You can either accept this EULA or accept it



  • Setting up a new office computer for a coworker and I got this. I don't know exactly what it is, just appears to be Dell crapware nonsense.

    WTFs:

    1. Auto-launches right after login.
    2. No cancel button.
    3. No close "X" button.
    4. Window is always on top.
    Good thing I know how to use the Task Manager.

     

     



  • I have alt+shift+f2 bound to "brutally murder the next thing I click on". Having problems with a game eating your mouse cursor? The game is now gone. Accidentally opened Compute_Last_Digit_of_Pi? It never happened. Program reinterprets X button as "show save dialogue"? Dead.


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    presses alt+shift+f2

    hovers cursor over Ben L



  • @joe.edwards said:

    presses alt+shift+f2

    hovers cursor over Ben L

    Why would you kill a browser? SIGKILL doesn't work on organisms.


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    @Ben L. said:

    @joe.edwards said:
    presses alt+shift+f2

    hovers cursor over Ben L

    Why would you kill a browser? SIGKILL doesn't work on organisms.


    The documentation says it brutally murders, not sends a SIGKILL.



  • @Ben L. said:

    I have alt+shift+f2 bound to "brutally murder the next thing I click on". Having problems with a game eating your mouse cursor? The game is now gone. Accidentally opened Compute_Last_Digit_of_Pi? It never happened. Program reinterprets X button as "show save dialogue"? Dead.

    That sounds incredibly useful, how does one do that?



  • @Master Chief said:

    @Ben L. said:
    I have alt+shift+f2 bound to "brutally murder the next thing I click on". Having problems with a game eating your mouse cursor? The game is now gone. Accidentally opened Compute_Last_Digit_of_Pi? It never happened. Program reinterprets X button as "show save dialogue"? Dead.

    That sounds incredibly useful, how does one do that?

    With GNU/Linux, of course.



  • @Ben L. said:

    @Master Chief said:
    @Ben L. said:
    I have alt+shift+f2 bound to "brutally murder the next thing I click on". Having problems with a game eating your mouse cursor? The game is now gone. Accidentally opened Compute_Last_Digit_of_Pi? It never happened. Program reinterprets X button as "show save dialogue"? Dead.

    That sounds incredibly useful, how does one do that?

    With GNU/Linux, of course.

    Oh damnit, I assumed you were talking Windows. I know how to do it in Linux.



  • @joe.edwards said:

    @Ben L. said:
    @joe.edwards said:
    presses alt+shift+f2

    hovers cursor over Ben L

    Why would you kill a browser? SIGKILL doesn't work on organisms.


    The documentation says it brutally murders, not sends a SIGKILL.

    I stand correHRRNGH



  • @Ben L. said:

    I have alt+shift+f2 bound to "brutally murder the next thing I click on". Having problems with a game eating your mouse cursor? The game is now gone. Accidentally opened Compute_Last_Digit_of_Pi? It never happened. Program reinterprets X button as "show save dialogue"? Dead.

    Is that the same as or different than restart? Same question: reload?



  • @boomzilla said:

    @Ben L. said:
    I have alt+shift+f2 bound to "brutally murder the next thing I click on". Having problems with a game eating your mouse cursor? The game is now gone. Accidentally opened Compute_Last_Digit_of_Pi? It never happened. Program reinterprets X button as "show save dialogue"? Dead.

    Is that the same as or different than restart? Same question: reload?

    One of these things is not like the others. One of these things isn't the same. Can you tell me which thing is not like the others? That's how to play this game.

    Watermelon
    Watermelon
    blakeyrat's gall bladder
    Watermelon


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    Is it Watermelon?



  • @joe.edwards said:

    Is it Watermelon?
     

    Wrong. It's Watermelon.



  • @Lorne Kates said:

    @joe.edwards said:

    Is it Watermelon?
     

    Wrong. It's Watermelon.


    No, it's Watermelon.



  • I'd consult a physician about my gall bladder if I was blakey.



  • I'm guessing that Alt+F4 didn't work? source: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/126449?wa=wsignin1.0

    EDIT: FYI some of those don't work anymore (I'm looking at you Alt+F6)



  • @mott555 said:

    I don't know exactly what it is, just appears to be Dell crapware nonsense.
     

    What would happen if you clicked "Continue" without checking the "Yes I ALLOW" box?



  • @Cassidy said:

    @mott555 said:

    I don't know exactly what it is, just appears to be Dell crapware nonsense.
     

    What would happen if you clicked "Continue" without checking the "Yes I ALLOW" box?

    I'm guessing bugger all, since it'll either be disabled (doesn't look like it in the screenshot) or will simply be a no-op.



  • Gateway is worse- they want you to accept the Win8 EULA before you can access the BIOS settings; on first power-on, the machine boots straight into the Microsoft license agreement, with no option to change settings or even boot from another device.



  • @eViLegion said:

    I'd consult a physician about my gall bladder if I was blakey.

    I'd consult Blakey's gallbladder if I was a physician.



  • @SamC said:

    Gateway

    Looks like we've got another poddee coming off a decade-and-a-half hibernation..



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @SamC said:
    Gateway

    Looks like we've got another poddee coming off a decade-and-a-half hibernation..

     

    I got it as a gift, or, yeah, it damn well would've gone straight back to the store..

    After 2 hours on the phone with Gateway support (much of that on hold), they simply stated that you MUST accept the license agreement to access the BIOS (as the UEFI settings panel is on the "charms menu", whatever the hell that is). Wtf?

    I ultimately discovered by chance that yanking the battery at that screen gives you a "failed to boot" screen with a way to enter the BIOS.


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    @SamC said:

    @morbiuswilters said:

    @SamC said:
    Gateway

    Looks like we've got another poddee coming off a decade-and-a-half hibernation..

     

    I got it as a gift, or, yeah, it damn well would've gone straight back to the store..

    After 2 hours on the phone with Gateway support (much of that on hold), they simply stated that you MUST accept the license agreement to access the BIOS (as the UEFI settings panel is on the "charms menu", whatever the hell that is). Wtf?

    I ultimately discovered by chance that yanking the battery at that screen gives you a "failed to boot" screen with a way to enter the BIOS.


    You spent upwards of two hours trying to find a way to avoid agreeing to an dubiously-enforceable clickwrap EULA (presumably so that you could install a different operating system and thereby remove any record of whether you agreed or not)?



  • @joe.edwards said:

    You spent upwards of two hours trying to find a way to avoid agreeing to an dubiously-enforceable clickwrap EULA (presumably so that you could install a different operating system and thereby remove any record of whether you agreed or not)?

    I believe Dungeons and Dragons calls that "Lawful Good".



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @joe.edwards said:
    You spent upwards of two hours trying to find a way to avoid agreeing to an dubiously-enforceable clickwrap EULA (presumably so that you could install a different operating system and thereby remove any record of whether you agreed or not)?

    I believe Dungeons and Dragons calls that "Lawful Good".

    I was always Chaotic Neutral. I had a fanatical devotion to it, but I usually just ended up trying to murder every single thing we came across which would always result in my team dying pretty quickly.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    I was always Chaotic Neutral
     

    Ok.

    @morbiuswilters said:

    I had a fanatical devotion to it

    wait

    @morbiuswilters said:

    but I usually just ended up trying to murder every single thing we came across

    hu

    So you were Chaotic Evil. Admit it.

     

     



  • @dhromed said:

    So you were Chaotic Evil. Admit it.

    No, no, I tried to murder my own teammates, too.


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    @dhromed said:

    So you were Chaotic Evil.

    I've heard it explained that good and evil in D&D is more of a scale of selfless to selfish. Evil characters aren't bad per se, they're self-serving; in the end they only care about number one. The lawful/chaotic part of it informs you more about their homicidal/vigilante tendencies, and the good/evil their motivations behind it.

    I have no idea if this is true.



  •  That's evil!

    Or maybe just chaotic chaotic.



  • @dhromed said:

     That's evil!

    Or maybe just chaotic chaotic.

    Nope. If I was evil, I would pursue my own self-interest. Attacking level 27 NPCs when you're 5 minutes into a game is certainly not something that is in your own best interests. (However, it was pretty awesome when we managed to kill Elminster right out of the gate by convincing him to share a heroin needle with an HIV-infected junkie. We had a teammate with high charisma, an uncanny series of rolls and a very liberal DM.)

    No, my only goal as chaotic neutral was to maximize the entropy of the universe, no matter what it took.



  •  Sometimes I think tabletop D&D is a thing I should do sometimes.



  • @dhromed said:

     Sometimes I think tabletop D&D is a thing I should do sometimes.




    Just to be clear about it - "doing D&D" should not involve needles. Especially shared needles.

    Well, "out of character" at least.



  • @dhromed said:

     That's evil!

    Or maybe just chaotic chaotic.

    So instead of having a 3x3 grid, now we have a 5x5 grid, allowing such amazing combinations as:

    good lawful

    good evil

    chaotic lawful

    good good

    And the best part: evil chaotic and chaotic evil are distinct choices with very different meanings.



  • @joe.edwards said:

    @dhromed said:
    So you were Chaotic Evil.

    I've heard it explained that good and evil in D&D is more of a scale of selfless to selfish. Evil characters aren't bad per se, they're self-serving; in the end they only care about number one. The lawful/chaotic part of it informs you more about their homicidal/vigilante tendencies, and the good/evil their motivations behind it.

    I have no idea if this is true.

    Actually, the default interpretation of good and evil in D&D is absolute. At least, the way it is described in the players handbook.

    I believe in some supplement somewhere there was a chapter on making good and evil relative. This presented such interesting problems as 'what happens if I *smite evil* on this paladin, whom I believe to be evil, but whom thinks of himself as good'.

    Anyway, 'lawful good' can most easily be translated as 'lawful stupid'.



  •  The fact that law and chaos don't actually mean anything doesn't help.



  • @rampaging-poet said:

     The fact that law and chaos don't actually mean anything doesn't help.

    I will snap your neck.


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    @Aeolun said:

    Anyway, 'lawful good' can most easily be translated as 'lawful stupid'.
    “Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.”



  • I was hoping to talk about EULAs, but it seems that this has already become the D&D thread. Carry on.



  •  Perhaps this image will help you understand The Grid. I made it for a valentines contest a couple years ago, where you had to creatively complete the Shakespeare quote "Love sought is good, but...".  I won a box of fancy-ass chocolates.

    [img]http://sevenseventeen.ca/images/loveis.png[/img]

     



  • @MiffTheFox said:

    I was hoping to talk about EULAs, but it seems that this has already become the D&D thread. Carry on.

    It was just a fucking stupid joke, Christ. I hate this forum.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    It was just a fucking stupid joke, Christ. I hate this forum.
     

    GO BACK TO YOUR MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATRE, YOU UNFUNNY MAN



  • @Aeolun said:

    @joe.edwards said:
    @dhromed said:
    So you were Chaotic Evil.
    I've heard it explained that good and evil in D&D is more of a scale of selfless to selfish. Evil characters aren't bad per se, they're self-serving; in the end they only care about number one. The lawful/chaotic part of it informs you more about their homicidal/vigilante tendencies, and the good/evil their motivations behind it.

    I have no idea if this is true.

    Actually, the default interpretation of good and evil in D&D is absolute. At least, the way it is described in the players handbook.

    I believe in some supplement somewhere there was a chapter on making good and evil relative. This presented such interesting problems as 'what happens if I *smite evil* on this paladin, whom I believe to be evil, but whom thinks of himself as good'.

    Anyway, 'lawful good' can most easily be translated as 'lawful stupid'.

     

    Only if the player is stupid (or unimaginative, I should say) and doesn't know any other way to play it.

    You should read The Order of the Stick sometime. Roy, Durkon, Miko, and Hinjo are all Lawful Good, and they haev very different personalities and distinct character styles from each other.  One of the four (not going to spoil it for those who haven't read it) is most definitely "Lawful Stupid," but the other three certainly are not.

     



  • @dhromed said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    It was just a fucking stupid joke, Christ. I hate this forum.
     

    GO BACK TO YOUR MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATRE, YOU UNFUNNY MAN

    Man, everyone's in a bad mood this morning. Here:





  • @morbiuswilters said:

    Man, everyone's in a bad mood this morning.
     

    SHUT UP.



  • @dhromed said:

    @morbiuswilters said:

    Man, everyone's in a bad mood this morning.
     

    SHUT UP.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @MiffTheFox said:
    I was hoping to talk about EULAs, but it seems that this has already become the D&D thread. Carry on.

    It was just a fucking stupid joke, Christ. I hate this forum.

    Says the man with the 8,138 post count!  I can't imagine how awful the rest of your life must be for you to want to spend so much time somewhere you hate.

     

     


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