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THE REALITY OF OUR HEALTH The United States is sicker than ever. The U.S. spends more than any other country on healthcare yet has more chronic health issues than any other country. Half of all adults in the U.S. have a chronic illness, and nearly half will eventually die of cancer. We are...
The site looks professional and well funded. What's their angle?
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The real epidemic in America is not measles, chicken pox, or Hepatitis B.
GEE I FUCKING WONDER WHY
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@russ0519 Why the fuck did Amazon let them sign up as a Smile participant? Jesus.
I haven't been able to find out anything about them.
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@blakeyrat However, while researching it I came across this page http://fullcircleproject.net/status/1375/ which has this awesome comment:
you can put 100 different vaccines in your body and after that drink your urine for a month and you will feel better then before all thous vaccines. you can also cure everybody around you with your urine because it has all information about everybody around you. and what ever your condition is after two weaks of drinking it it became crystal clear and with no smell at all. like distilled water picked near the ground in beginning of evaporation.
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At least they're not trying to convince parents of autistic children to try bleach enemas.
Autism Parents Still Buying Into Bleach Cure From Self-Described Space Alien God
Parents in many parts of the world continue to dose their children orally or by enema with bleach solution, all on the “autism cure” promise.
(Relevance: the people pushing this "protocol" are vocal antivaxers.)
Filed under: The site from the OP is 503 Service Unavailable, so I'm not sure they aren't. I hope someone is DDoSing them.
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@blakeyrat said in Antivaxers:
you can put 100 different vaccines in your body and after that drink your urine for a month and you will feel better then before all thous vaccines. you can also cure everybody around you with your urine because it has all information about everybody around you. and what ever your condition is after two weaks of drinking it it became crystal clear and with no smell at all. like distilled water picked near the ground in beginning of evaporation.
Needs more rainbow.
EDIT: and unicorns.
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@Luhmann said in Antivaxers:
@antiquarian said in Antivaxers:
unicorns
I truly believe unicorn wee can cure cancer!
Chuck Norris' tears can cure cancer, but he has never cried.
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@error said in Antivaxers:
Chuck Norris' tears can cure cancer, but he has never cried.
That bastard!
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@error said in Antivaxers:
Chuck Norris' tears can cure cancer, but he has never cried.
Damn you Chuck Norris! Won't you think of the children!
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When you read the list under "Take Action", none of the items says "Don't get vaccinated". Cowards.
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@Luhmann said in Antivaxers:
I truly believe unicorn wee can cure cancer!
It also seems to be an effective fox repellent, if my memory of the likes thread serves...
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She has a FB page too...discussion there gets fun (but I can't get FB at work).
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@russ0519 said in Antivaxers:
What's their angle?
They might just be cranks. Half the shit that billboard says is a flat-out lie. (First off, by "mercury" they mean the preservative thimerosal, which is so toxic it's in eye drops.)
ETA: I'd be surprised our resident antivaxxer/slight kook hasn't posted to this thread except he's been gone for several months.
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@bb36e said in Antivaxers:
@Karla said in Antivaxers:
She's the "Subway yoga mat chemical" lady, right?
No, that's Food Babe...Sci Babe is her arch enemy, attempting to rid the world of anti-science tomfoolery. She and her followers expertly troll Food Babe and get banned. "Banned by Food Babe" is another fun FB page.
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Their baby was born in an interpreter?
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@FrostCat said in Antivaxers:
ETA: I'd be surprised our resident antivaxxer/slight kook hasn't posted to this thread except he's been gone for several months.
Context, for those of you wondering.
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We had an outbreak in our area before my daughter was old enough to get the MMR.
My pediatrician friend told me to not take her outside because and I quote, "measles is crazy airborne."
She had her appointment 1 day after birthday (birthday was on a Sunday).
Then when she did have a rapid onset rash...I was terrified it could have been measles. Luckily just roseola (similar childhood disease but far more minor) . Doctor was like she's acting too healthy to have measles (well and the rash looks differently).
I'd rather an autistic kid than a dead one (even if the link had merit even though it doesn't).
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@Karla said in Antivaxers:
No, that's Food Babe...Sci Babe is her arch enemy, attempting to rid the world of anti-science tomfoolery. She and her followers expertly troll Food Babe and get banned. "Banned by Food Babe" is another fun FB page.
Just sounds like you're referencing the board-tans.
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@Magus said in Antivaxers:
@Karla said in Antivaxers:
No, that's Food Babe...Sci Babe is her arch enemy, attempting to rid the world of anti-science tomfoolery. She and her followers expertly troll Food Babe and get banned. "Banned by Food Babe" is another fun FB page.
Just sounds like you're referencing the board-tans.
TIL
Just sounds like you're referencing the board-tans.
They are actually people, so not really anthropomorphized.
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@Karla said in Antivaxers:
TIL
You seemed like someone who might be entertained by a community who has anthropomorphised their own hangouts so they can write bad fanfics about them.
...interestingly, /v/ is often depicted in a way reminiscent of our logo, particularly when he appears with Vivian.
I don't search this stuff out even. It gets sent to me by friends fairly often.
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@Magus said in Antivaxers:
I don't search this stuff out even.
Yyyyyeah, it's weird how often one accidentally stumbles upon it.
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@Magus said in Antivaxers:
@Karla said in Antivaxers:
TIL
You seemed like someone who might be entertained by a community who has anthropomorphised their own hangouts so they can write bad fanfics about them.
...interestingly, /v/ is often depicted in a way reminiscent of our logo, particularly when he appears with Vivian.
I don't search this stuff out even. It gets sent to me by friends fairly often.
Not sure. I am normally not that creative. Every so often, once in every third blue moon, I have an inspiration (they usually shock the hell out of me). I was so proud of that comment, I had to tell my husband (he liked it).
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@Maciejasjmj said in Antivaxers:
@Magus said in Antivaxers:
I don't search this stuff out even.
Yyyyyeah, it's weird how often one accidentally stumbles upon it.
You mean like porn? Or so I've heard, why do you ask?
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@ben_lubar said in Antivaxers:
Their baby was born in an interpreter?
It's amazing how many of those stories have only the parents say so as a link. I clicked on three random stories on that site, and in all three the link to vaccines was only established by the parents. All three stories bemoaned the fact that medical professionals ruled out vaccines as the cause of the problem or didn't consider it - probably because problems surfaced weeks or months after the vaccine was administered.
But of course, we all know that
feelz > realz
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@abarker said in Antivaxers:
because problems surfaced weeks or months after the vaccine was administered
To be fair, I'm still having nightmares weeks or months after the Discourse was administered.
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@ben_lubar said in Antivaxers:
@abarker said in Antivaxers:
because problems surfaced weeks or months after the vaccine was administered
To be fair, I'm still having nightmares weeks or months after the Discourse was administered.
Discourse Fortress?
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@Karla said in Antivaxers:
We had an outbreak in our area before my daughter was old enough to get the MMR.
There was a facebook meme going around a couple of weeks before my daughter's first vaccination with a kid and a caption along the lines of "if you're so confident in your vaccines why are you scared of me?".
I held off on replying "I'm not scared for myself, I'm scared for my tiny baby who hasn't had her scheduled vaccinations yet and hasn't had time to develop an immune system. I'm also scared for all the other people who can't be vaccinated for whatever reason"
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Vaccines contain multiple additives that have no place in the human body.
Isn't that, like, the whole idea of a vaccine?
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I used to not get the flu vax (docs kept pushing it while I was pregnant) and was hesitant on why newborns need a Hep-B vax (isn't that a sexually transmitted -- I think I have some time before that).
Last year, I knew someone that died of the flu at 60. I get the flu vax now.
Ped explained when kids get Hep-B they often don't know the vector of transmission and there is no cure. My daughter got the Hep-B vax.
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My family travels a lot, often to torpical countries. As a child I got almost every vaccine known to mankind.
Turned out alright.
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@Karla said in Antivaxers:
I used to not get the flu vax (docs kept pushing it while I was pregnant)
Isn't it recommended in the last few weeks of pregnancy? Too early and it's not effective by the time the baby's born, but it does confer immunity better than you having the antibodies and passing them through breastmilk
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@Jaloopa said in Antivaxers:
@Karla said in Antivaxers:
I used to not get the flu vax (docs kept pushing it while I was pregnant)
Isn't it recommended in the last few weeks of pregnancy? Too early and it's not effective by the time the baby's born, but it does confer immunity better than you having the antibodies and passing them through breastmilk
My primary pushed it when she knew I was trying. OB and assistants asked repeatedly.
They said it would protect her even that early. I only rarely ever got the flu, and I was working from home at the time.
Then they told me...if I was exposed to anyone with the flu I should get TamiFlu right away. One of the big kids did get it (he was tested). I decided to wait to see if I got sick and I didn't.
I did get the whooping cough vax in the last two months which does help protect the baby before they can get their first vax for it at 2 months.
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@russ0519 said in Antivaxers:
Home Page - Learn the Risk
THE REALITY OF OUR HEALTH The United States is sicker than ever. The U.S. spends more than any other country on healthcare yet has more chronic health issues than any other country. Half of all adults in the U.S. have a chronic illness, and nearly half will eventually die of cancer. We are...
The site looks professional and well funded. What's their angle?
Their angle is that they are as nutty as squirrel shit. As far as well-funded...a girl I went to high school with has a high income husband and two autistic children. I would not at all be surprised that she had funded some of this shit.
High-maintenance moms who listen to Jenny McCarthy as a reliable source of medical information is how they get their funding. They think they have the "real information", and they put their dollars behind it.
Also, if you want to make this a flamewar, I know who to @mention. Just let me know. I am the flamewar scientist around here.
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@Karla said in Antivaxers:
I used to not get the flu vax (docs kept pushing it while I was pregnant) and was hesitant on why newborns need a Hep-B vax (isn't that a sexually transmitted -- I think I have some time before that).
Last year, I knew someone that died of the flu at 60. I get the flu vax now.
Ped explained when kids get Hep-B they often don't know the vector of transmission and there is no cure. My daughter got the Hep-B vax.
Blood is also a vector of transmission. And childbirth carries a risk of transmission to your child if you're infected.
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@Polygeekery said in Antivaxers:
Also, if you want to make this a flamewar, I know who to @mention. Just let me know. I am the flamewar scientist around here.
What have I done this time?
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@Khudzlin I knew that. I left it out for brevity. Doc's point was that you cannot trace it to a specific incident of exposure.
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@Polygeekery said in Antivaxers:
Also, if you want to make this a flamewar, I know who to @mention.
Sure. We haven't had a good shitshow in a few days.
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@error Meh, he has not been online in 3 months and also he is how he is because of a child with autism so I cut him some slack. It does not make his views any less batshit crazy, but I empathize all the same.
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@Polygeekery said in Antivaxers:
@error Meh, he has not been online in 3 months and also he is how he is because of a child with autism so I cut him some slack. It does not make his views any less batshit crazy, but I empathize all the same.
I can kind of understand and respect batshit crazy to a degree. What I don't get are people like @Fox who get wind of an argument that doesn't involve them, and insert themselves into it (
), and won't ever let go. Like it's their solemn fucking duty to correct all those poor souls who are wrong on the Internet.
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@error said in Antivaxers:
it's their solemn fucking duty to correct all those poor souls who are wrong on the Internet.
Which would be fine — as a Viscount Pedantic Dickweed, I respect that compulsion — if only they were not themselves wrong.
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@Jaloopa said in Antivaxers:
@Karla said in Antivaxers:
We had an outbreak in our area before my daughter was old enough to get the MMR.
There was a facebook meme going around a couple of weeks before my daughter's first vaccination with a kid and a caption along the lines of "if you're so confident in your vaccines why are you scared of me?".
I held off on replying "I'm not scared for myself, I'm scared for my tiny baby who hasn't had her scheduled vaccinations yet and hasn't had time to develop an immune system. I'm also scared for all the other people who can't be vaccinated for whatever reason"
Isn't there something about vaccines, I forget what it's called. Basically it doesn't matter if one person gets the virus, because most people are vaccinated, those that are not are unlikely to come into contact with those that carry it. Like a vaccine firewall if you will.
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@russ0519 herd immunity. And it doesn't work if there's a nontrivial part of the population that isn't immune.
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@ben_lubar said in Antivaxers:
@russ0519 herd immunity. And it doesn't work if there's a nontrivial part of the population that isn't immune.
The more anti-vaxers there are the more dangerous life is for those that CANNOT get vaxed (too young, immunocompromised, etc).
This is truly privilege -- you live in such a wealthy country that many deadly and debilitating disease can be prevented -- you instead choose to put some already sick people and
at risk of disease.Freakin Needle Beetles!! Fuck that pretend cursing.
Fuck micro-aggression that is fucking shit ton of aggression.
I need
in my safe space. I'm so fucking triggered 
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@Polygeekery said in Antivaxers:
Also, if you want to make this a flamewar, I know who to @mention.
If you're thinking of a certain crimson mage, don't. (Besides, I just checked and he hasn't posted in 3 months.)
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@mention said in Antivaxers:
What have I done this time?
Nothing this time. Your mistake was choosing a poor username. :)
Scibabe
works for me. 
works too.