Physically destroy IT equipment to contain malware
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@eViLegion said:
Fair enough, that's actually pretty clever. Except the bit about British police.
The terrifying thing is that it might still be apt.
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@joe.edwards said:
@Ronald said:
No collection of debts? How do they keep civil society goi…?Yeah and in Dallas they shoot people for trespassing
You can even lawfully shoot the repo man.in librariesOh. Texas. Never mind.
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@dkf said:
Filed under: I know a few folks from Texas but they're from round Austin…
Ugh, The People's Republic of Austin. That's the turd in the ointment.
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@dkf said:
@joe.edwards said:
You can collect debts. You can't step onto my property uninvited to do so, without a court order.@Ronald said:
No collection of debts? How do they keep civil society goi…?Yeah and in Dallas they shoot people for trespassing
You can even lawfully shoot the repo man.in librariesOh. Texas. Never mind.
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@joe.edwards said:
You can collect debts. You can't step onto my property uninvited to do so, without a court order.
That's not true. Repo men absolutely can step onto your land to recover property. And even in Texas, you'll probably be charged with agg assault if you shoot at them, if not attempted murder. And you better hope you don't kill him because then it's murder and Texas has no problem with using the needle.
True, one guy got away with it two decades ago, based on a 19th century Texas law that gave people the right to shoot strangers taking property at night, but I doubt most courts would see it the same way. Fuck, I doubt most juries would even see it the same way.
But you certainly don't have a right to shoot at repo men who are obeying the law. All you have is a very slight chance you might get away with it.
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It's pretty much hearsay, but I have heard several [unreliable] sources say that you can shoot anyone who steps on your land without permission. I've definitely seen several "trespassers will be shot on sight" signs posted, and never saw fit to test them - perhaps just it's just a psychological trick.
I also watched a television show where repomen were having to be stealthy to recover some unpaid farm equipment, and they seemed genuinely afraid of being caught. Of course you can't believe anything you see on TV, but if it's a myth it's a well-perpetuated one in these parts. (And I'd still be afraid of rednecks who don't know that it's a myth.)
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@joe.edwards said:
It's pretty much hearsay, but I have heard several [unreliable] sources say that you can shoot anyone who steps on your land without permission. I've definitely seen several "trespassers will be shot on sight" signs posted, and never saw fit to test them - perhaps just it's just a psychological trick.
I also watched a television show where repomen were having to be stealthy to recover some unpaid farm equipment, and they seemed genuinely afraid of being caught. Of course you can't believe anything you see on TV, but if it's a myth it's a well-perpetuated one in these parts. (And I'd still be afraid of rednecks who don't know that it's a myth.)
In Texas repo men are allowed on your property if the item to repo is there, but bounty hunters are not.
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@joe.edwards said:
It's pretty much hearsay, but I have heard several [unreliable] sources say that you can shoot anyone who steps on your land without permission.
No, you can't. You can only use lethal force when your life (or the lives of others) are threatened. That, or if your property is threatened in some way that would be severe. (For example, you couldn't shoot kids smashing your mailbox, but if someone is trying to set your house on fire, you could shit him.) This is true even in Texas. The difference is that other states usually have fewer legal protections for someone defending himself (although this is changing with the adoption of castle doctrine.) For example, there are still some jurisdictions where a homeowner has a responsibility to retreat in the face of a home invasion. That means if you "stand your ground" and shoot an intruder, you will be charged with unlawful killing.
@joe.edwards said:
I've definitely seen several "trespassers will be shot on sight" signs posted, and never saw fit to test them - perhaps just it's just a psychological trick.
It most definitely is a trick. You could shoot an unlawful home invader (although you probably still want to give them a chance to surrender, lest it turn out they aren't as unlawful as you think.)
@joe.edwards said:
I also watched a television show where repomen were having to be stealthy to recover some unpaid farm equipment, and they seemed genuinely afraid of being caught.
Well, for one, reality TV plays up every tense moment. However, I can nearly guarantee you that it is entirely staged--television productions have to be insured. Can you imagine the insurance costs for a show based on civilian repo men trying to reclaim farm equipment from Texas rednecks? If one of the cast members was shot, the studio could be sued for millions. Nobody would insure a show like that.
That said, they still don't want to get caught. You can't shoot a repo man, but you can ask him to leave, and in most states he has to comply. Usually it works like this: if they can take possession of the vehicle or whatever, then it's theirs. If they get caught by the property owner before than and asked to leave, they have to try again later. (Also, they can't break locks, cut chains, or go into your garage. They basically have to be able to walk up and take the vehicle and go.)
@joe.edwards said:
And I'd still be afraid of rednecks who don't know that it's a myth.
Oh yeah, repo men get shot all the time, especially in areas like Texas where this myth survives. However, the shooters are taken into custody and charged with a crime.
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@El_Heffe said:
- Madonna -> Bacon -> Monty Python
Madonna was in Shanghai Surprise with Sean Penn
Sean Penn was in Mystic River with Kevin Bacon
Kevin Bacon was in Novocaine with Keith David
Keith David was in Hollywood Homicide with Eric Idle- John Wayne -> Bacon -> Monthy Python
John Wayne was in The Longest Day with Robert Wagner
Robert Wagner was in Wild Things with Kevin Bacon
Kevin Bacon was in My Dog Skip with Diane lane
Diane Lane was in Chaplin with Kevin Kline
Kevin Kline was in A Fish Called Wanda with Michael Palin and John CleeseAnd one of those actors played a character with my exact name.
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@Zemm said:
And one of those actors played a character with my exact name.
What the fuck kind of parent names their son "Archbishop Arthur Nudge"?!
I mean, I sure, it was funny. Both the Python skit and the name. But to curse a child with that?
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@NoOneImportant said:
@Zemm said:
And one of those actors played a character with my exact name.
What the fuck kind of parent names their son "Archbishop Arthur Nudge"?!
I mean, I sure, it was funny. Both the Python skit and the name. But to curse a child with that?
I see that you've been to the Monty Python School of Comedy. I can tell because I understood that you made a joke but I did not find it funny.
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@morbiuswilters said:
@joe.edwards said:
It's pretty much hearsay, but I have heard several [unreliable] sources say that you can shoot anyone who steps on your land without permission.
No, you can't. You can only use lethal force when your life (or the lives of others) are threatened.
Or if a prostitute took your money and won't have sex with you. The key seems to be that it happens at night.
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@boomzilla said:
Or if a prostitute took your money and won't have sex with you.
Quite a looker isn't he? Wonder why she didn't want to have sex with him...
On an unrelated note - the story's apparently inconsistent, why was he facing jail for 'killing her in 2009' when her parents didn't actually pull the plug on the life support until 2010?
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@morbiuswilters said:
you could shit him.
That, I'd love to see.
Purely in the interests of research, of course.
@PJH said:
why was he facing jail for 'killing her in 2009' when her parents didn't actually pull the plug on the life support until 2010?
I'm reading several inconsistent facts there:
- he "shot a Craigslist escort dead"
- she was "left paralyzed and brain damaged from the shooting"
- it was a "2009 Christmas Eve killing"
- her family "pulled the plug in July 2010".
- Lenora Ivie Frago, a Craiglist escort, who died in 2010
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@PJH said:
On an unrelated note - the story's apparently inconsistent, why was he facing jail for 'killing her in 2009' when her parents didn't actually pull the plug on the life support until 2010?
He shot her in December of 2009 causing fatal brain damage but she didn't die until seven months later.
That means that she qualified as a juror in Bexar county up until August of 2010. but it still counts as killing her even in Texas.
Unless of course she's half your size, looks vaguely Mexican and is running away at the time, then it's okay to shoot her in the back of the head with an assault rifle as long as it's dark out. It's self-defense and since it was nighttime she might have been a vampire, so what else could he have done?
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@DCRoss said:
she might have been a vampire
Did she look like this?
If so, she's a vampyre, and unless your bullet is made of silver, it won't do much except make her angry.
Shooting a silver bullet won't help much either since she probably has enough magical power to strangle you while she runs away.
