It seems like the only software we ever talk about is Steam, Go, and Firefox... so here's Steam



  • How many games do I have!?????

    According to my Profile page:


    587!!!

    According to my "All Games" page:


    399!!!

    According to my Steam client software:


    347!!!

    Answer? I HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE!

    (Ok to be fair, the All Games page correctly says "items" instead of games, but I still don't get what "items" don't appear in All Games but do appear in Profile-- apps marked as "Tools" maybe? Just a guess.)



  • You have 374 "subscriptions" directly associated with your account (full games you have "paid" for and can install, in addition to whatever else you currently have installed.)

    If you add any games you've played but are not subscribed to (demos, tools, et cetera), that brings the total to 399.

    If you add any games you "own" by virtue of them being free to play, that brings the total to 587. Yes, that means there are nearly 200 F2P games on Steam, most of which are absolute crap.



  • I'd seen two of those counters before and always thought it was a games-only and a games+tools variance, though I never did bother to check.

    That third count just makes it all confusing again.

    Lately, instead of fixing their broken-ass system where

    • The updater can incorrectly update a game and you need to do an integrity check to fix it
    • Game integrity checks take forever and lock out the entire UI
    • TF2 automatically issuing integrity checks all the damn time
    • Still can't choose chat box font size
    • Can't open steam URLs in your default browser; steam hijacks them and uses its own, goddamn horrendous browser instead
    • The game overlay web browser is worse than IE6

    They have instead been implementing stupid ideas like trading cards.

    Here's a fun snippet from that article:

    If you gather another complete set of trading cards for the same game you can upgrade that game badge.
    [...] each badge you craft will increase your level.
    What are the direct benefits of my Steam Level?
    You get more options to customize your profile, and the maximum number of friends you can have on your friends list increases.
    Yes that's right, your maximum number of friends is now inversely proportional to how much of a social life you have.
    But hey, at least they increased the font size of the chat box in Windows. That has to count for something, right?



  • Nuke the clientregisterty.blob file and try again?



  • @TwelveBaud said:

    You have 374 "subscriptions" directly associated with your account (full games you have "paid" for and can install, in addition to whatever else you currently have installed.)

    If you add any games you've played but are not subscribed to (demos, tools, et cetera), that brings the total to 399.

    If you add any games you "own" by virtue of them being free to play, that brings the total to 587. Yes, that means there are nearly 200 F2P games on Steam, most of which are absolute crap.
     

     That's a lot of games. Steam's not that old, so Blakey has spent... 2 weeks on a game before moving on to another? I'd be tempted to suggest that it has something to do with his job, but we know that his work involves servers, and fitting the two into a single job description takes an imagination larger than mine.

    Unless he writes reviews as a hobby. Never forget the impact of odd hobbies on a person's profile.



  • @Salamander said:

    • Can't open steam URLs in your default browser; steam hijacks them and uses its own, goddamn horrendous browser instead

     

    AND, for whatever reason, any screenshots clicked in the steam store open up full-size in the default browser. Or at least they do for me.

     



  • Using Blakeyrats numbers he has 587 games+individual pieces of DLC tied to his steam account, he has 399 games + the few odd pieces of dlc that are treated as a game and he actually has access to 347 games at this moment.

    The WTF is that steam treats a piece of DLC as a game for the total on the profile page.



  • @OldCrow said:

    That's a lot of games. Steam's not that old, so Blakey has spent... 2 weeks on a game before moving on to another?

    Probably a third of those games I've never played. (Got them in cheap bundle deals with OTHER games I really wanted to play.)

    Probably another third I played for an hour or less, then decided they sucked ass and/or never ran correctly. For example, Hotline Miami which I've posted about here has supposedly this great soundtrack, but on my computer it doesn't play a peep of sound because it's a broken mess.

    I do "game reviews" in the sense that I do let's plays. I've bought maybe 20-30 games solely for that purpose. (Some of which I've never played-- like The Darkness II-- because we were doing commentary over Rantis' recorded footage.)

    @OldCrow said:

    I'd be tempted to suggest that it has something to do with his job, but we know that his work involves servers, and fitting the two into a single job description takes an imagination larger than mine.

    ... seriously? You can't think of reasons why games would need servers?

    But in any case, if they were for my job, they wouldn't be in my Steam account. I don't mix personal and job-related stuff. Not online accounts, not emails, not cellphones.



  • BTW I've thought of doing a solo let's play series which is just me going down my Steam games list in alphabetical order, and playing each game until I get sick of it. The sheer amount of games makes it a pretty daunting task though.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    It seems like the only software we ever talk about is Steam, Go, and Firefox
    And Java



  • @Salamander said:

  • The game overlay web browser is worse than IE6
  • Now we know you're trolling. There's no possible way for a Webkit based browser to be worse than IE6.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    I don't mix personal and job-related stuff. Not online accounts, not emails, not cellphones.

     

    Reminds me of a Futurama quote.  "I didn't know you had a wife."  "And my wife doesn't know I have a job!  I keep my personal and professional lives separate."
     

    Is it 'cause you don't want them finding out you're a raving lunatic furry, though?



  • @gu3st said:

    Now we know you're trolling. There's no possible way for a Webkit based browser to be worse than IE6.

    Have you ever used the early versions of Safari? Or worse; had to develop for them? IE6 atleast had predictable quirks of which some 90% or so could be worked around by knowing when to (and when not to) give an element 'layout'. Safari was a minefield in contrast.



  • @gu3st said:

    Now we know you're trolling. There's no possible way for a Webkit based browser to be worse than IE6.

    Have you ever actually tried using the overlay browser?
    IE6 may have been bad, but it was at least predictably bad and had more features than "Can look at a webpage (maybe)".
    I have actually seen the overlay browser crash on Google. That takes a very special kind of fail.



  • @gu3st said:

    @Salamander said:
  • The game overlay web browser is worse than IE6
  • Now we know you're trolling. There's no possible way for a Webkit based browser to be worse than IE6.

    Try developing for Android 2. Nope, it will never get better, not as long as Android 2 phones are extant (they'll be for a long time, nobody want to port their hacks to Android 4).



  • @Salamander said:

    @gu3st said:
    Now we know you're trolling. There's no possible way for a Webkit based browser to be worse than IE6.

    Have you ever actually tried using the overlay browser?
    IE6 may have been bad, but it was at least predictably bad and had more features than "Can look at a webpage (maybe)".
    I have actually seen the overlay browser crash on Google. That takes a very special kind of fail.

    In fact, i'm using it right now. I have IRC open in a tab, and a few other things. It works perfectly fine (as it should, being webkit after all).


    Maybe you should upgrade your 386 and the Overlay will run properly



  • You know. We wouldn't need the overlay in the first damn place if the games were actually written for a multitasking OS instead of for the Xbox 360.

    Just a thought.



  • @gu3st said:

    Now we know you're trolling. There's no possible way for a Webkit based browser to be worse than IE6.

    Have you used Safari? It sucked quite a bit until version 5.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @OldCrow said:
    I'd be tempted to suggest that it has something to do with his job, but we know that his work involves servers, and fitting the two into a single job description takes an imagination larger than mine.

    ... seriously? You can't think of reasons why games would need servers?

     

    Oh, I can think of several reasons why games could need servers. But I can not fathom how it would be a good idea to hire someone to play AND to maintain the servers. There'd be conflicting priorities, possibly favoritism in repair priorities, and a neverending suspicion that someone could be giving themselves a little boost in bonus points/achievements/etc..

     



  • A lot of games companies refuse to hire people unless they play games. Playing the games that the company makes is a big plus.



    Of course, it is expected that employees will be doing their work and not just playing. Of course, if representing the company they will expect the highest standards of courteous conduct, and no trolling of paying customers... but no games company is going to frown on their employees playing the games that they actually make and support... because that would be completely ridiculous.





  • @dhromed said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    broken link
     

    but but... I don't see any issues...

    I don't think there are any issues. blakeyrat just thinks there are because he's dyslexic.

     



  • @blakeyrat said:


    347!!!

    QFD



  • @boomzilla said:

    QFD
     

    ahhhh

     

    That's super-minor. I have that often with numbers with a 6 or 9.



  • @El_Heffe said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    It seems like the only software we ever talk about is Steam, Go, and Firefox
    And Java

    And CS.



  • @OldCrow said:

    There'd be conflicting priorities, possibly favoritism in repair priorities, and a neverending suspicion that someone could be giving themselves a little boost in bonus points/achievements/etc..

    EVE Online had some kind of controversy over that a couple years back, one of the server admins was playing favorites with one of the guilds in the game. But only sociopaths play EVE so.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @blakeyrat said:

    BTW I've thought of doing a solo let's play series which is just me going down my Steam games list in alphabetical order, and playing each game until I get sick of it. The sheer amount of games makes it a pretty daunting task though.

    People have done things that are roughly equivalently strange, like the CRPG addict, who's trying to do every PC CRPG rougly in order of release, and after 3 years is up to 1989.



  • @mikeTheLiar said:

    @El_Heffe said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    It seems like the only software we ever talk about is Steam, Go, and Firefox
    And Java

    And CS.
    And Webkit.

     



  • @drurowin said:

    @mikeTheLiar said:

    @El_Heffe said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    It seems like the only software we ever talk about is Steam, Go, and Firefox
    And Java

    And CS.
    And Webkit.

     

    We already said Firefox.



  • @dhromed said:

    I have that often with numbers with a 6 or 9.

    I can confirm this. The first time I suggested we have mutual oral sex, he just spooned me.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @dhromed said:
    I have that often with numbers with a 6 or 9.
    I can confirm this. The first time I suggested we have mutual oral sex, he just spooned me.

    Me too. I tried to phone an ambulance last week & I spent 3 hours on hold to the devil.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @dhromed said:
    I have that often with numbers with a 6 or 9.
    I can confirm this. The first time I suggested we have mutual oral sex, he just spooned me.

    And off topic, but I think it speaks volumes about the French that they gave up inventing sensible names for numbers after soixante-neuf



  • @lucas said:

    @gu3st said:
    Now we know you're trolling. There's no possible way for a Webkit based browser to be worse than IE6.

    Have you used Safari? It sucked quite a bit until version 5.

    I preferred Safari on Windows for the longest time. It wasn't until I ran into it having a stupid cache bug which made startup UNBAREBLY slow where I switched to Chrome. Had it not had that issue, I'd still use it (especially as Chrome is becoming more and more evil every day).



    The only reason I switched away from Safari on OS X was they changed the developer tools. Not that they're worse, I just didn't have the time (during heavy development) to learn them



  • @Ben L. said:

    @drurowin said:

    @mikeTheLiar said:

    @El_Heffe said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    It seems like the only software we ever talk about is Steam, Go, and Firefox
    And Java

    And CS.
    And Webkit.

     

    We already said Firefox.
    Wait, really?  Webkit != Firefox.

     



  • @gu3st said:

    Had it not had that issue, I'd still use it..

    I thought they stopped making Safari for Windows many years ago. Like, after that one user (you, apparently) went away..

    @gu3st said:

    (especially as Chrome is becoming more and more evil every day)

    [citation needed]



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @gu3st said:
    (especially as Chrome is becoming more and more evil every day)

    [citation needed]

    1. Chrome is not evil
    2. Chrome's evilness has not changed
    3. Chrome is not getting less evil
    4. QED: CHROME MUST BE GETTING MORE EVIL


  • @drurowin said:

    @Ben L. said:

    @drurowin said:

    @mikeTheLiar said:

    @El_Heffe said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    It seems like the only software we ever talk about is Steam, Go, and Firefox
    And Java

    And CS.
    And Webkit.

     

    We already said Firefox.
    Wait, really?  Webkit != Firefox.

     

    Yeah.

    BUT FOR HOW LONG?

    jarring chord



  • @Ben L. said:

    @drurowin said:

    @Ben L. said:

    @drurowin said:

    @mikeTheLiar said:

    @El_Heffe said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    It seems like the only software we ever talk about is Steam, Go, and Firefox
    And Java

    And CS.
    And Webkit.

     

    We already said Firefox.
    Wait, really?  Webkit != Firefox.

     

    Yeah.

    BUT FOR HOW LONG?

    jarring chord

    They're pretty proud of their rendering engine.  I'd say until Google offers them a cement mixer full of cash to migrate.

     



  • @drurowin said:

    They're pretty proud of their rendering engine.  I'd say until Google offers them a cement mixer full of cash to migrate.

    Google keeps giving Mozilla cement mixers full of cash anyways. They just need to cut them off so Firefox will finally die and Blink will reign supreme as the One True Engine.



  • @MiffTheFox said:

    @drurowin said:
    They're pretty proud of their rendering engine.  I'd say until Google offers them a cement mixer full of cash to migrate.

    Google keeps giving Mozilla cement mixers full of cash anyways. They just need to cut them off so Firefox will finally die and Blink will reign supreme as the One True Engine.

    Google DID stop. That's why Firefox defaults to Bing on the search bar now.



  • @Ben L. said:

    @MiffTheFox said:
    @drurowin said:
    They're pretty proud of their rendering engine.  I'd say until Google offers them a cement mixer full of cash to migrate.

    Google keeps giving Mozilla cement mixers full of cash anyways. They just need to cut them off so Firefox will finally die and Blink will reign supreme as the One True Engine.

    Google DID stop. That's why Firefox defaults to Bing on the search bar now.

    as of when

     



  • @drurowin said:

    @Ben L. said:

    @MiffTheFox said:
    @drurowin said:
    They're pretty proud of their rendering engine.  I'd say until Google offers them a cement mixer full of cash to migrate.

    Google keeps giving Mozilla cement mixers full of cash anyways. They just need to cut them off so Firefox will finally die and Blink will reign supreme as the One True Engine.

    Google DID stop. That's why Firefox defaults to Bing on the search bar now.

    as of when

     

    I don't remember where I got that idea. Sorry for the misinformation.



  • Mozilla experimented with Bing on the search bar because their contract with Google was about to expire. Google renewed it for another few years against all logic.



  • I don't know why Mozilla loves their rendering engine. It blows. Try any of the new 3d transform stuff and it's a glitchy piece of shit.


    As for google being more evil. The whole "Blink" thing is them stopping from giving back to the Webkit core so they can both make proprietary additions to the browser (which they do already with Native Client, and their Push notification system, etcera).

    They're not as "happy" as everyone thinks. They ruin good things in the quest to create a social network that nobody will use. Except for the Googlers and the Hipsters. Because a social network would be too mainstream if you could.. talk to people you know on it.



  • @gu3st said:

    I don't know why Mozilla loves their rendering engine. It blows. Try any of the new 3d transform stuff and it's a glitchy piece of shit.


    As for google being more evil. The whole "Blink" thing is them stopping from giving back to the Webkit core so they can both make proprietary additions to the browser (which they do already with Native Client, and their Push notification system, etcera).

    They're not as "happy" as everyone thinks. They ruin good things in the quest to create a social network that nobody will use. Except for the Googlers and the Hipsters. Because a social network would be too mainstream if you could.. talk to people you know on it.

    That's weird... I could have sworn I was just on a social network made by Google in an open-source Google browser reading some posts by Remy Porter and some other posts by other people from other communities. Well, I guess it was all a dream.

    Please do tell; what exactly did Google "ruin"?



  • @gu3st said:

    As for Apple being more evil. The whole "Webkit" thing is them stopping from giving back to the KHTML core so they can both make proprietary additions to the browser (which they do already with Canvas, etcera).



  • Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US) AppleWebKit/525.13 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/0.2.149.27 Safari/525.13



  • @MiffTheFox said:

    @gu3st said:
    As for Apple being more evil. The whole "Webkit" thing is them stopping from giving back to the KHTML core so they can both make proprietary additions to the browser (which they do already with Canvas, etcera).

    Except KDE are actually beginning to use WebKit. Never mind the story behind it was a lot of cooperation between KDE devs and Apple.



  • @Ben L. said:

    That's weird... I could have sworn I was just on a social network made by Google in an open-source Google browser reading some posts by Remy Porter and some other posts by other people from other communities.

    Those front-page people are all hipsters. And about the only other shit I ever see on G+ is from Googlers (or idiot tech writers who have drunk the Gool-Aid..)



  • @gu3st said:

    @MiffTheFox said:
    @gu3st said:
    As for Apple being more evil. The whole "Webkit" thing is them stopping from giving back to the KHTML core so they can both make proprietary additions to the browser (which they do already with Canvas, etcera).

    Except KDE are actually beginning to use WebKit. Never mind the story behind it was a lot of cooperation between KDE devs and Apple.

    Oh, I see. KHTML and WebKit being friends is ok because they aren't direct competitors, whereas iOS and Android are. I'm glad there's no mention of a direct competitor to Google's products getting help from Google. Oh wait, there are a few in this thread!


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