Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes
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I don't know if the first bit is a bug, but I noticed that if a post has a negative score it doesn't show who downvoted it the way users will be listed if a post has a positive score. This might be on purpose to "protect" the guilty, but I would expect the same behavior for upvotes and downvotes.
Anyway, if an upvote then returns the score to 0, when you mouse-over the upvote list will show for an instant and then disappear, instead of staying shown as in the case of sots with positive score. I feel this is definitely a bug.
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@Kian - this is to avoid you hunting down and killing those who have wronged you on the forums
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More fun with votes: Upvote a 0 rated post, then undo it. The poster will get a notification that you and -1 others upvoted
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@LB_ I like how it's marked as "sent upstream" but without a link to the upstream issue
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I assumed downvotes don't show so another flame war doesn't happen. I consider this a feature.
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@lordofduct Yes, which is why I figured the first part was maybe a bug. But showing the upvoters list for a second and then hiding it is definitely a bug. Either don't show upvotes when the post has one downvote and one upvote, or don't hide the list. Don't do both.
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@Jaloopa said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
@LB_ I like how it's marked as "sent upstream" but without a link to the upstream issue
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@LB_ Fine, without a direct link
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@LB_ said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
@boomzilla might be able to help. I can't.
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@ben_lubar That doesn't explain why when upvotes + downvotes equal zero, the upvote list is shown and then immediately hidden.
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@lucas1 said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
I assumed downvotes don't show so another flame war doesn't happen. I consider this a feature.
I actually would like it for downvotes to be public. I mean, why not? There is a way to express negative attitude but there's no way to see who did that? Kinda lame. What are we? Five? "I'll pinch but I'll pretend someone else did that."
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@Kian said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
I don't know if the first bit is a bug, but I noticed that if a post has a negative score it doesn't show who downvoted it the way users will be listed if a post has a positive score.
intentional, if silly
bonus points though, with enough upvotes you stop being able to see them all in the tool tip.
in fact non admins (mods might be able to as well) can only see five upvoters.
@Kian said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
Anyway, if an upvote then returns the score to 0, when you mouse-over the upvote list will show for an instant and then disappear, instead of staying shown as in the case of sots with positive score. I feel this is definitely a bug.
yeah, that's weird.
what's weirder is the upvote notifications if you have @boomzilla's tweak for 1st, 5th,10th,etc enabled and there are downvotes. you seem to get a notification for the number of raw upvotes, leading me to get a 10 upvote notification for a post that has a score of 4
which is weird. not necessarily a bug though.... but definitely weird.
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I can understand why downvoters aren't shown, but I don't like how + and - are summed to determine the total score, as this would imply that someone who makes a very good (but disputed) post ends up with barely no upvotes. I would prefer to see something like YouTube's system, which shows the number of upvotes and downvotes:
As you can see, the majority of people like the video, but there are some haters as well.
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@accalia said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
in fact non admins (mods might be able to as well) can only see five upvoters.
That's been bothering me, but I understand it's just a poor design choice, not a bug.
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@kt_ I don't downvote unless someone is being a right dick. It is a etiquette thing I suppose. I rather argue my case ...
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@Kian said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
@accalia said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
in fact non admins (mods might be able to as well) can only see five upvoters.
That's been bothering me, but I understand it's just a poor design choice, not a bug.
well, actually. you always were only able to see 5 users in the list, but the websocket used to return them all, now it only returns the first five it finds (which thanks to mongodb is usually but not always the first five to upvote)
so they fixed the websocket to only return the five it was going to show....
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@lucas1 said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
@kt_ I don't downvote unless someone is being a right dick. It is a etiquette thing I suppose. I rather argue my case ...
I do downvote but I don't see any reason why the downvotee should be unaware it was me.
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@kt_ Because it causes arguments and animosity. This is why Facebook has a upvote only system.
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@lucas1 said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
it causes arguments and animosity. This is why Facebook
And we all know that Facebook is the kindest location on the internet where nobody ever gets mad at anyone else.
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@accalia said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
in fact non admins (mods might be able to as well) can only see five upvoters.
I can see all upvoters and downvoters on a post.
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@AlexMedia said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
as this would imply that someone who makes a very good (but disputed) post ends up with barely no upvotes
Reddit has a "controversial" mark to indicate this.
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@lordofduct said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
@Kian - this is to avoid you hunting down and killing those who have wronged you on the forums
Everyone wrongs me eventually.
Everyone dies.
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@Kian said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
@ben_lubar That doesn't explain why when upvotes + downvotes equal zero, the upvote list is shown and then immediately hidden.
I don't think that bug is related to the score. I've seen that glitch before and I don't think the score is always 0 when it happens.
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@anotherusername I doubt it needs to be exactly zero. Probably a combination of upvotes and downvotes in some proportion. I just noticed it on a score of zero, so that's what I reported.
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@Lorne-Kates said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
Everyone wrongs me eventually.
Let me guess: by refusing to give you money?
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@Yamikuronue said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
@accalia said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
in fact non admins (mods might be able to as well) can only see five upvoters.
I can see all upvoters and downvoters on a post.
Ok, I wanna be a moderator too! I want to abuse some power!
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@accalia said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
which is weird. not necessarily a bug though.... but definitely weird.
oh, and there's this calculation too:
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@accalia I think you missed part of this thread. On that note, will people please stop sending me those pointless notifications?
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@LB_ said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
I think you missed part of this thread.
undoubtedly.
@LB_ said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
On that note, will people please stop sending me those pointless notifications?
I'll do what i can, but i'm only one person.
in other news i see i can still break the mention parser.... nice.
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@Kian said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
But showing the upvoters list for a second and then hiding it is definitely a bug.
That can happen even on posts with no downvotes, so while it's a bug it's maybe not the bug you think it is.
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@FrostCat said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
so while it's a bug it's maybe not the bug you think it is.
No, it's definitely the bug I think it is, in that the list is shown and then hidden.
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@Kian said in Downvoting doesn't show who downvoted, funky behavior when there are downvotes and upvotes:
No, it's definitely the bug I think it is, in that the list is shown and then hidden.
Right, but you can ALSO see that happen in a post with no downvotes. So either there's two bugs, or downvotes aren't relevant to what's causing the disappearance.
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@FrostCat Whether it's one or two, or more, is a matter for the person who fixes it to determine. I'm just reporting the wrong behavior, and the circumstances where I found it.