Information
-
On my Acer tablet, it is [i][b]literally impossible[/b][/i] to be sure if you just plugged a device into the audio jack.
I guess I'll just have to rely on keeping in memory the fact that I literally just now plugged headphones in and am now listening to sound now. What is this, fucking [i]Total Recall[/i]?
-
You just created a thread.
-
Acer tech support notes:
NOT_ENOUGH_NOTIFICATIONS flag = set;
-
Both a balloon and a new-style notification?
TRWTF.
A dialog popup?!
TRRWTF.
-
literally impossible
It's literally telling you 3 times. Your attempt at writing ironic or sarcastic pieces needs work, or there's something you should screenshot instead.
-
there's something you should screenshot instead.
I am entirely mystified by this part of your post.
-
This is what happens when the printer driver writers get laid off and picked up by the netcard/soundcard people.
Filed under: we need a new tag cloud to attack
-
This stuff also got more complicated with people having speakers and headsets and headphones stuff set to output different kinds of sounds.
-
That's true, but consider the usual use cases:
"I have two jacks, one ringed in green and one ringed in pink."
- "I plugged my {headphones | speakers} into the green one to {listen to stuff in private | annoy everyone}. I expect my computer to route all output to what I plugged in, and stop using the other stuff, since it's {less private | less annoying}."
- "I plugged my {mic | headset} into the pink one to scream a lot. I expect my computer to use what I plugged in for input, and stop using the other input, since it doesn't pick up my screams as well."
Neither of those need any kind of GUI, and if we're a DJ or @blakeyrat and need to do something more complex, Windows and OSX and Pulse already have perfectly serviceable GUIs for that. Just like Windows, OSX, and CUPS already had perfectly serviceable print queues that handled all sorts of status conditions before the "My Special Print Monitor" kudzu cropped up.
-
Do you have a pink and green input? Most mobile devices have a single one for both headphones and headsets.
Still, they're normally able to tell if it's a headset, and even if there's a profile specific to headphones (with different panning or stuff), they shouldn't shove the thing in your face.
-
My PC has about 6 jacks, and when you plug something in to any of them a window pops up asking which speaker/headphone it is. To its credit, it does remember what was selected last time that jack was used, so it's usually a matter of pressing OK and getting on with it
-
Mobile headset jacks have an extra prong for the microphone ring on the connector, and it's possible to determine electrically whether someone's plugged in a mobile headset (which has the extra ring) or headphones (where that's just part of the sleeve). No user irritation required.
-
Well that makes sense. Nobody remembers those colors anyway, and you can just plug the 5.1 set wherever and configure it sitting at your desk, instead of squatting under it.
Less so when you have one, or even two...
-
Windows drivers generally have a picture of the various jack colors and what they each do somewhere, usually under the device properties for each input or output..
Unfortunately, its separated per type, so not as useful as it could be. Which is probably why Realtek sound devices and the like have their own audio control panel software.
-
It's still more convenient to just plug everything wherever it fits, instead of figuring out what color the socket and jack are while under your desk.
-
Well, if you're not using a surround system, iirc it's generally green for audio out and pink for mic.
-
Yes, but depending on your desk, it might be herd to see where exactly those pink and green sockets are. Especially if you have a card capable of 5.1 output.
-
Nobody
rememberscan see those colors when groping around the back of the computer anyway,FTFY
-
-
Ignoring 5.1/7.1 for the moment, they're usually in this order if you're looking at the back panel:
Audio Out (green), Mic In (pink), Line In (blue)
For 5.1/7.1, you add more to the end in this order: Rear Audio Out (black), Center/Subwoofer (orange), Side Audio Out (silver)
If they are in two rows, the 5.1/7.1 are generally the top/right set.
Having said that, if you're setting up a 5.1/7.1 system and didn't check the order first... why didn't you? Lack of Due Diligence and all that.
-
Looks like another first-world problem.
My high tech gadget is configurable to allow me to support many different configurations with the click of a mouse, without even changing the wiring, but it requires me to click a button on my mouse once.
-
but it requires me to click a button on my mouse once
You're lucky. @tar might have to click three times.
-
Your attempt at writing ironic or sarcastic pieces needs work,
Thank you for your constructive advice, I found it to be very useful. Sincerely. Literally.
"I have two jacks, one ringed in green and one ringed in pink."
This is a 10" tablet device. It only has one socket which will accept 3.5mm jack.
Actually, you might be able to force the headphones into the power input if you pushed hard enough, although if you're going to go that route, you may want to consider
shrieking like a bonobo before frustratedly hurling the device and headphones to the floor in frustrationa career in Acer QA?if you're looking at the back panel
There is no back panel.
There is only Zuul.first-world problem.
Yeah, but what if I died, though? Would it still be a FWP then?!
-
-
-
In this scenario, I am Rick Moranis?
dunno. whomever you are you're better off than her whatshisface that gets his face melted in raiders of the lost ark
-
True, we're all better off than Arnold Ernst Toht. (If my search for "Raiders Lost Ark gestapo agent melting face" is to be trusted...)
-
What's worse though: having your face melted off like in Raiders, or being shot to pieces like in Robocop?
-
This is a 10" tablet device. It only has one socket which will accept 3.5mm jack.
Then I suppose some additional GUI must be necessary, since someone might plug in a stereo microphone instead of stereo headphones and you "can't" electrically distinguish between the two. What Realtek (I assume) does is still ridiculous overkill and bloat though.@tar said:you may want to consider
That is pretty much the only qualification needed. 😀shrieking like a bonobo before frustratedly hurling the device and headphones to the floor in frustrationa career in Acer QA?
-
In an ideal world, there would be a strict separation between "device drivers" and "userland software to configure the hardware", and you would never see an interface designed by a hardware vendor unless you plug in some esoteric device with a not yet standardized API.
-
Never bothered with anything better than stereo. Win 7 upwards makes audio management pretty easy. Probably best to disable, uninstall the crapware.
-
someone [i]might[/i] plug in a stereo microphone instead of stereo headphones and you "can't" electrically distinguish between the two.
IIRC, you [i]can[/i] use headphones as microphones (and vice versa), just that they do a terrible job at it, being optimized for the opposite use case...
-
Mobile headset jacks have an extra prong for the microphone ring on the connector, and it's possible to determine electrically whether someone's plugged in a mobile headset (which has the extra ring) or headphones (where that's just part of the sleeve). No user irritation required.
Have a like, because I've been idly curious how that detection works for months now. Who says tdwtf can't be educational!
-
IIRC, you [i]can[/i] use headphones as microphones (and vice versa), just that they do a terrible job at it, being optimized for the opposite use case...
I used my headphones as a mic back when I was a teenager with no income.
-
IIRC, you can use headphones as microphones (and vice versa), just that they do a terrible job at it, being optimized for the opposite use case...
Or to perpetuate the annoying fad of creating a 2+ minute video for something that could be read in 20 seconds:
-
-
Funny, the audio drivers on my Dell XPS do the exact same thing. Except that the balloon shows about 3 days later (not kidding)...
-
Mobile headset jacks have an extra prong for the microphone ring on the connector, and it's possible to determine electrically whether someone's plugged in a mobile headset (which has the extra ring) or headphones (where that's just part of the sleeve). No user irritation required.
You wouldn't believe how long it took for me to figure that out. Turns out that I had to switch the microphone on on my fancy headset (with its trivial switch) before plugging it in for the system hardware to detect the mic…
[spoiler]The headset was relatively expensive, but it has the advantage of being comfortable for all-day teleconference use. Most headsets are far worse.[/spoiler]
-
If I ever ran across the guy who devised that toaster, I'd probably punch him in the nose. YOU CAN'T TURN IT OFF!
-
Neither of those need any kind of GUI
And never had one, either, until the psychopaths at RealTek or wherever were unleashed upon an undeserving world.
-
Yes, but depending on your desk, it might be herd to see where exactly those pink and green sockets are.
Well, what about when you have duplicate jacks on the front panel, neatly labeled with icons? IIRC that damnable toaster can tell whether you plugged in to the front or rear port.
-
having your face melted off like in Raiders, or being shot to pieces like in Robocop?
I think the facemelting took less time, so probably that, if you had to.
-
Have a like, because I've been idly curious how that detection works for months now. Who says tdwtf can't be educational!
More'n you probably wanted to know, but if you scroll down, you'll learn about tip, ring, sleeve, and the other thing for mics (ring 2?).
-