What are the rules for sockpuppets here?
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@boomzilla said in The MetaModal NonDialog:
@HardwareGeek said in The MetaModal NonDialog:
Since when do we ban accounts for being sockpuppets?
Some sockpuppets are more
equaldeletey than others.
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@otter I'm inclined to say, "Don't be a dick," but that would eliminate most of the non-sockpuppet accounts, too.
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There are rules?
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@asdf They banned a bunch of them, so I suppose there is now.
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@otter said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
They banned a bunch of them, so I suppose there is now.
I think the rule is "don't be @fbmac".
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@Maciejasjmj There is also "Don't be @codinghorror"
Filed Under: #TheMoreYouKnow
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@Kuro said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
@Maciejasjmj There is also "Don't be @codinghorror"
Filed Under: #TheMoreYouKnow
what if you're both? I'm asking for a friend
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The rule for sockpuppets is, "Sockpuppets Rule!" Or at least that how it seems sometimes, given how much shit folx get away with through them...
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@otter Here's a rule: how about don't get into a PM conversation with a person using another account but never telling them who the fuck you are, and coming across like a total creeper.
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@codnghorror What if I am both? Asking for myself
Filed Under: I am an OC
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The rule is, sockpuppets are allowed at the discretion of the admins, and they reserve the right to revoke your sockpuppet privileges at any time.
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@Yamikuronue said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
The rule is,
sockpuppetsUser Accounts are allowed at the discretion of the admins, and they reserve the right to revoke yoursockpuppetlogin privileges at any time.FTFY.
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@blakeyrat said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
Here's a rule: how about don't get into a PM conversation with a person using another account but never telling them who the fuck you are, and coming across like a total creeper.
Sorry about that.
No means no.Got it this time.
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Is there an option to change usernames here or do we need to create sockpuppets?
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@russ0519 ask the admins
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@Jaloopa I couldn't figure out how to do that either. Do you just @ mention them in a thread? No PM ability to a a group, or do I have to pick one to ask?
@administrators is there a way to change your username?
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@Yamikuronue said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
The rule is, sockpuppets are allowed at the discretion of the admins, and they reserve the right to revoke your sockpuppet privileges at any time.
So, they actually use their abilities now? Jeff would be proud.
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@russ0519 said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
@administrators is there a way to change your username?
Yes:
@Jaloopa said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
@russ0519 ask the admins
Note that this will break stuff like your mentions in old posts. And not guaranteed to be accepted. NB, for @administrators reference, we've been keeping track of those changes here (topic is staff access only).
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@boomzilla said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
@russ0519 said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
@administrators is there a way to change your username?
Yes:
@Jaloopa said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
@russ0519 ask the admins
Note that this will break stuff like your mentions in old posts. And not guaranteed to be accepted. NB, for @administrators reference, we've been keeping track of those changes here (topic is staff access only).
All posts or just old posts? Seems like nodebb had a bugfix for the mention fix about a year ago:
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@russ0519 I believe those are notifications. They are ephemeral by design. I mean that old stuff that refers to russ0519 will continue to refer to him. But he won't be you anymore, because you're @cooldood94 or whatever.
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@clippy was a good puppet, it wasn't even properly banned, ben changed his password and isn't going to give me it back.
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@otter said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
@clippy was a good puppet, it wasn't even properly banned, ben changed his password and isn't going to give me it back.
... Did you not set the email address correctly? Or are you accusing him of altering that too?
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@otter It's one easy way to signal to mods and admins who owns the sockpuppet so they don't have to dig for it.
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@Yamikuronue said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
It's one easy way to signal to mods and admins who owns the sockpuppet
Why would you need to know that? Asking for a friend…
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@asdf I probably don't. But let's say a sockpuppet doxxed someone, or a bot started DOSing the server under a clearly sockpuppet name. We'd want to know who is responsible for that. Admins can find out anyway most of the time, but it's a nice goodwell gesture to make that available to us easily
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Having been a forum user and forum admin for too many years, the only rules you need for sock puppets are:
- Sock puppets are not for being a dick to everyone else
- Admins should be aware of the owner
Everything boils down to these two rules. There's no need to outline what sock puppets may do, only what they may not.
And remember this place is way more tolerant than many, sock puppets are generally frowned upon because other than bot running, there are surprisingly few legitimate reasons for sock puppetry, and all them are covered by rule 1.
I like how the argument is currently "I want to be a dick to people but others are being mean and backseat moderating" as opposed to "this shit shouldn't even be necessary to debate because being a dick to people is not entirely ok"
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Can we talk about how there is an actual @codinghorror now? When I tried to make that account it told me the username wasn't available.
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@anonymous234 said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
Can we talk about how there is an actual @codinghorror now? When I tried to make that account it told me the username wasn't available.
@kuro owns that sockpuppet. if you ask him nicely i suppose he might share it, but i suspect you won't be able to have much in teh way of fun with the sockpuppet before it's banned.
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@Yamikuronue said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
@asdf I probably don't. But let's say a sockpuppet doxxed someone, or a bot started DOSing the server under a clearly sockpuppet name. We'd want to know who is responsible for that. Admins can find out anyway most of the time, but it's a nice goodwell gesture to make that available to us easily
I've forgotten if this is my actual account or sock puppet account. send help!
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@anonymous234 It took me ~10 seconds after it was mentioned that @end changed his nickname to react... So you were simply to slow!
Filed Under: Want me to make it a public account?
Also Filed Under: Don't worry, I won't
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@Kuro said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
It took me ~10 seconds after it was mentioned that @end changed his nickname to react...
Hmmm. I remember.
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@PJH Good Times!
Filed Under: #PleaseDon'tBan
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https://what.thedailywtf.com/post/663306
https://what.thedailywtf.com/chats/5060 (PM - won't work for most.)
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@PJH said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
(PM - won't work for most.)
I love how the topic for that PM chain is still "Application for moderator?!?" because that totally fits the reason you posted the link.
But more seriously, @end has been gone for a while and I have not really abused the account for stuff.
I haven't even installed a makrov-chain bot that takes @end quotes as a base... which I would have found hillarious!Filed Under: Oh well
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@fbmac said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
@Arantor "I don't understand why you're doing it so you must be being a dick."
i'll admit it, i don't understand it, but i also wouldn't care if your behavior did not read dickish to me.
you have the habit of deleting your posts constantly, for reasons that you have not satisfactorily explained to me, your timing on the deletions is fantastic as well, they almost always are deleted when i'm halfway through reading them.
now that you have been prevented from deleting the posts, because myself and many other forum goers have complained, you have taken to editing your posts into oblivion instead.
You know by now that your behavior annoys us and that we want you to stop, and you do not stop, nor do you offer a reason why you feel you must act the way you do that satisfies. The only explanations i have seen for your actions boil down to "i want to be a dick and a troll" as far as i can tell.
and now you are playing with excessive amounts of sockpuppets, several of which are named in such a way that implies their sole purpose is to troll, and their observed behavior to date is trollish, which backs up the initial conclusion.
TLDR version: If you weren't a dick about it i wouldn't care about the sockpuppets, but you are being a dick about it so i care.
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@accalia Awww when did we remove his ability to delete post? Aren't you afraid of what happens when there are too many posts on nodebb. Any thing could happen.
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@DogsB said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
Awww when did we remove his ability to delete post?
yesterday, and not just his.
now there's a one hour window you cna delete posts in, but the edit window is a lot longer...
so he simply changed from deleting to editing into oblivion.
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@accalia said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
@DogsB said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
Awww when did we remove his ability to delete post?
yesterday, and not just his.
now there's a one hour window you cna delete posts in, but the edit window is a lot longer...
so he simply changed from deleting to editing into oblivion.
I see a deletion bot in our future!
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@Yamikuronue Someone else deleted a few posts and changed the title after I told you that @otter's password was posted in the status thread.
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@accalia said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
now that you have been prevented from deleting the posts, because myself and many other forum goers have complained, you have taken to editing your posts into oblivion instead.
There is no "instead". He's been doing that already in addition to deleting them.
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@aliceif said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
@accalia said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
now that you have been prevented from deleting the posts, because myself and many other forum goers have complained, you have taken to editing your posts into oblivion instead.
There is no "instead". He's been doing that already in addition to deleting them.
hmm.... be that as it may be, until now all i've seen is the deletes, the edits have been invisible to me.
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@accalia said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
@aliceif said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
@accalia said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
now that you have been prevented from deleting the posts, because myself and many other forum goers have complained, you have taken to editing your posts into oblivion instead.
There is no "instead". He's been doing that already in addition to deleting them.
hmm.... be that as it may be, until now all i've seen is the deletes, the edits have been invisible to me.
I told you about it before.
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@aliceif said in What are the rules for sockpuppets here?:
I told you about it before.
- that does not change the fact that i have been unable to observe the behavior you describe
- my memory is imperfect as all creatures memory is.
- that fact really is not germane to my complaint against @fbmac/@otter/whatever sockpuppet he's using today