Hamburger schmamburger
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Interesting article about the history of the "hamburger" menu icon and how many users are utterly confused by it.
The most damning part about it is:
Switching the lines for the word "menu" makes 20% more people click
So, essentially, people don't know what those stupid lines mean
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Three horizontal lines stacked on top of one another, looking like an equals sign gone wrong.
No, BBC, ≡ is called
equivalence
Also, why do they feel the need to show six different examples of the hamburger icon? They all look the same!
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So, essentially, people don't know what those stupid lines mean
So, essentially, people are dumb with computers. The hamburgers have been around for quite a while.
It also doesn't seem any more ambiguous to me than a speech balloon for notifications. Actually, this one is dumber if you think about it...
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Yeah, that was a bit silly, but par for a BBC tech article so I didn't really notice it.
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The hamburgers have been around for quite a while.
They seem pretty recent to me. I guess the browser menus were the first place I noticed them. Took me a while to associate that icon with a menu. I don't think it's fully taken yet. Not fond of hamburgers on the lawn, you see.
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The article mentions that the Xerox interface had something pretty similar, which they called the air vent, so it's as old as GUIs.
The main problem is that three lines doesn't mean anything. It's a completely abstract concept that you have to specifically learn, and most UIs that use it assume you already know what it is, because most UI designers already know what it is
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The article mentions that the Xerox interface had something pretty similar, which they called the air vent, so it's as old as GUIs.
I'm on to you. You can't trick me to RTFA. But that doesn't surprise me. Nevertheless, I look for menus with words on them.
It's a completely abstract concept that you have to specifically learn
Exactly.
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I'm on to you. You can't trick me to RTFA
I'd have gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling kids on your lawn
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I'd welcome the word "Menu" instead...
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But something with an arrow (like a normal dropdown) to indicate that it's a dropdown would be better. Or a clearer indication of a menu. I assume here that the lines are meant to represent the items in a menu.
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Not fond of hamburgers on the lawn
The lawn is quite a nice place to eat a hamburger on a nice, sunny summer day.
Filed under: If only it were warm and sunny, and I had some ground beef, and a grill on which to cook it.
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Got baffled by this while in Germany:
Took me 30 seconds before I processed it was actually something like "Bank of Hamburg" instead of a place to store your MacDo for later retrieval.
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I'm pretty sure that's true of pretty much every icon though, even things like the "trash can". Experienced users tend to forget that every UI element is learned, including things like buttons, icons or windows.
When I put my grandma in front of a computer for the first time, the screen might as well have looked like this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/39/Kandinsky_white.jpg
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I'm pretty sure that's true of pretty much every icon though, even things like the "trash can".
'Trash can' is a really bad example; even a four-year-old knows a trash can is for rubbish
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'Trash can' is a really bad example; even a four-year-old knows a trash can is for rubbish
Depends on where it's at. Sometimes it's a treasure trove.
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Only if you're Zoidberg.
Or on Scrapheap Challenge.
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MacDo
I believe this is the first time I have encountered that particular abbreviated form.
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Dude, you don't know how many times I found working hardware in trash. And shitloads of transformers. And printers from which you can pull the motors out of, which are great for CNC machine projects. And...
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Switching the lines for the word "menu" makes 20% more people click
...possibly searching for a way to turn it back to what they got used to.@Maciejasjmj said:
The hamburgers have been around for quite a while.
They seem pretty recent to me. I guess the browser menus were the first place I noticed them.
This exchange gets more amusing when you think of actual hamburger.
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Nevertheless, I look for
menusclay tabletswithwordscuneiform etched on them.FTFY.
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I remember using an icon with a single horizontal line in the top left to open menus more than 20 years ago.
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There is also this quote from the article:
German or Dutch can take a four-letter word and turn it into a 20-letter word,
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Or, more likely, take
three
short
wordsand turn it into
one-very-long-word-that-can't-reasonably-be-wrapped
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Nevertheless, I look for menus with words on them.
But you love buttons with the picture of a heart on them.
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When I put my grandma in front of a computer for the first time, the screen might as well have looked like this:
If she ever worked in an office, she'd recognize like ... 2/3rds of the iconography.
The standards a computer uses for form widgets (square = "select many", round = "select one", long rectangle = "type text here", title of form at top of page, etc) were the same icons used for paper forms for decades.
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I believe this is the first time I have encountered that particular abbreviated form.
Where do you go to get your chickie nugs?
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Where do you go to get your chickie nugs?
On the fairly infrequent occasions that I get chicken nuggets, I usually get them at the grocery store. When I go to MacD's, I get a hamburger — you know, what they're famous (or infamous) for.
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Hey, @blakeyrat, was that funny for you?
No. But at least you're not HardwareGeek who:
On the fairly infrequent occasions that I get chicken nuggets, I usually get them at the grocery store. When I go to MacD's, I get a hamburger — you know, what they're famous (or infamous) for.
Didn't even understand that there was a joke in that post. That's like negative humor points.
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Didn't even understand that there was a joke in that post.
I assume you thought "chickie nugs" was funny in the context of a shortened form of "MacDonald's." I didn't think it was funny, so I ignored it.
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Didn't even understand that there was a joke in that post.
I'll admit I didn't check the raw for hidden text, but I didn't see any jokes either. I thought it was a typo for "chickie hugs." I gathered that Washington prostitutes hang out at the Golden Arches.
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That was slightly funny.
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But you love buttons with the picture of a heart on them.
But who doesn't, apart from you?