500 extra polygons to model everything in their world as hardware progresses?



  • @dhromed said:

     Which raises the question: how do games modellers determine whether they can use those 500 extra polygons to model everything in their world as hardware progresses?

    I didn't even notice the two had a difference in quality until you said something. Then again, maybe I was trying not to look that hard.

    We're already well past the point where game designers have knee-capped fun and pushed it in front of a bus in favor of focusing all of their time on what gaming is really about: terrifyingly detailed renderings of their fursonas. "We could make a game that's innovative and people might want to play, or we can make a game where you shoot things or play a fucking elf again*, but hey at least it will look like a full-motion cutscene. Oh, and most of the gameplay will just be pawing at the controller to advance a linear plot. It's like watching a movie that makes you fill out its tax return to advance to the next 30 seconds of Bradley Cooper looking like a smug cunt."

    You know what: to hell with the gaming industry.


    (*In 100 years this will be all that's left of Tolkien's legacy: ruining the RPG forever.)



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    We're already well past the point where game designers have knee-capped fun and pushed it in front of a bus in favor of focusing all of their time on what gaming is really about: terrifyingly detailed renderings of their fursonas. "We could make a game that's innovative and people might want to play, or we can make a game where you shoot things or play a fucking elf again*, but hey at least it will look like a full-motion cutscene. Oh, and most of the gameplay will just be pawing at the controller to advance a linear plot. It's like watching a movie that makes you fill out its tax return to advance to the next 30 seconds of Bradley Cooper looking like a smug cunt."
    Which is probably why the best game from last year had you playing as a border control officer for a fascist dictatorship. But that raises the other trend in gaming today: the indie approach of using all that computing horsepower to display 8-bit graphics in some sort of paen to their wasted youth.


  • BINNED

    So as this is still technically a Firefox thread...
    Today's update greeted me with this lovely dialog. Not resizable but the taskbar said the window title is "Software Update"

    [IMG]http://s1.directupload.net/images/140405/riyfwbg7.png[/IMG]



  • @topspin said:

    So as this is still technically a Firefox thread...
    Today's update greeted me with this lovely dialog. Not resizable but the taskbar said the window title is "Software Update"


    OK



  • @dhromed said:

    Which raises the question: how do games modellers determine whether they can use those 500 extra polygons to model everything in their world as hardware progresses?

    They start high and ramp down as needed. Unless they're Blizzard, in which case they start low and say "fuck graphics!!!"



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Unless they're Blizzard, in which case they start low and say "fuck graphics!!!"
     

    That's just the Diablo and WoW teams. Starcraft 2 looks fine.

     

    Some people say that Torchlight looks better than Diablo III.

     

    AHAHAHAHAHAHA



  • @dhromed said:

    Some people say that Torchlight looks better than Diablo III.

    Torchlight 2 does look better than Diablo III. It has this thing called... what was it, I know I've heard it before... oh yeah: COLOR. So stuff actually looks like stuff, instead of looking like a film student's badly-developed pretentious sepia-tone masterpiece.

    EDIT: To be clear, Torchlight 2 is definitely not higher-res than Diablo III, the whole game's like 1.5 GB. But it also definitely looks better.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    sepia-tone
     

    What? D3 is exactly as colourful as T2. There's no sepia-tone stuff that I can think of. Why do you think so?

    @blakeyrat said:

    But it also definitely looks better.

    I definitely disagree. It's a lot flatter and lower-poly.

     



  • @dhromed said:

    What? D3 is exactly as colourful as T2.

    Don't even bring Tribes 2 into this, you WHORE!

    @dhromed said:

    There's no sepia-tone stuff that I can think of. Why do you think so?

    Because I've played it? (Stupidly. What a fucking terrible game.)

    @dhromed said:

    I definitely disagree. It's a lot flatter and lower-poly.

    And yet Diablo III's color palette is so muted and boring, Torchlight 2 still looks way better.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Diablo III's color palette is so muted and boring
     

    And the sky is green!


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @dhromed said:

    D3 is exactly as colourful as T2. There's no sepia-tone stuff that I can think of.
    There's a few bits in some of the cut-scene-y bits between action. But that's obviously just some sort of artistic choice, not any kind of technical limitation, especially as some of the other cut scenes are quite colourful indeed (and none of that's “in-engine”).

    The first chapter of Grim Dawn is even gloomier, but again that's just art-style.



  • @dkf said:

    not any kind of technical limitation
     

    wha?



  • @dkf said:

    But that's obviously just some sort of artistic choice, not any kind of technical limitation,

    Ok look, Blizzard might not be at the forefront of graphics engine development, but you still seriously think they're dealing in indexed colors!??!!??!?!??!!

    Or phrased slightly differently, OF COURSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARTISTIC CHOICE DUH!!!



  • What the fuck is it with FOSS projects creating and re-creating their own programming languages? We all know C/C++ suck every donkey dong on the planet, but inventing a new language to circumvent the problems inherent in these languages is much like stabbing yourself in the face to solve a burst appendix.

    I'm not going to suggest they use Java, because of its inherent shittiness, nor C#, because that would require FOSStards to make rational decisions. (Semi-related aside: you can now compile .NET code to native code and run it on any machine without the CLR installed.) Given the plethora of languages out there, there must have been ONE they could have picked that would've done the job, without the need to reinvent the wheel AGAIN.

    But again... FOSS... rational decisions... never the twain shall meet. And I guess Brandon Eich has to do something when he's not voting for laws against human dignity.



  • On an unrelated note, anyone want to invent a completely new language that does nothing, post it to all the coding hipster sites, and see how long it takes Ben L. to start talking about it here? We could have a betting pool.



  • @The_Assimilator said:

    On an unrelated note, anyone want to invent a completely new language that does nothing, post it to all the coding hipster sites, and see how long it takes Ben L. to start talking about it here? We could have a betting pool.

    Hey guys let's use HQ9+- for our business logic.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @The_Assimilator said:

    What the fuck is it with FOSS projects creating and re-creating their own programming languages?
    The problem isn't in creating your own language. The problem is in trying to force someone else to use it, especially if you've only got bupkis for a USP.



  • @dkf said:

    bupkis for a USP.
    I'm going to go with you meaning "unique selling point", although "user-shitting plan" first popped to mind.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Zecc said:

    @dkf said:
    bupkis for a USP.
    I'm going to go with you meaning "unique selling point", although "user-shitting plan" first popped to mind.
    I'm going to be stuck thinking that for ages now! Thanks.



  • @The_Assimilator said:

    And I guess Brandon Eich has to do something when he's not voting for laws against human dignity.

    Don't give up the fight, Brother: Pervert Rights won't be fully-enshrined until a person can choose to marry Rosie O'Donnell. And then be eaten by her.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    person can choose to marry Rosie O'Donnell. And then be eaten by her.

    Stop reading my dream journal.



  •  Firefox 29 has been crashing once or twice a day since I updated. It used to happen once a week. Is this really the end of a long and happy relationship? It might be.



  • @LoremIpsumDolorSitAmet said:

     Firefox 29 has been crashing once or twice a day since I updated. It used to happen once a week. Is this really the end of a long and happy relationship? It might be.

    "He used to hit me once a week, now it's once or twice a day. He still loves me, though.."


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