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    Today's lesson:

    Before you run del /S /Q C:\cygwin (since it conveniently has no uninstaller), remember if you have a junction point in C:\cygwin\home\username to C:\Users\username\Documents.

    If you don't, you're gonna have a bad time.


    Luckily this happened on the laptop I am currently moving out of, and I have ninja-like ctrl+C skills.



  • TRWTF is typing all that when you can just click on the folder and push delete.

    TRWTF is not having backups of shit you don't care about.

    TRWTF is laptops

    TRWTF is cygwin

    TRWTF is Windows

    TRWTF is not using symlinks

    TRWTF is that Windows allows you to delete files

    TRWTF is British people

    Okay, I think that's all of them. Oh wait, one more:

    TRWTF is it's my birthday and I'm celebrating by typing things into a chromebook with Community Server in the active window.



  • @Ben L. said:

    TRWTF is Windows
    XP
    FTFY

    Per this article:   A Junction Point should never be removed in Win2k, Win2003 and WinXP with Explorer or del /s commands, or with any utility that recursively walks directories since
    these will delete the target directory and all its subdirectories.
    Instead, use the rmdir command, the linkd utility, or a third party tool to remove the junction point
    without affecting the target.
    In Vista/Win7, it’s safe to delete Junction Points with Explorer or with the rdir and del commands.



  • @joe.edwards said:

    Today's lesson:

    Before you run del /S /Q C:\cygwin (since it conveniently has no uninstaller),

    Run setup.exe, go to the package chooser screen (in category view mode), click on the word "Default" next to the "All" category until it cycles to "Uninstall".

    Deletes all installed files while leaving your home dir, any user-created files etc. safely behind.

     


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    @DaveK said:

    Run setup.exe, go to the package chooser screen (in category view mode), click on the word "Default" next to the "All" category until it cycles to "Uninstall".

    Just like every other Windows program! I'd like to hear a blakeyrant about that one.

    Actually I was following this:
    [quote user="Cygwin FAQ"]

    2.19. How do I uninstall all of Cygwin?

    Setup has no automatic uninstall facility. The recommended method to remove all of Cygwin is as follows:

    1. If you have any Cygwin services running, remove by repeating the instructions in http://cygwin.com/faq/faq.html#faq.setup.uninstall-service for all services that you installed. Common services that might have been installed are sshd, cron, cygserver, inetd, apache, postgresql, and so on.

    2. Stop the X11 server if it is running, and terminate any Cygwin programs that might be running in the background. Exit the command prompt and ensure that no Cygwin processes remain. Note: If you want to save your mount points for a later reinstall, first save the output of mount -m as described at http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using-utils.html#mount.

    3. Delete the Cygwin root folder and all subfolders. If you get an error that an object is in use, then ensure that you've stopped all services and closed all Cygwin programs. If you get a 'Permission Denied' error then you will need to modify the permissions and/or ownership of the files or folders that are causing the error. For example, sometimes files used by system services end up owned by the SYSTEM account and not writable by regular users.

      The quickest way to delete the entire tree if you run into this problem is to change the ownership of all files and folders to your account. To do this in Windows Explorer, right click on the root Cygwin folder, choose Properties, then the Security tab. If you are using Windows XP Home or Simple File Sharing, you will need to boot into Safe Mode to access the Security tab. Select Advanced, then go to the Owner tab and make sure your account is listed as the owner. Select the 'Replace owner on subcontainers and objects' checkbox and press Ok. After Explorer applies the changes you should be able to delete the entire tree in one operation. Note that you can also achieve this in Cygwin by typing chown -R user / or by using other tools such as CACLS.EXE.

    4. Delete the Cygwin shortcuts on the Desktop and Start Menu, and anything left by setup.exe in the download directory. However, if you plan to reinstall Cygwin it's a good idea to keep your setup.exe download directory since you can reinstall the packages left in its cache without redownloading them.

    5. If you added Cygwin to your system path, you should remove it unless you plan to reinstall Cygwin to the same location. Similarly, if you set your CYGWIN environment variable system-wide and don't plan to reinstall, you should remove it.

    6. Finally, if you want to be thorough you can delete the registry tree Software\Cygwin under HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE and/or HKEY_CURRENT_USER. However, if you followed the directions above you will have already removed everything important. Typically only the installation directory has been stored in the registry at all.

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  • @Ben L. said:

    TRWTF is it's my birthday and I'm celebrating by typing things into a chromebook with Community Server in the active window.

    No, TRWTF is that turning 18 doesn't allow you to do anything exciting in the US. Go buy a pack of smokes and a Playboy. Then throw that shit in the garbage because if you don't smoke already you really shouldn't start, and Playboy? The internet is full of porn already. I suppose you could read the articles.


    Luckily where I grew up the drinking age was 18. OTOH, I had been drinking in the same bar since I was 15, so turning 18 didn't allow me to do anything exciting. Make of this tale what you will.



  • @mikeTheLiar said:

    No, TRWTF is that turning 18 doesn't allow you to do anything exciting in the US.

    In some jurisdictions you can buy a gun, although in other jurisdictions the age is lower.

    You're missing the biggest one: he can enter into contracts now. He can open his own bank accounts and even drown himself in debt!

    @mikeTheLiar said:

    Luckily where I grew up the drinking age was 18.

    The only thing 21 gives you is drinking, and if you wait until you're 21 to drink, you're a pussy.



  • @mikeTheLiar said:

    No, TRWTF is that turning 18 doesn't allow you to do anything exciting in the US.

    Voting is a big deal if you were raised with even a basic understanding politics.  Enlistment without parental consent is also big.



  • @locallunatic said:

    Voting is a big deal...

    HA HA HA, good one!



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @locallunatic said:
    Voting is a big deal...
    HA HA HA, good one!

    Sorry, looking back I should have qualified that with for local things (as less to drown you out and it's real easy to discourage voting in others).



  • @locallunatic said:

    @mikeTheLiar said:

    No, TRWTF is that turning 18 doesn't allow you to do anything exciting in the US.

    Voting is a big deal if you were raised with even a basic understanding politics.  Enlistment without parental consent is also big.


    And both sound like fantastic ways to celebrate your birthday!



  • @mikeTheLiar said:

    And both sound like fantastic ways to celebrate your birthday!

    Would you prefer no chance that you'll be charged as a minor?  That can make things exciting, depending on what else you are doing to celebrate.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @mikeTheLiar said:
    No, TRWTF is that turning 18 doesn't allow you to do anything exciting in the US.

    In some jurisdictions you can buy a gun, although in other jurisdictions the age is lower.

    You're missing the biggest one: he can enter into contracts now. He can open his own bank accounts and even drown himself in debt!

    I've opened my first bank account at age 16, have been renting my own apartment since I was 17 (though it might or might not have been legal, but nobody gave a fuck), and haven't been asked for an ID when buying a beer since about the age of 15. The only thing that turning 18 got me was an awesome party.

    So yeah, the closer you get to the legal age, the less of a big deal it becomes.



  • @joe.edwards said:

    remember if you have a junction point

    Its not just junction points (whatever they are???). I set up dropbox on my computer at home; pointed it to a folder that had a bunch of videos of my golden puppies (we show goldens, and had a litter 3 years ago). Later I needed some room on my HD, found I had two folders with the same videos in them, and deleted the contents of one of the folders. Whoops -- not really duplicates; 2 folders pointing to the same files. Good thing they were on dropbox.



  • @locallunatic said:

    Voting is a big deal if you were raised with even a basic understanding politics.  Enlistment without parental consent is also big.

    It bothers me a lot when someone who is 18 is in the news for committing a violent crime; and they call him a "teen". Technically yes, he's under 20; but in reality he is an adult just like everyone else. It also bothers me that the news people seem to choose what to call them -- "A teen was caught" or "a 18 year old man was caught" - makes one seem less serious than the other.



  • TRWTF is that everyone thinks someone born in '94 is turning 18 this year. Hint: 2013 is an odd number. 1994 is an even number.



  • @Maciejasjmj said:

    I've opened my first bank account at age 16, have been renting my own apartment since I was 17 (though it might or might not have been legal, but nobody gave a fuck), and haven't been asked for an ID when buying a beer since about the age of 15. The only thing that turning 18 got me was an awesome party.

    True, but the life expectancy of a male in Poland is, what, 28? 29? So you guys have to get a jump on that stuff.



  • @Ben L. said:

    TRWTF is that everyone thinks someone born in '94 is turning 18 this year. Hint: 2013 is an odd number. 1994 is an even number.

    Where would anyone get the idea you were 18? (And how the fuck is anyone supposed to know you were born in '94?)



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @Maciejasjmj said:
    I've opened my first bank account at age 16, have been renting my own apartment since I was 17 (though it might or might not have been legal, but nobody gave a fuck), and haven't been asked for an ID when buying a beer since about the age of 15. The only thing that turning 18 got me was an awesome party.

    True, but the life expectancy of a male in Poland is, what, 28? 29? So you guys have to get a jump on that stuff.

    It's a bit understated by all those kids we harvest our livers from.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @Ben L. said:
    TRWTF is that everyone thinks someone born in '94 is turning 18 this year. Hint: 2013 is an odd number. 1994 is an even number.

    Where would anyone get the idea you were 18? (And how the fuck is anyone supposed to know you were born in '94?)

    I was 18 a few days before the birthday where I turned 19? WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?



  • @Ben L. said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    @Ben L. said:
    TRWTF is that everyone thinks someone born in '94 is turning 18 this year. Hint: 2013 is an odd number. 1994 is an even number.

    Where would anyone get the idea you were 18? (And how the fuck is anyone supposed to know you were born in '94?)

    I was 18 a few days before the birthday where I turned 19? WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?

    Oh, you said in the past you were 17. So I figured you were 17-going-on-18, rather than 18-going-on-19.

    Edit: Aren't you still in HS, though? Did you just graduate?



  • Filed under: Goddammit so I didn't have to destroy those videos we made?

    Let's mourn for a while for this great loss to our community.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    Did you just graduate?



  • Judging by the baloon you've been given, it sure took you a long time to graduate from kindergarten.



  • @DrPepper said:

    It bothers me a lot when someone who is 18 is in the news for committing a violent crimeporn video I just downloaded; and they call him a "teen". Technically yes, he's under 20; but in reality he is an adult just like everyone else. It also bothers me that the news people video posters seem to choose what to call them -- "A teen was caught" or "a 18 year old man was caught" - makes one seem less serious worth downloading than the other.
     

     

    FTFY.

    (oh dear lord, I've been hanging around the sidebar way too long!)



  • @Ben L. said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    Did you just graduate?


    Ben L. MAHM! You can't take my picture without my over-sized novelty Groucho Marx glasses!


    Sturdy Midwestern US Woman Well why not?!? Dem folks down at Walmart needs to know just how smart my baby boy be!!!


    Ben L. But den dose people on The Daily Double-You Tee Eff forums will know what I's looks like!!!!



  • @mikeTheLiar said:

    Filed under: get a hair cut hippie

    I agree with whatever mikeTheLiar just said!



  • @mikeTheLiar said:

    Ben L. MAHM! You can't take my picture without my over-sized novelty Groucho Marx glasses!


    Sturdy Midwestern US Woman Well why not?!? Dem folks down at Walmart needs to know just how smart my baby boy be!!!


    Ben L. But den dose people on The Daily Double-You Tee Eff forums will know what I's looks like!!!!

    No, it's a requirement that all photos of TDWTF members include an edited-in Groucho Marx-style glasses-like object.



  • What's with these kids and their long hair
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  • @Ben L. said:

    No, it's a requirement that all photos of TDWTF members include an edited-in Groucho Marx-style glasses-like object.

    I don’t care to belong to any club that will have me as a member.



  • @El_Heffe said:

    What's with these kids and their long hair
                <br>

    That hippie must be from San Francisco




    You sure told'em right, Merle!</i.



  • @Ronald said:

    @El_Heffe said:

    What's with these kids and their long hair
                <br>

    That hippie must be from San Francisco




    You sure told'em right, Merle!

    As dorky as that song is, I'd take a hundred Okies over one filthy goddamn hippie.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    Ben L. looks like a younger‚ thinner‚ de-loused Richard Stallman.

    I was thinking Weird Al, but maybe that's just me.

    Also, happy birthday Ben. Congratulations on... y'know... continuing for longer.



  • @Ben L. said:

    TRWTF is that everyone thinks someone born in '94 is turning 18 this year. Hint: 2013 is an odd number. 1994 is an even number.

    I apologize for assuming you were turning 18. I thought that you weren't like me in the being near the year mark for schooling but dumb enough to be held back a year.



  • @aihtdikh said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    Ben L. looks like a younger‚ thinner‚ de-loused Richard Stallman.

    I was thinking Weird Al, but maybe that's just me.

    I'm pretty sure that's exactly the same thing.



  • @Ben L. said:

    TRWTF is it's my birthday and I'm celebrating by typing things into a chromebook with Community Server in the active window.

    Just think: you could be getting a union card and a wedding coat.



  • @pjt33 said:

    @Ben L. said:
    TRWTF is it's my birthday and I'm celebrating by typing things into a chromebook with Community Server in the active window.

    Just think: you could be getting a union card and a wedding coat.

    Are those kinky sex acts?



  • @Maciejasjmj said:

    I've opened my first bank account at age 16,
    DSW incoming - I opened my first account when I was 11. (Myself, not my parents.) Granted it was a savings account and I wasn't able to get credit or a check book, but it was my account, not one opened on my behalf by parents/guardians, and certainly not controlled by them.



  • @Ben L. said:

    @aihtdikh said:
    @morbiuswilters said:
    Ben L. looks like a younger‚ thinner‚ de-loused Richard Stallman.

    I was thinking Weird Al, but maybe that's just me.

    I'm pretty sure that's exactly the same thing.

     

    Weird Eric



  • @joe.edwards said:

    remember if you have a junction point in C:\cygwin\home\username to C:\Users\username\Documents.

    Why the F do you have such silly thing. I just told cygwin my home is C:\Users\username. In fact, I believe I didn't have to tell it; it told itself. And if you really need /home/username, you can just mount /home to c:/Users in cygwin (in c:/cygwin/etc/fstab since 1.7). Cygwin will understand it and windows programs need the path converted by cygpath anyway.



  • @Ben L. said:

    TRWTF is British people

    I know! It's well unfair how we get all the good Hollywood roles!

    @morbiuswilters said:

    @locallunatic said:
    Voting is a big deal...

    HA HA HA, good one!

    Awesome! Voting is a big deal, right up until you realise that 99% of the people who can vote are total fucking idiots. Then it becomes obvious what a naive idea democracy was.

    @Ben L. said:

    TRWTF is that everyone thinks someone born in '94 is turning 18 this year. Hint: 2013 is an odd number. 1994 is an even number.

    Yeah... what if it's a leap-millenium, where we add an extra year during February to make up for... er... this is going nowhere...



  • @eViLegion said:

    Awesome! Voting is a big deal, right up until you realise that 99% of the people who can vote are total fucking idiots.

    Please don't shatter my illusion that people are willingly ignorant rather than actually stupid.



  • @Liquid Egg Product said:

    @eViLegion said:
    Awesome! Voting is a big deal, right up until you realise that 99% of the people who can vote are total fucking idiots.

    Please don't shatter my illusion that people are willingly ignorant rather than actually stupid.

    False dichotomy!



  • @Ben L. said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    @Ben L. said:
    TRWTF is that everyone thinks someone born in '94 is turning 18 this year. Hint: 2013 is an odd number. 1994 is an even number.

    Where would anyone get the idea you were 18? (And how the fuck is anyone supposed to know you were born in '94?)

    I was 18 a few days before the birthday where I turned 19? WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?


    Here's a tip: nobody gives a shit how old you (or any of us) actually are. 18, 19, 27, 64...it doesn't fucking matter.


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    @Bulb said:

    Why the F do you have such silly thing.

    cd ~/documents seemed much more convenient than cd /cygdrive/c/users/username/documents. (Edit: Windows really should pick up on this syntax.)

    @Bulb said:
    I just told cygwin my home is C:\Users\username.

    That would have saved me a lot of trouble, if I'd known it was possible.

    @Bulb said:
    In fact, I believe I didn't have to tell it; it told itself.

    I wish mine had told itself.

    @Bulb said:
    And if you really need /home/username

    Wasn't my idea.



  • Except for Dr. Gene Ray. Everyone should know he is 82+ cancer.



  • @joe.edwards said:

    @Bulb said:
    I just told cygwin my home is C:\Users\username.

    That would have saved me a lot of trouble, if I'd known it was possible.

    If you wanna be all *nixy about it, just edit your home dir entry in /etc/passwd.  See also http://cygwin.com/faq/faq.html#faq.setup.home


  • That's exactly what I intended to type; thanks RichP.
    @RichP said:

    @DrPepper said:

    It bothers me a lot when someone who is 18 is in the news for committing a violent crimeporn video I just downloaded; and they call him a "teen". Technically yes, he's under 20; but in reality he is an adult just like everyone else. It also bothers me that the news people video posters seem to choose what to call them -- "A teen was caught" or "a 18 year old man was caught" - makes one seem less serious worth downloading than the other.
     

     

    FTFY.

    (oh dear lord, I've been hanging around the sidebar way too long!)



  • The other thing 18 gets you...

    That girl you been having sex with, that turns 18 two weeks later, now makes you a pedophile. It doesn't matter that you are only 2 weeks apart in age.



  • @KattMan said:

    The other thing 18 gets you...

    That girl you been having sex with, that turns 18 two weeks later, now makes you a pedophile. It doesn't matter that you are only 2 weeks apart in age.


    Reminds me of a joke I heard a long time ago:


    A cop sees a car parked by the side of the road late at night with two kids in it. Suspecting funny-business, he pulls over and walks up, and finds a young man reading a book and a young woman knitting. He says, "How old are you two?" Young man replies "I'm nineteen, and shes 18 in..." [checks watch] "twelve minutes."


    I didn't say it was a good joke.


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