Oh, Discourse …
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TCotCDCK is so pleased with their efforts to use Discourse as an issue tracker, they have now introduced a tool for migrating GitHub issues to Discourse.
I wish I was kidding.
Filed Under: This is not a facepalm. This is a facepalm.
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I like this guy.
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RIP cpradio, we barely knew thee...
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@izzion said in Oh, Discourse …:
RIP cpradio, we barely knew thee...
/me finds a set of bagpipes and starts playing a funeral dirge.
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@CHUDbert said in Oh, Discourse …:
I'm sure he has been banned by now.
We should invite him here - and make sure he knows about that thread.
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@dcon I'm pretty sure he's a deep cover WTDWTF-er who avoided the ban hammer. That's not the first time he's pointed out was .
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@MathNerdCNU said in Oh, Discourse …:
a deep cover WTDWTF-er who avoided the ban hammer.
Heh, I didn't get banned either--my account there is not only still active, but logged in.
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@dcon said in Oh, Discourse …:
We should invite him here - and make sure he knows about that thread.
@cpradio is already here
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@candlejack1 said in Oh, Discourse …:
@cpradio is already here
I think he was talking about inviting Jakob Borg (calmh), who made the comment @DogsB quoted.
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I'm here too. Although sporadically. And I'm well aware of the other thread. And somewhat surprised to be alive and kicking on meta...
I'd have expected one of the tdcktd people to jump in an say something along the lines of them using Discourse for tracking all bugs and how awesome that was working out, to which I had a couple of polite but interesting replies, but no cigar.
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Eh. What do I care? It was a job, I don't ask why so long as the money clears :)
I do have to say that the Discourse Team was pretty laid back with the project. They didn't really care what language it was in or how it worked, so I got to architect the whole workflow in the language of my choice.
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@cpradio said in Oh, Discourse …:
Eh. What do I care? It was a job, I don't ask why so long as the money clears :)
I do have to say that the Discourse Team was pretty laid back with the project. They didn't really care what language it was in or how it worked, so I got to architect the whole workflow in the language of my choice.
I hope it was Brainfuck.
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@cpradio said in Oh, Discourse …:
I got to architect the whole workflow in the language of my choice.
So you're saying we should blame you, not Jeff?
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@HardwareGeek don't blame the person implementing the stupid idea, even if it is implemented well by someone competent - blame the person who insisted the stupid idea wasn't stupid.
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@Arantor Klaus Barbie was competent.
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@DogsB "Discourse is Discourse... Why would you want to import issues into it, on top of those it already has by itself?"
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@cpradio said in Oh, Discourse …:
They didn't really care what language it was in or how it worked
Or if it worked.
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@HardwareGeek said in Oh, Discourse …:
So you're saying we should blame you, not Jeff?
I guess you can... I was simply told they needed a system that did X, and when I asked all of the general questions I would for gathering requirements, they pretty well let me choose my own route. It runs on Node.js, for those interested.
@Lorne-Kates said in Oh, Discourse …:
Or if it worked.
Fairly certain you are poking fun, but last time I checked, it still worked...
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@cpradio said in Oh, Discourse …:
@Lorne-Kates said in Oh, Discourse …:
Or if it worked.
Fairly certain you are poking fun, but last time I checked, it still worked...
You may want to check again.
And again in a few minutes after that.
And hey, maybe, since you'll have to keep checking over and over again, you might as well set up something like Server Cooties to know exactly when it goes down.
Not if. When. And how often.
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@FrostCat that's a silly name for a Nazi
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@candlejack1 maybe it's more menacing in German?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't @wood one of the people who made new software (and sites) for Q&A because forums were bad for things that weren't dialog topics?
So, this is basically a complete 180 from what he said before?
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@powerlord he decided early on that dogfooding meant using your software for everything, even if it's not remotely suited. That's where forums as bugtrackers came from
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@powerlord said in Oh, Discourse …:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't @wood one of the people who made new software (and sites) for Q&A because forums were bad for things that weren't dialog topics?
So, this is basically a complete 180 from what he said before?
Not exactly. His point is that forums are bad for Q&A but they're OK to discuss features and issues.
But then he insisted on making it the only place to report issues and feature requests in an attempt to eat his own dogfood.
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@FrostCat said in Oh, Discourse …:
it's more menacing in German?
Everything is more menacing in German ... a butterfly is something beautiful but Schmetterling coud be some S&M device.
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@Lorne-Kates said in Oh, Discourse …:
And hey, maybe, since you'll have to keep checking over and over again, you might as well set up something like Server Cooties to know exactly when it goes down.
Not if. When. And how often.you know.... https://servercooties.io runs on nodejs too, and according to it's internal tracking it crashes..... approximately never.
discounting the time back in May that i rebooted the server and it took a minute or two to come back because of a scheduled chkdsk, i've had about 10 seconds of downtime since i launched the site for nodebb, and no single outage duration was longer than 500ms.
so.... it is possible to have a stable site run on nodejs.....
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@accalia yes but it requires competence. There's the difference.
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@Arantor said in Oh, Discourse …:
@accalia yes but it requires competence. There's the difference.
competence?
have you looked at the code i wrote for servercooties?! it's shite!
i mean it really really really is bad!
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@accalia said in Oh, Discourse …:
so.... it is possible to have a stable site run on nodejs.....
Needs more mongodb
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@accalia yeah, but servercooties isn't integrating with Discourse. I predict this service will break roughly every couple of weeks as Discourse randomly changes database schemas, output format and API endpoints.
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@candlejack1 said in Oh, Discourse …:
Needs more mongodb
yeah. no.
the job servercooties answers doesn't actually require a database. i only keep one for the statisticsporn.
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@Lorne-Kates said in Oh, Discourse …:
You may want to check again.
And again in a few minutes after that.
And hey, maybe, since you'll have to keep checking over and over again, you might as well set up something like Server Cooties to know exactly when it goes down.
Not if. When. And how often.Nah, experience so far is it takes a lot to kill a Node.js server. I put it through the paces, it is built to handle internal failures when communicating with GitHub and Discourse. When I went to launch, GitHub unexpectantly went down for several hours, which made things a bit interesting.
@Jaloopa said in Oh, Discourse …:
@accalia yeah, but servercooties isn't integrating with Discourse. I predict this service will break roughly every couple of weeks as Discourse randomly changes database schemas, output format and API endpoints.
Yeah, that is probably the best and biggest concern. The Node.js code is pretty solid, but its integration with GitHub and Discourse quickly became overly complex and should those endpoints stop working or cease existence, it won't be easy to resolve.
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@cpradio said in Oh, Discourse …:
Discourse quickly became overly complex
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@Luhmann said in Oh, Discourse …:
Everything is more menacing in German ...
Counter-example: Nebelwerfer.
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@accalia said in Oh, Discourse …:
so.... it is possible to have a stable site run on nodejs.....
It's also possible to have open source software that doesn't suck. But the odds are against you.
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@blakeyrat said in Oh, Discourse …:
It's also possible to have
open sourcesoftware that doesn't suck. But the odds are against you.
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@accalia still better shite than most NodeJS, and most JS in general.
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@abarker This screams "pet project".
I mean, why not just use a shared dropbox account and notepad.
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@xaade I could see them both in time, Jeff is getting slower.
I see you like being banned, you're gonna love the Pyongyang subreddit.
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This is why I don't get banned.
Important for people wondering why my Twitter isn't blocked as well.
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@xaade I still don't get it
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@candlejack1 said in Oh, Discourse …:
@xaade I could see them both in time, Jeff is getting slower.
I see you like being banned, you're gonna love the Pyongyang subreddit.
This is the most beautiful thing I've seen all day.
*edit I think I'm going to lose about two days laughing at this reddit..
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@candlejack1 said in Oh, Discourse …:
@xaade I still don't get it
He pairs his criticism with sucking up.