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@PJH
I need some Lorem Ipsum of my own so I might give them a go ...
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Good luck mining that sort of stuff from me. You can't even find my profile unless you're a friend of a friend.
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My policy remains: "I don't have any of those." I might try simply saying no, too: "you may not have that." Perhaps the government would like to find out you're using a company that will give you data you're not allowed to have?
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Anyone who says "decent people shouldn't have anything to hide" deserves a punch in the mouth.
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It sounds like making a deal with the devil leaves you better off than this...
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@FrostCat said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
Anyone who says "decent people shouldn't have anything to hide"
Just ask them : why are you wearing clothes ?
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@TimeBandit OK, so you won't mind that camera I set up in your bathroom. There's also one in your child's bedroom. They don't have anything to hide either do they?
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Well, I don't think scraping the information you set as public is wron...
you’re required to grant it full access to your Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter and/or Instagram profiles
OH HELL NO
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@DoctorJones said in Want to rent an apartment? We'll need all your social media logins please!:
To make it worse, the company turns over to the landlords' indicators that the landlords aren't legally allowed to consider (age, race, pregnancy status)
To be honest, that has always seemed like one of the least enforceable laws ever.
At least until we are able to place a neuronal probe in the front cortex of the person making the decision to monitor what factors they are considering.
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@anonymous234 said in Want to rent an apartment? We'll need all your social media logins please!:
@DoctorJones said in Want to rent an apartment? We'll need all your social media logins please!:
To make it worse, the company turns over to the landlords' indicators that the landlords aren't legally allowed to consider (age, race, pregnancy status)
To be honest, that has always seemed like one of the least enforceable laws ever.
At least until we are able to place a neuronal probe in the front cortex of the person making the decision to monitor what factors they are considering.
Actively seeking information it's illegal for you to use is a pretty good indicator that you plan to illegally use it.
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@ben_lubar said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
Actively seeking information it's illegal for you to use is a pretty good indicator that you plan to illegally use it.
Is it bollocks. Actively seeking information it's illegal for you to use is, in most cases at least, a prerequisite to illegally using said information, but there's a lot of people who actively seek such with no intent of actually using it.
For example, it would (I believe, based on my location) be illegal for me to make rifled gun barrels, but that doesn't stop me from being interested in how it could be done. Likewise explosive manufacture, synthesis of certain chemical substances, using XSS attacks to harvest other people's PII / money, and so on.
Going through life with the attitude of "that's illegal, I don't nee to know anything about it" puts you in danger through ignorance.
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@tufty said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
@ben_lubar said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
Actively seeking information it's illegal for you to use is a pretty good indicator that you plan to illegally use it.
Is it bollocks. Actively seeking information it's illegal for you to use is, in most cases at least, a prerequisite to illegally using said information, but there's a lot of people who actively seek such with no intent of actually using it.
For example, it would (I believe, based on my location) be illegal for me to make rifled gun barrels, but that doesn't stop me from being interested in how it could be done. Likewise explosive manufacture, synthesis of certain chemical substances, using XSS attacks to harvest other people's PII / money, and so on.
Going through life with the attitude of "that's illegal, I don't nee to know anything about it" puts you in danger through ignorance.
There's a difference between knowledge and information. Information would be things like credit card numbers, passwords, and email addresses, which may not be illegal to possess but may be illegal to use. Knowledge is things like what you were saying.
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Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
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@fbmac said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
Stop talking with your mouth full!
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@fbmac said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die.
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@ben_lubar said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
There's a difference between knowledge and information.
Yes, but it's not what you think it is. Think about the root of the word "knowledge".
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Step one: Create an alt profile. Set it to full private.
Step two: Fill it with the most vile, awful, mind-raping things I can legally find. Y'know: goatse, tubgirl, @aliceif 's profile background
Step three: Anyone who asks me for my Fazebrook and InstaTweet profile access gets this
Step four: I don't get that job / apartment, but it's a win because fuck anyone who requires that info. I hope they have nightmares for the rest of their lives from what they've seen.
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@tufty said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
@ben_lubar said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
There's a difference between knowledge and information.
Yes, but it's not what you think it is. Think about the root of the word "knowledge".
You are being incredibly dense regarding the subject at hand.
@ben_lubar was saying that if:
- You are in a position that you need to make a decision.
- It is illegal for you to use information X,Y, and Z as part of your decision making process.
- You seek out information X, Y, and Z anyway.
Then you are almost certainly going to use information X, Y, and Z illegally.
You are saying that it is illegal to make a bomb, but learning how to make a bomb is not a strong indicator that you will actually make a bomb. This may be true, but it does not contradict the point that @ben_lubar was making.
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@Lorne-Kates said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
@aliceif 's profile background
Don't be so mean to Yui ...
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@aliceif She seems bewildered to be mentioned in such a context.
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@Magus That's my profile background.
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@error said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
@fbmac said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die.
Is that the correct translation? I always thought it was "Where Do You Want To Go Today?"
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@aliceif I know. I meant the slightly wider context.
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@aliceif said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
@Lorne-Kates said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
@aliceif 's profile background
Don't be so mean to Yui ...
That background has a sane color scheme, isn't flashing, and doesn't cause seizures. I do not believe it is your background image.
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@Lorne-Kates and I'm not clicking her profile to check, do not want seizures
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@fbmac I look the risk. It is true!
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@abarker No, ben was saying something other than that, and he was as wrong as you are.
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You are saying that it is illegal to make a bomb, but learning how to make a bomb is not a strong indicator that you will actually make a bomb. This may be true, but
... if something goes boom, your having sought that knowledge may be used against you in accusing you of making a bomb.
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@tufty said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
@abarker No, ben was saying something other than that, and he was as wrong as you are.
Wow, you said two things in that post and only two of them were wrong!
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@tufty said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
@abarker No, ben was saying something other than that, and he was as wrong as you are.
Really? Are you just gonna stamp your feet and insist that you are right, or are you actually going to provide an argument?
@HardwareGeek said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
You are saying that it is illegal to make a bomb, but learning how to make a bomb is not a strong indicator that you will actually make a bomb. This may be true, but
... if something goes boom, your having sought that knowledge may be used against you in accusing you of making a bomb.
Yes, but @tufty is saying that simply looking for bomb designs does not mean you will actually make a bomb. Once you add in that there was an explosion, then all bets are off.
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@abarker said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
Really? Are you just gonna stamp your feet and insist that you are right, or are you actually going to provide an argument?
This is feeling reminiscent of a certain forum game...
FOS at @HardwareGeek. Everything you say, do or even not do can, will be, and has been used against you in a court regardless of lawfulness.
@yamibot @vote
!for @HardwareGeek
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@dcon said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
Stop talking with your mouth full!
That's what I told your mom!
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@Lorne-Kates said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
Step one: Create an alt profile. Set it to full private.
Step two: Fill it with the most vile, awful, mind-raping things I can legally find. Y'know: goatse, tubgirl, @aliceif 's profile background
Step three: Anyone who asks me for my Fazebrook and InstaTweet profile access gets this
Step four: I don't get that job / apartment, but it's a win because fuck anyone who requires that info. I hope they have nightmares for the rest of their lives from what they've seen.I would suggest:
- Create a private profile under the name of the person who is asking you for this information.
- Fill it with data that is creepy but legal and unlikely to be related to you or the person asking you for the information.
- Make the password something really creepy, but phrased as if it's them talking about you.
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I agree that the startup idea is pretty scummy, but I kind of want these services to become prevalent enough that people get burned and realise that they need to treat FB/IG etc with as much suspicion as they'd treat any other company.
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@bb36e said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
I agree that the startup idea is pretty scummy, but I kind of want these services to become prevalent enough that people get burned and realise that they need to treat FB/IG etc with as much suspicion as they'd treat any other company.
I wonder if this is just an elaborate way of stealing social media credentials from business owners.
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@ben_lubar said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
- Make the password something really creepy, but phrased as if it's them talking about you.
A friend of mine used hist personal email server to insult awful service companies. Imagine asking their sales rep to spell out your email like comcastsucksdonkeyballs@lubar.net to see if it is correct.
- Fill it with data that is creepy but legal and unlikely to be related to you or the person asking you for the information.
Like some 50 shades of Trump banging his daughter
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@ben_lubar said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
@dse said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
lubar.net
It's actually lubar.me.
discoursesucksdwarfballs@lubar.me ?
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@error said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
and with strange aeons even death may die
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@dse said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
Like some 50 shades of Trump banging his
daughterson
Donald Trump triumphs as hero of 'sensual and tawdry' erotic novel
Trump Temptation: The Billionaire and the Bellboy, by comedian Elijah Daniel, zooms to No 1 in Amazon’s gay and humorous erotica charts
You're welcome.
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@anonymous234 but it's strange aeons. anything can happen in strange aeons
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Is there really that much gay and humorous erotica that Amazon has a chart for it?
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@arcanine said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
gay and humorous erotica
I suspect that "humorous" is just there to provide plausible deniability for authors and readers. "Ha ha, of course I don't actually get turned on by gay centaur-on-unicorn stories, I just read them for the lulz! Ha ha"
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@anonymous234 said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
gaycentaur-on-unicorn stories,Actually... I remember reading something like this some time ago...
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@arcanine said in Clever tenant ipsum dolor sit amet..:
Is there really that much gay and humorous erotica that Amazon has a chart for it?
Just wait till you see what's up with this year's Hugos.
Edit: link
