Google Docs + IE11 = ???!
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i could have sworn that google docs was supported on IE11......
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Does it do that fullscreened as well? Half-assed responsive design / IE and
@media
queries not mixing if not?
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Seems to be OK in Firefox. Anyway, I thought you used Chrome normally?
Also, thanks for reminding me to download the latest Sonic Boom episode
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Have you checked if it's rendering in Edge mode?
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Also, no repro:
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I don't see this happening:
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Anyway, I thought you used Chrome normally?
i do, but because of tablet IE is default browser because when i need to use discourse with soft keyboard it is nice to be able to see what i'm typing without fiddling with window layout.
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Have you checked if it's rendering in Edge mode?
it is.
aaah...... WTF it's zoom level.
default (because windows 8.1 and 1080p 10" screen) is 125% and IE fracks up with layout on docs because of it.
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Confirmed. Fine at 100% zoom, 125 gives this
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I guess using a non-100% zoom setting is Doing it Wrong™...
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but this is GOOGLE!!!!!!!!1!
WHEN DID JEFF INFECT GOOGLE?!
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........ the hell?
discourse is really broken on small screens isn't it?
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It's my fault—I default to 125% zoom, so my use of any website is invalid, really...
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stockholm syndrome?...
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Well, clearly, there are no bugs with Discource dialogues worth fixing so it must be my problem...
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:-/
not acceptable.
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I had to do some accessibility testing last week. One of the steps is the following:
- Set screen resolution to 1024x1280 or smaller
- Install firefox addon 'full zoom' (or smth like that)
- Set text zoom to 200%
- Ensure the page is navigable
- Set page zoom to 200%
- Ensure the page is navigable.
Some supposedly conformant pages were atrocious.
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but this is GOOGLE!!!!!!!!1!
WHEN DID JEFF INFECT GOOGLE?!
FWIW, this might be IE's fault. NOREPRO on Chrome, Opera, and Firefox
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NOREPRO on Chrome, Opera
Do we even have to test these two separately these days?
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This one? I can't live without it anymore.
I'm quite partial to NoSquint.
And that browsers, after 15 years can't do this is TRWTF.
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This one. The fact that we identified 3 addons for this in under 12 hours may be TR
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And that browsers, after 15 years can't do this is TRWTF.
Found an install of Opera 12 on an old VM. Checked site preferences. No zoom option. Dissapoint!
Maybe I should put in feature reque... oh, right, this new piece of crap doesn't even have half the old functionality anyway. Forget it.
Filed under: Yet I'm using it because it's still the most feature-packed thing that works well enough out there...
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Did you ever? (Who the fuck uses Opera?)
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Did you ever?
Yes. I wrote stuff the way it should work according to standard (such as it is) without browser specific hacks that worked properly in Opera 99% of the time. Then I checked Chrome which usually caused no problems. Then I checked Firefox where I had to fix some minor stuff (mostly, it has some JS-related oddities here and there that required a bit more work). IE was and is Someone Else's Problem.
Also, Dragonfly (old Opera's dev tools) was freaking awesome and is the thing I miss from it the most.
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Who the fuck uses Opera?
According to current statistics, something in the ballpark of 46,352,743 people. So yeah...
Plus I like testing these issues on the most popular browsers and it's one of the top 5. Granted it's in last place but meh.
Yes. I wrote stuff the way it should work according to standard (such as it is) without browser specific hacks that worked properly in Opera 99% of the time. Then I checked Chrome which usually caused no problems. Then I checked Firefox where I had to fix some minor stuff (mostly, it has some JS-related oddities here and there that required a bit more work). IE was and is Someone Else's Problem.
Basically this, but I start with Chrome
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Basically this, but I start with Chrome
Well, that's pretty much how it goes for me now, too. New Opera has a few features I like and it's not broken outright so I'm using it. But dev tools are bog standard Chrome. Used to start with Opera mostly because of Dragonfly though.
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It also randomly blurs documents.
That would be really frustrating.
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that was me. i'm not exactly ready to share my resume (even an out of date one) here.
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Did someone miss what was clearly a joke?
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I saw that ninja edit. Would have been one of the more amusing @accalias
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probably. In my defense i'm currently stuffed fill of cold medicine, and my head feels full of cotton balls....
i'm not terribly awake right now.
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indeed. and the statement was still accurate with the toyp/
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I missed it
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There was an extra T in there somewhere. I'll let you decide where that would fit
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My assumed location has been confirmed correct…
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Praying for the wittle foxxy.
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Expecting browsers to have features is Doing It Wrong™. All software should be dumbed down until it does basically nothing because average users freak out if they see more than two buttons. All functionality must be implemented with extensions. Signed, Mozilla and Google.
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If they really thought that the developer tools would be a plugin (like Firebug was) and JavaScript would be a dangerous not-recommended add-on
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There was an extra T in there somewhere. I'll let you decide where that would fit
i'm not exactly ready to shart my resume
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average users freak out if they see more than two buttons.
How about if one of the buttons has a nice smily face on it?
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Expecting browsers to have features is Doing It Wrong™. All software should be dumbed down until it does basically nothing because average users freak out if they see more than two buttons. All functionality must be implemented with extensions. Signed, Mozilla and Google.
Except when we get paid for it. Signed, Mozilla (and Telefonica)
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And that browsers, after 15 years can't do this is TRWTF.
It looks like nearly nobody can write an application that can handle font zooming. My company's application layout is hosed if you have Large Fonts on in Windows, but it's not our fault, it's the runtime (I know because our workaround was to walk the window heirarchy and enlarge all controls for people who needed larger text.)
Interestingly Microsoft seems to have figured out the trick in Win8 or 8.1, because our application looks OK with Large Fonts on in that OS.
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It's funny that websites are document based, yet still can't figure out flow layout.
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It's funny that websites are document based, yet still can't figure out flow layout.
Listen, GUI apps basically can't do it either, so I'm not terribly surprised browsers suck at it.
When I was investigating this a couple of years ago I discovered even Microsoft software suffered from it. Great Plains or something like that had the same kind of UI fubar with Large Fonts. Now admittedly that was software they bought, not developed in-house, but apparently they didn't expend any effort on making the feature work.
As I said, as of 8, Windows does a much better job of scaling applications when Large Fonts is on.
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Another fun one is changing the default windows chrome colours, and seeing how many apps have the OS default colours hardcoded into them, rather than looking them up like they're supposed to do.
(I wonder if that's why the colour defaults were banished from Control Panel to the Registry in Windows 8...
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how many apps have the OS default colours hardcoded into them
Yeah, our application had a bit of that, a couple of buttons with legacy background colors from the Windows 95 era. As part of the work I did basically faking the functionality of Large Fonts, I fixed those to use the system colors.