HP is SRWTF (SuRreal WTF)
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So after spending a good part of last week with @Arantor, I am back in the office. This morning I noticed that our new office multifunction nightmare (aka fax/printer/scanner) produces a sexy striped look on all documents. While it is very slimming, readability is a bit of an issue.
I went through the usual schenanigans - switch off/on, reinstall drivers, clean scanner glass etc. None of this seemed to help any.
It therefore seemed logical to go for the firmware update. WTF 1: the firmware on the device is newer than the version offered on the HP website. Therefore the firmware provided there can not be installed.
Google time. Turns out the device seems to have this problem regularly while HP support is a bit clueless as to what to do about it.
I called their helpline (yes, I went there) and was told WTF 2 that I could solve all my problems if I make sure the printer is the only device running in the office at the time. Apparently other devices on the same circuit - like say the computer you are trying to print things from - draw too much power and prevent the HP from working correctly.
Being the brat that I am... I tested this. Switched everything off, printed from iPhone. It's still striped.
That multifailure device shall get returned immediately.
Do you think it is socially acceptable to strangle HP support?
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Wow, you assume I know how to do anything in discourse. XD
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I always try to not underestimate the people around me.
Btw, you should indeed strangle some HP guy.
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I've yet to figure out how to even vote in polls. It seems to let me change my vote forever - or is not being able to lock something in a design feature? XD
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It seems like votes are changeable until the poll is closed.
Btw, here's the Forum's Poll FAQ:
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/polls/783
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Wait, Discourse decides if your post is a poll by having the thread title start with "Poll: "?
Magic fucking strings.
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Discourse is full of weird and wonderful.
No, make that just weird.
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Wait, Discourse decides if your post is a poll by having the thread title start with "Poll: "?
Sorta.
[pjh@sofa discourse]$ grep closed_prefix . -ri -B1 ./plugins/poll/config/locales/server.zh_CN.yml- prefix: "投票:" ./plugins/poll/config/locales/server.zh_CN.yml: closed_prefix: "已关闭的投票:" -- ./plugins/poll/config/locales/server.de.yml- prefix: "Umfrage" ./plugins/poll/config/locales/server.de.yml: closed_prefix: "Beendete Umfrage" -- ./plugins/poll/config/locales/server.en.yml- prefix: "Poll" ./plugins/poll/config/locales/server.en.yml: closed_prefix: "Closed Poll" -- ./plugins/poll/config/locales/server.pl_PL.yml- prefix: "Ankieta" ./plugins/poll/config/locales/server.pl_PL.yml: closed_prefix: "Zamknięta ankieta" -- ./plugins/poll/config/locales/server.it.yml- prefix: "Sondaggio" ./plugins/poll/config/locales/server.it.yml: closed_prefix: "Sondaggio Chiuso" -- ./plugins/poll/config/locales/server.es.yml- prefix: "Encuesta" ./plugins/poll/config/locales/server.es.yml: closed_prefix: "Encuesta cerrada" -- ./plugins/poll/config/locales/server.fr.yml- prefix: "Sondage " ./plugins/poll/config/locales/server.fr.yml: closed_prefix: "Sondage fermé " [snip]
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And that, my friends, says all that needs to be said.
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No bilingual Forum support, yay!
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I wonder if the French is buggy due to the space in the magic string.
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I think the Chinese is even worse - they've put the colon into the translation as well as the space.
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How does any of this get past testing?
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testing
there's your problem!
whenever I say the above I should be pictured in a greasy pair of dungarees with a spanner in my hand, i.e. as a mechanic, just leaning over your car and saying the above line. except for software.
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How does any of this get past testing?
there's your problem!
This "testing" you speak of intrigues me. I would like to know more.
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How does any of this get past testing?
I'm not sure whether I use this line more often here, or at work when our vendor delivers us some more code.
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I wonder if the French is buggy due to the space in the magic string.
Probably not, but it’s assuming that every French people will write « Sondage : », which is an incorrect assumption:
- Most people will put no space before the colon
- Some people will put a space before the colon
- Grammar nazis will put a non-breaking space or a narrow non-breaking-space before the colon
EDIT: s/semicolon/colon/
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Do you think it is socially acceptable to strangle HP support?
Yes, but only if you do it using a garotte fashioned from the power cord of the latest HP device you have had the unfortunate luck to purchase from HP and need support for.
also, why is it that every other type of device except their laser printers has huge issues? i've had multiple HP laser printers and other than wanting new toner occasionally they've never given me trouble! but the laptop? the inkjet? that multifunction device? the copier (which is basically a glorified laser printer with attached scanner!) ISSUES!
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semicolon
I never saw semicolons in that place.
Only colons.
People who writeSondage ;
Are probably TRWTF.
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How does any of this get past testing?
CDCK is even more adept at testing than somewhere else we know.
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Yeah, Hewlett and Packard need to come back and drill the HP Way back into HP's addled corporate hive-mind.
BTW: have you tried changing the ink tanks on the thing? Or is it a laser-based multifailure device? Also, do scans get said striped look on them?
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This is Discourse, are you really that surprised?
No, but I wanted to believe. I want to believe that even Jeff-fucking-Atwood wouldn't use Magic Strings that are language dependent for functionality.
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No, but I wanted to believe. I want to believe that even Jeff-fucking-Atwood wouldn't use Magic Strings that are language dependent for functionality.
Why? What could possibly have given you the impression that this would not be a thing?
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You don't get it. This has sent me from Acceptance all the way back to Anger. I am fucking furious that this is a thing, and that people get away with this shit.
Filed Under: FUCKING HELL. JUST FUCKING HELL, I DON'T EVEN CARE WHAT IT DOES
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No. In French it is usual to put space before the fancier types of punctuation (that is
!
,?
,:
, but not.
and,
). IMO it looks ugly and it causes weird line-breaks in a lot of software, but apparently French are used to it.
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You have got to be shitting me.
./plugins/poll/poll.rb-19- if @post.post_number.nil? and topic.highest_post_number > 0 ./plugins/poll/poll.rb-20- # New post, but not the first post in the topic. ./plugins/poll/poll.rb-21- return false ./plugins/poll/poll.rb-22- end ./plugins/poll/poll.rb-23- ./plugins/poll/poll.rb:24: topic.title =~ /^(#{I18n.t('poll.prefix').strip}|#{I18n.t('poll.closed_prefix').strip})\s?:/i ./plugins/poll/poll.rb-25- end ./plugins/poll/poll.rb-26- ./plugins/poll/poll.rb-27- def has_poll_details? ./plugins/poll/poll.rb-28- if SiteSetting.allow_user_locale? ./plugins/poll/poll.rb-29- # If we allow users to select their locale of choice we cannot detect polls -- ./plugins/poll/poll.rb-58- @post.errors.add(:poll_options, I18n.t('poll.cannot_have_modified_options')) ./plugins/poll/poll.rb-59- end ./plugins/poll/poll.rb-60- end ./plugins/poll/poll.rb-61- ./plugins/poll/poll.rb-62- def is_closed? ./plugins/poll/poll.rb:63: @post.topic.closed? || @post.topic.archived? || (!SiteSetting.allow_user_locale? && (@post.topic.title =~ /^#{I18n.t('poll.closed_prefix')}/i) === 0) ./plugins/poll/poll.rb-64- end ./plugins/poll/poll.rb-65- ./plugins/poll/poll.rb-66- def options ./plugins/poll/poll.rb-67- cooked = PrettyText.cook(@post.raw, topic_id: @post.topic_id) ./plugins/poll/poll.rb-68- parsed = Nokogiri::HTML(cooked)
I want to believe that even Jeff-fucking-Atwood wouldn't use Magic Strings that are language dependent for functionality.
It's not Jeff.
[pjh@sofa discourse]$ git blame plugins/poll/plugin.rb | grep closed_prefix 5de7d889 (Vikhyat Korrapati 2014-04-12 22:53:21 +0530 84) topic.title = topic.title.gsub(/^(#{I18n.t('poll.prefix').strip})\s?:/i, I18n.t('poll.closed_prefix') + ':') 5de7d889 (Vikhyat Korrapati 2014-04-12 22:53:21 +0530 85) elsif topic.title =~ /^(#{I18n.t('poll.closed_prefix').strip})\s?:/i 5de7d889 (Vikhyat Korrapati 2014-04-12 22:53:21 +0530 86) topic.title = topic.title.gsub(/^(#{I18n.t('poll.closed_prefix').strip})\s?:/i, I18n.t('poll.prefix') + ':') [pjh@sofa discourse]$
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Like the American two-spacers?
WHY
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You don't get it. This has sent me from Acceptance all the way back to Anger. I am fucking furious that this is a thing, and that people get away with this shit.
Filed Under: FUCKING HELL. JUST FUCKING HELL, I DON'T EVEN CARE WHAT IT DOES
Oh, I get it. It's fucktarded on way too many levels.
My point is: you seem surprised with this given all the bullshit we have seen with Discourse.
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Jeff-fucking-Atwood
My recollection is that poll functionality is a plugin, not built-in
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It's not Jeff.
Well, fair enough. Still angry, but at least I can aim it in the right direction.
As I said, I believed that Jeff wouldn't be that bad. I just didn't know the poll feature was a plugin.Fucking plugins.
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Well, fair enough. Still angry, but at least I can aim it in the right direction.
But it's a plugin bundled with it as I understand it... so it might as well be core functionality.
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I want to believe that even Jeff-fucking-Atwood wouldn't use Magic Strings that are language dependent for functionality.
But you did know how polls worked, right?
Once the decision was made that the way to make a poll was "put a 'Poll' prefix in the title", there was no way it could be done without the use of magic strings (two for each supported language).
What makes me laugh is the wonderful ineptness with which it was done.
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Scans get multicoloured stripes on black and white documents. Pretty awesome, isn't it.
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But you did know how polls worked, right?
I didn't, actually, since I hadn't ever made a poll or read that particular section of our faq.
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So, now you do.
Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.
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Well, I don't tend to start threads here. I just post the occasional angry diatribe at something that angers me in other people's threads. I'm like a mellower blakeyrat.
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Wait, Discourse decides if your post is a poll by having the thread title start with "Poll: "?
That was my thought too, when I started playing around in One Post and someone griped.
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# If we allow users to select their locale of choice we cannot detect polls
W.T.F.
Edit- markdown failure removed.
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I know this isn't the core Discodevs here, but surely THAT comment is a sign that you are DEFINITELY doing it wrong.
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Do you think it is socially acceptable to strangle HP support?
nope, they're just as innocent in the issue as you are. find out who engineered that thing and strangle them. pin a striped note printed on the thing to their bodies explaining why you did it.
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nope, they're just as innocent in the issue as you are. find out who engineered that thing and strangle them. pin a striped note printed on the thing to their bodies explaining why you did it.
no jury in the world would convict*
*. I AN NOT A LAWYER: Don't take my legal advice without asking an actual lawyer about it, and listen to them. they actually finished law school, i didn't even start
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You an not a lawyer? Oh, dear. XD
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That reminds me of a Zelda fangame called "Phoenix Wright: Baking Tycoon" ...
Filed under: Don't ask.
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Wait, Discourse decides if your post is a poll by having the thread title start with "Poll: "?
It's a plug-in, IIRC. I assume the plug-in maker had limited choices.