Cafeteria Drone WTF



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    There is with the way you do it.

    I'm sorry if you can't understand the simple concept of typing in numbers into a machine that gives you the answer.

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    That is because you like to be cruel to them.

    I would find it more demeaning as a cashier if a customer told me they expected a quarter back before I had a chance to type it in and see for myself. By not saying anything, I give them an opportunity to type it in and give me the change like they would do under any other circumstances.

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    Then use it responsibly

    Oh.. there's a "responsible money handler" manual somewhere? Giving money to someone asking for money is it. Plain and simple. I'm not in the middle of the inner-city or slums, so we don't have donation jars and beggars at every corner.

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    BTW - you don't look down on people? You sure seem to. You even look down on our very own moderators:

    Poor, poor MPS. Trolling the logs because he is locked out of the channel.

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    I mean, christ, show some respect, huh?

    You're one to be talking.



  • @AbbydonKrafts said:

    I'm sorry if you can't understand the simple concept of typing in numbers into a machine that gives you the answer.

    I know abby, no one is as smart as you. We all get it.

    @AbbydonKrafts said:

    By not saying anything, I give them an opportunity to type it in and give me the change like they would do under any other circumstances.

    That might be what you tell yourself, but there are an awful lot of people in this thread who disagree with you.

    @AbbydonKrafts said:

    I'm not in the middle of the inner-city or slums, so we don't have donation jars and beggars at every corner.

    Ahhh more condescending behavior. 

    It must be so lonely in your ivory tower.

     @AbbydonKrafts said:

    Poor, poor MPS. Trolling the logs because he is locked out of the channel.

    Actually, I can go on the channel anytime I want to. I just choose not to, ever since it turned into abby and ling's personal ego contest.

    @AbbydonKrafts said:

    You're one to be talking.

    I am nothing but respectful to clerks/other people that I meet. People who treat other people rudely? No, I am not very nice to them.

    If you want me to be respectful of you, you could try being respectful of other people.



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    I know abby, no one is as smart as you. We all get it.

    It has nothing to do with being smarter than the clerk. The machine does the work. If I was to go do that job right now, I'd still let the register do the work. No sense in working it in your head.

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    That might be what you tell yourself, but there are an awful lot of people in this thread who disagree with you.

    And there are people that agree with me. I make polite conversation with all the cashiers if time permits (no line, etc), so I'm far from demeaning or sadistic with them.

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    Ahhh more condescending behavior.

    If you've never heard the general populace use "inner-city" and "slums" before, you are the one stuck in an ivory tower. Those terms are a fact of life. "Beggar" is also the term for people begging for money. It's an all-inclusive term because even working people with a house do it (they have been outed before).

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    I just choose not to, ever since it turned into abby and ling's personal ego contest.

    If you'd quit using the word "fuck" every other word and insulting people because of their incomes and whatnot, we could care less. I thought it was pretty fun when you were around. So do the others. But recently, you ignite fires everytime you come in. It's completely harsh and uncalled for.

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    If you want me to be respectful of you, you could try being respectful of other people.

    I've never disrespected anyone I've encountered in public. I may dislike some of them, but it never shows in my expression, manner, or speech.



  •  @AbbydonKrafts said:

    It has nothing to do with being smarter than the clerk.

    That sure seem to be all it is about for you.

    @AbbydonKrafts said:

    I make polite conversation with all the cashiers

    So you just assume that every cashier must want to talk to you? Jeez. Ego-mania.

    @AbbydonKrafts said:

    Those terms are a fact of life.

    No, assuming no one outside the big city is poor is not a fact of life. It is a sad look into superiority complexes.

    Where you live must be so great that no one is poor, everyone is so wealthy that no one could use a helping hand I guess.

    Or maybe the poor people all tried to get minimum wage jobs, got treated like crap by arrogant customers and decided to move to the city and live out of a box.

    @AbbydonKrafts said:

    But recently, you ignite fires everytime you come in.

    Hey what can I say? Take a bunch of people with superiority complexes, and rude and abusive behavior and make them OPs and people get upset. Also, make sure that OPs don't even have to have anything to do with TDWTF... that oughta help.

    @AbbydonKrafts said:

    I may dislike some of them, but it never shows in my expression, manner, or speech.

    Not from what I have seen.

     

     

     



  • @bstorer said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    The very fact that Welpog describes it that way should tell you he is literally insane.  It's not the act of retrieving a few more pieces of metal that is a pain, it's having to deal with customers who want to do obnoxious stuff like this.
    Not to mention that, if you've ever looked at modern POS software, they typically have fast-entry options for the price rounded to the nearest dollar and the next 1 or 2 larger bills. For example, if the total is $5.70, you can hand the cashier $6, $10, or maybe even $20 and result in only 1 button press for them. Giving them $6.20 to upgrade to quarters requires them to type the price in, while everyone in line behind you fidgets angrily.

    That's pretty much the reason, especially when combined with the fact that a lot of people tell you they have change after you've already hit the button. You'd be surprised how much quicker things move by just cutting out two button presses. The OP is still a massive WTF, of course.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @morbiuswilters said:

    How can you live on this planet and not realize that you are inconveniencing the cashier? 
    How is helping the cashier not to run out of small change inconveniencing the cashier?



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    @AbbydonKrafts said:
    But recently, you ignite fires everytime you come in.
    Hey what can I say? Take a bunch of people with superiority complexes, and rude and abusive behavior and make them OPs and people get upset. Also, make sure that OPs don't even have to have anything to do with TDWTF... that oughta help.
    IRC is serious business.

    Silliness aside, that is the problem with IRC channels that have too many operators. If your channel is +s (which I believe #TDWTF is), then there's no reason to have so many ops. Pretty much the only reason you want to have a lot of ops is to make sure that the channel is never without an active op in order to keep the spammers out, but +s pretty much means spammers will never show up. The more ops given out, the more likely one of those ops will abuse the power.

    Ideally you want a lazy +q who rarely ever visits the channel but is available for complaining about ops. That's how #kevex works. I'm the primary op there, but I'm not +q. If I kick/ban/devoice/laser someone who doesn't deserve it, I can be held responsible for it. It's worked for the last five years, so I figure it's a pretty good system.

    Long story short, if you think the situation in #TDWTF is bad, make your own channel and assign +q to someone you can trust to be lazy and fair.



  •  @PJH said:

    @morbiuswilters said:

    How can you live on this planet and not realize that you are inconveniencing the cashier? 
    How is helping the cashier not to run out of small change inconveniencing the cashier?

     

    Indeed. I cashiered for extra money in High School and part of college, and my coworkers and I always appreciated when a customer paid in change and small bills. When everyone pays in twenties and tens it means you're calling the manager to replenish your change supply quite often, which inconveniences everybody. We all kept small pocket calculators by our tills for the event of last minute change (ie,  people realizing they were going to get 94 cents back in change and digging out a penny and a nickel.) It was never a big deal. 



  • @Welbog said:

    Silliness aside, that is the problem with IRC channels that have too many operators.

    I agree 100% and have argued this since the beginning.

    @Welbog said:

    Long story short, if you think the situation in #TDWTF is bad, make your own channel and assign +q to someone you can trust to be lazy and fair.

    Already done. Thanks anyway.



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    Already done. Thanks anyway.
    Who's +q? I hope it's either you or morb.

    I came late to Morb's recent thread so only now am I up to speed on the goings on of #TDWTFMafia. I think that is indeed the right choice, if I understand what happened to #TDWTF correctly. Ling shouldn't give ops to forum admins. Forums and IRC are related by userbase and interest only. If Michael wants to start an official TDWTF channel, then he can moderate it all he wants. I wish I could have been there when this happened.

    Even #kevex operates this way. Our related forums' admins only have +h in #kevex, and our IRC admins are just regular users on the forums. I wouldn't want it any other way.



  •  @Welbog said:

    I wish I could have been there when this happened.

    Well, what happened is that we all noticed in the logs for the night prior Mikey joining the channel and immediately requesting ops and trying to assert his power. He tried to post the forum rules, but couldn't figure that out. So he posted them to pastebin instead.
    After this, he went on to flame me and a lot of other forum regulars and told everyone how he was going to 'clean up the forums'. He claimed he would put and end to any bickering or name calling (what the forums are pretty much based on) and making it all polite pleasantries (see his rules in Morb's thread).

    He continued on to be whined to by Lingerance and dtech, where he made the decision to ban me whenever he saw me, both from the forums and the channel.

    This is where a lot of anger towards him came from. With no actual judgement of his own, and without talking the issue out, he made the decision to ban people.
    Clearly, this is not appropriate mod behavior.

    This was two nights ago.

    Last night, we were all having a discussion, and suddenly Mikey enters the channel. Without any kind of provocation he attempts (and fails to kick and ban me). He eventually succeeded in kicking me, despite just about everyone there arguing against his decision.

    So anyway, you asked, and I thought I should let you (and anyone who wants to know) what happened. This is why we know Mikey is not who we want around here. AmmoQ is a great mod on his own, let's let Morb's thread play out and talk as a community, and not let Mikey the forum/IRC nazi ruin our community.



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    This was exactly my point, thank you. People like abbydonkrafts and perdidopunk are so full of themselves that they feel they have the right to demean people for no reason. 

     

     

     Note that I never said that the clerk is an idiot. In fact, I made certain to point out that I'm not demeaning to anyone, and I'm certainly not a condescending or demeaning person in my daily dealings with people employed in customer service or retail positions. I make a point to always speak in a very polite tone, and to be patient if I'm waiting for a cashier to complete a transaction or some such thing. My biggest gripe, like I stated earlier, is when people in these positions take an attitude that I as a customer am somehow inconveniencing them, either just by being there to pay for an item or service, or by say, asking for certain denominations of money back as change. People should take pride in the work they do, and if they work directly with customers, then they should pride themselves on providing efficient and friendly service. I pride myself on being responsive to user requests and inquiries, maintaining very quick turnaround time on deliverables, and ensuring that the code I deliver is of high quality. Why shouldn't someone in a customer service position be expected to deliver service of a similar quality level?

     The fact of the matter is that a lot of people working in retail positions are extremely cynical and standoffish with customers. Maybe this isn't as prevalent in other areas of the world. I live in NJ. People are assholes here. I understand that many or most customers in any store here often act like complete jerks toward the employees, and that as a result those employees might put up a rather thick defensive layer of standoffishness. Does that mean that when a customer approaches, smiling, and says, "Hi!" while holding out $13.50 for an $8.47 purchase, he should receive nothing but a scowl in return? I would think that being ready with an easily handled amount of cash for payment would make the clerks job easier.

     The times that I've seen clerks get most annoyed are when older folks make purchases by carefully counting out exact change. Yes, this does slow down the line, but at the same time, the older person standing there is trying to be polite and is actually counting up the money for the clerk, which should really be the clerk's job. Why should some 17 year old punk feel that he has the right to stand there and scoff at an old lady for trying to pay for something with exact change?

     Back to my original rebuttal about effort put forth in school - I really do believe that people should be qualified enough to perform the job they are hired for. If a person is hired to be a cashier, then he or she should should possess the basic skills of addition and subtraction required to count change out for a customer. This is the one prequisite skill for this position. Lacking that skill is not an excuse to be put off when a customer presents an odd combination of money for a purchase in hopes of receiving a certain amount of change back. A clerk should never be rude or curt with a customer, and vice versa. As I stated earlier, if a clerk has trouble figuring out why I handed him or her $13.50, I will kindly point out that I'm looking for a five and three pennies back on my $8.47 purchase. This is not demeaning. 

     

    I won't deny that I do enjoy the lofty position of academia, but it has nothing to do with sitting in an ivory tower and looking down on other people. Perhaps stating that people who apply themselves academically "work harder" than those who don't was a faux pas; my intention was to point out that it takes many years of discipline and hard work to earn a degree in a technical field, and it takes five minutes to fill out an application to work at Kohl's. Perhaps the clerk at Kohl's has been working very hard on something, and perhaps he or she hasn't. I'm inclined to believe that a 17 year old cashier in a department store who can't count change has not been working very hard, since the only thing that kids have to work on is school. Even athletes, musicians, artists, and others who might not be so focused on academics can still do well in school, with only a modicum of extra effort. I've spent plenty of time pursuing all of these things and I managed to pull through with all of them pretty well. I don't attribute this to having supernatural abilities or something; it just takes diligence and hard work. Anybody with normal mental function can learn basic math. In fact, I maintain that anyone can learn advanced calculus. All it takes is the will to do so. If anything, I think this is the least demeaning position I could take toward those who are not as well educated as I am. They're not idiots, they're not incapable, they just haven't put forth the effort to learn the same things that I have. That doesn't give them the right to perform poorly as an employee or to disrespect customers, any more than my college degree gives me the right to treat them like inferior people (it doesn't, and I don't).

     

    In short, MPS, please read carefully and consider what a person has written before eagerly marching off to war against him. Please don't put words in my mouth and insinuate that I'm disrespectful toward anyone, except for maybe those who make a point to insult me in a childish, backhanded way. I shouldn't always have to completely qualify every single statement I make to avoid being picked apart. This isn't a court of law.



  • @PerdidoPunk said:

    it takes many years of discipline and hard work to earn a degree in a technical field
    I'd like to point out that if this were true, TDWTF wouldn't exist.



  • @Welbog said:

    @PerdidoPunk said:

    it takes many years of discipline and hard work to earn a degree in a technical field
    I'd like to point out that if this were true, TDWTF wouldn't exist.

    In my line of work this is known as "BOOM! HEADSHOT!" 



  • @PerdidoPunk said:

    Note that I never said that the clerk is an idiot.
     

    Implying is just as bad as saying the actual words.

    @PerdidoPunk said:

    The fact of the matter is that a lot of people working in retail positions are extremely cynical and standoffish with customers.

    Here you go generalizing them from your ivory tower again...

    @PerdidoPunk said:

    I live in NJ. People are assholes here.

    QFT.

    @PerdidoPunk said:

    I would think that being ready with an easily handled amount of cash for payment would make the clerks job easier.

    Unfortunately, that is not what this discussion is about. Re-read  abby's post to see what we are talking about.

    @PerdidoPunk said:

    Why should some 17 year old punk feel that he has the right to stand there and scoff at an old lady for trying to pay for something with exact change?

    This is the perfect example of your demeaning form of speech. That is how I know you are one of those people that are assholes to clerks.

     And BTW, has it ever occurred to you, the clerk might be impatient, because he knows that there will be some asshole in line that only views him/her as "some 17 year old punk" and will be nothing but nasty to him for the line taking so long?

    @PerdidoPunk said:

    If a person is hired to be a cashier, then he or she should should possess the basic skills of addition and subtraction required to count change out for a customer.

    But abby's post said this person should do nothing but use the machine. You cannot have this both ways.

     @PerdidoPunk said:

    I won't deny that I do enjoy the lofty position of academia

    How is being a student or graduate 'lofty'. It doesn't make you any better than anyone else.

    What about someone who holds the same position as you, makes the same money, and produces comparable work, but didn't go to school? Are they somehow not as good as you?

    @PerdidoPunk said:

    my intention was to point out that it takes many years of discipline and hard work to earn a degree in a technical field, and it takes five minutes to fill out an application to work at Kohl's.

    And my intention was that the guy you think is a moron might be having a bad day. And he might be someone who could do your job, without going to school (IE: paying for an education). So who would be the 'better' person here?

    @PerdidoPunk said:

    since the only thing that kids have to work on is school.

    Perhaps you did. The rest of us might have had other things going on too.

    @PerdidoPunk said:

    I think this is the least demeaning position I could take toward those who are not as well educated as I am.

    You really hold your education above everyone's head. It is very sad. Perhaps other people have other things they can be proud of besides their degrees?

    @PerdidoPunk said:

    Please don't put words in my mouth and insinuate that I'm disrespectful toward anyone,

    I definitely don't have to put words in your mouth, every post you have made confirms my position on this better than I ever could. Your elitist, condescending attitude makes me shudder. I feel sorry for the people around you that you have to deal with.



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    BTW - you don't look down on people? You sure seem to. You even look down on our very own moderators:  <AbbydonKrafts> Err.. how old is Michael [Casadevall]? That log looks like he doesn't know how to do anything.

    I mean, christ, show some respect, huh?

    Are you the moron that sold me this cheap shitty sarcasm detector?



  • *yawn*

     

    Man, is this thread still going?  Well, that's it, then.  I didn't want it to come to this, but you have forced my hand.  I will kill one cashier every hour until my demands are met.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    I will kill one cashier every hour until my demands are met.
    But... but... you didn't list any demands!



  • @bstorer said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    I will kill one cashier every hour until my demands are met.
    But... but... you didn't list any demands!

    Hmm.. yes, that might prove a sticking point...

     

    How about:

    1) lay this thread to its eternal rest

    2) moar beer

    3) ammoQ's +5 Staff of Moderation 



  • Well, now that the swamp thread has a stake though its heart, we need a new place for all the flaming and uselessness. Unforunately, this one doesn't have a village idiot, but I'm sure we can find one nutcase looks like a promising candidate, but she lacks the complete inanity we came to know and love.

    Has anyone seen Swampy recently?



  • How old is this thread? I only just noticed it.

    I see it as in both cashier and customer's convenience to pay say £5.05 for a £1.05 charge, but people get into a routine and unusual things like rounding .89 with .14 can throw them as it can be difficult to categorize at a glance without daily experience of it.

    In the UK (at least up north) if the total cost is say £1.20 and I pay with a £5 note the cashier will often ask if I have the 20, particularly bus drivers who have to reach under the seat and rummage around in a bag of loose change. Bus drivers also seem to hate it when you pay with a £10 or £20 because they don't get given enough change at the start of their shift, but the alternative is all the pennies and 2s that I have lying around - cash machines for some reason don't give out £5s any more. It mostly happened on my way out, before I could get to a bank or buy some chocolate to get the change. Then the fares got higher and I started cycling.

    @PerdidoPunk said:

    the only thing that kids have to work on is school

    I would say that the only thing an adult would have to work on if they went back to their teens would be school. At that age I was dealing with and learning all kinds of stuff, relationships or lack thereof, trying not to get punched by older kids, trying to find something I'm good at, and pressure from peers to somehow be different in some vague but significant way.

    it takes many years of discipline and hard work to earn a degree in a technical field

    they just haven't put forth the effort to learn the same things that I have

    To be upfront, I don't have a degree and I'm past the bitterness at those who pressured me into feeling it was the be-all and end-all of life. But it's still frustrating trying to explain to people why things are often more complicated than that. Low self esteem completely undermines discipline and effort - I'd often be off not studying but trying to fix a feeling of lacking something, like I needed to be around people more of the time. Nothing really gave any sense of fulfilment or accomplishment, it was all lost in a vast sea of "you quiet aren't you" "you should try harder" "you should be louder" "you need to make more effort" "you can do this". All misguided attempts at advice but all things that just aren't as simple as that, and they add to the problem. What I really wanted to hear was "you're good as you are", but I didn't know it at the time.

    I learned computing throughout because it is my passion since I was little. Where does one obtain the will to learn calculus?


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @ComputerForumUser said:

    In the UK (at least up north) if the total cost is say £1.20 and I pay with a £5 note the cashier will often ask if I have the 20, particularly bus drivers who have to reach under the seat and rummage around in a bag of loose change.
    I await the time where, at 1830, it's going to be cheaper to get a taxi from Gateshead to Newcastle than to get the bus.

    For one person.

    </rant>



  • @PJH said:

    I await the time where, at 1830, it's going to be cheaper to get a taxi from Gateshead to Newcastle than to get the bus.

    I assume that is because bus tickets have gone up, not taxi fares down, but it seems strange that the price change occurs at 1830 not 1700 (to catch those leaving work) or 1900 (to miss those leaving work). How do the railway fares compare for that journey?



  • @Physics Phil said:

    I assume that is because bus tickets have gone up, not taxi fares down,
     

    A former co-worker who used to live in Vancouver, Canada, told me that for a few years, it was actually cheaper to order up a Limousine for a cross-town trip than to flag down a taxi for the same trip. Especially during heavy traffic periods. Limos charged a flat rate while taxis charged mileage+elapsed time. $50 for a limo to get to the airport might sound pricey, but the same taxi trip might come to $75 or more. 



  • I don't see why one of the OP or the cashier has to be right and the other wrong.  Here is my conclusion from what I've heard:

    1.  THe second cashier was confused on what was wrong and missunderstood the situation.  Probably the same with the manager.
    2.  The first cashier either had a brain freeze and could think for a bit (most likely situation).   Or she really is an idiot and needs to get a job working in a factory doing the same thing over and over again instead of a fast paced customer facing position handling money.  Which one it is can only be determined by more visits to this cashier.
    3.  The OP does love to ego stroke and is probably a giant prick to cashiers.

     

    @AbbydonKrafts said:

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    I have an idea, just give them normal change like the rest of us.

    What are you trying to prove?

    I'm not trying to "prove" anything. Currency is currency. Therefore, I want my pennies and other small denominations converted up to quarters. A lot of cashiers have no problem entering it in and giving me correct change. But there are those that, for some reason, think they should do the math in their head. If I was in their position, I'd just use the register. It's as simple as that.

     

    As someone who is described by the following three sentances:

    I give strange amounts of change in order to get the kind of change back I want.
    I have worked as a cashier in my life.
    While I worked as a cashier I often just hit the $20.00 button or whatever no matter what amount of change they are giving me.

     I can tell you that I hate it when someone handed me $12 for a $6.xx item and then told me they wanted a fucking five dollar bill back.  No shit shirlock, I assumed you wanted me to touch these two dollars because it makes them fucking lucky bills and then hand them back to you.  If something was $10.89 and someone handed my $11.14 the first thing I would do is hit the $11.00 button (1 click).  Then I would look at the screen and it would tell me (give back $0.11).  Then I would mentally add 11 and 14 and see that they want back $0.25.  That addition is basically an atomic operation and happens instantly.  Then I hand you a quarter.  

    Of course after this transaction you would then come to your message board full of computer professionals and call me a "wiseass."  However, my actions were carefully calculated to get you out of my fucking face in the shortest amount of time possible so that I can help the next customer.  By clicking the $11.00 button I saved 6 button presses.  Otherwise I would have pressed the following buttons: "cash", 1, 1, ., 1, 4, "done."  Of course if I mistyped one of those buttons I would have to clear it and retype it.  So really I was not being a wiseass but helping you get your food as fast as possible and the people behind you.  



  • @PerdidoPunk said:

    In fact, I maintain that anyone can learn advanced calculus. All it takes is the will to do so.

     

    In fact, I maintain that you are an idiot.  You seem to view the world as if everyone is exactly like you.  Everyone is equaly as smart as you; everyone was in the same situation as you when they were young; everyone could get a college degree if they worked hard enough.  

    The truth of the matter is that most people simply can not learn advanced calculus.  They aren't smart enough, and even if they tried, they would never in their entire life get it.  Stating this fact isn't being mean or putting people down, it is simply the stating the natural truth.  As an excercise, try this:  teach a downs syndrome victim how to multiply 3 digit numbers.  Thinking that anyone can learn advanced calculus just because you can is not modesty, it's ignorance of the world around you.  Just like some car engines have more horsepower than others, some people's brain has more ability to process, store, retrieve and manipulate data than other people's brain.  

    As stated above, some people are not smart enough to get a college degree.  I know some people that fall in to this category.  The world is a hard place for these people, but they can still make their way.  Union jobs are great for these people because the union can help them make sure their employer doesn't take advantage of them.  One of the best jobs for these people is construction.  Construction work pays extremely high and many positions require minimal mathematical abilities.  Furthermore, construction is a fucking awesome job in many ways.  I'm sure many construction workers think we are crazy for wasting our youths going to school just so that we could sit in front of a computer all day.

    The last point, that young people's only job is to go to school.  This one really brings you out as a fucking naive piece of shit.  Just because you were in a family just like the brady bunch doesn't make it so for everyone.  I knew people in high school that supported themselves.  I knew people in high school that supported themselves, their mother and a couple siblings.  Now you fucking sit there and say that their only job is school.  If they didn't go to their jobs after school and every weekend, their fucking family didn't eat. 



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    @AbbydonKrafts said:

    I make polite conversation with all the cashiers

    So you just assume that every cashier must want to talk to you? Jeez. Ego-mania.

    Your a fucking idiot.  Stop twisting words to mean what you want them to mean.  This is a blatant troll.  If I gived a rat's ass I'd go post a link to this in the forum moderation thread as one of the examples you asked for. 

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:


    @AbbydonKrafts said:

    Those terms are a fact of life.

    No, assuming no one outside the big city is poor is not a fact of life. It is a sad look into superiority complexes.

    Where you live must be so great that no one is poor, everyone is so wealthy that no one could use a helping hand I guess.

    He was just trying to say that he didn't have a a donation jar or begger outside to give change to like you keep telling him to do.  Usually when I don't want the change I just tell the cashier to keep it, but that's beyond the point.  His point stands as it is.  You tell him to give it to the donation jar.  He says there are no donation jars where he goes.  Take a break MPS, you don't have to turn every thread into a personal charade.

     

    PS.   I'm sorry for the triple post if anyone is annoyed, but I find that when I am replying to multiple people it's best to make each reply in it's own post. 



  • @MarcB said:

    A former co-worker who used to live in Vancouver, Canada, told me that for a few years, it was actually cheaper to order up a Limousine for a cross-town trip than to flag down a taxi for the same trip. Especially during heavy traffic periods. Limos charged a flat rate while taxis charged mileage+elapsed time. $50 for a limo to get to the airport might sound pricey, but the same taxi trip might come to $75 or more.

    This is why a lot of U.S. cities (like New York) have regulations that drivers must agree to a flat price when travelling outside the city, including the airports. 



  • @tster said:

    If I gived a rat's ass I'd go post a link to this in the forum moderation thread as one of the examples you asked for. 
     

    Go ahead. My point to abbydonkrafts is all done. 


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Physics Phil said:

    but it seems strange that the price change occurs at 1830 not 1700 (to catch those leaving work) or 1900 (to miss those leaving work). How do the railway fares compare for that journey?
    I mentioned the time merely to give an indication of 'early evening' - bus fares don't change with time of day, but taxi tariffs go up around the time the busses stop (I don't know the exact time, but it's probably either 2300 or 0000.)

    It's already cheaper for 4 people to share a taxi for the trip I mentioned than for 3 individual fares on a bus.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @operagost said:

    Their job is to accept legal tender unless otherwise posted (e.g., no $100).

    They can accept anything the store wants.  I don't know why you mention "legal tender" as that has nothing to do with this.  You could have said "cash" but instead you had to bust out "legal tender" and look like a fool.

     

    I'm sorry that you had to look it up.  If you had read the definition, you would have seen the difference between it and mere cash.  Thanks for quibbling, though. 



  • @operagost said:

    I'm sorry that you had to look it up.  If you had read the definition, you would have seen the difference between it and mere cash.  Thanks for quibbling, though.

    I didn't have to look up the definition, but perhaps you should.  Legal tender has nothing to do with purchasing goods at a store.  Your ignorance on this matter amuses me. 



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @operagost said:
    I'm sorry that you had to look it up.  If you had read the definition, you would have seen the difference between it and mere cash.  Thanks for quibbling, though.

    I didn't have to look up the definition, but perhaps you should.  Legal tender has nothing to do with purchasing goods at a store.  Your ignorance on this matter amuses me. 

     

    What amuses me is his response timing.



  • Many years ago  the $2  bill was put back into circulation for a brief time.  One day i was at the food court at the local Mall and decided to get something to eat.  When I handed the cashier drone a couple of $2 bills he looked at me like I was a little green man who just stepped off a space ship.  After trying to convince him that it was real money, he got the manager (another clueless drone).  At some point during all the arguing, one of them called Mall Security.  Apparently they decided that I was trying to pass off some sort of  counterfit money.  Fortunately, the Mall Cop was old enough to know what a $2 bill was and convinced them that everything was OK.



  • @El_Heffe said:

    Fortunately, the Mall Cop was old enough to know what a $2 bill was and convinced them that everything was OK.

    This is slightly off topic, but I have seen little things here in there that are kinda unusual just because the area wanted to be different. I went to Trenton, TN (this is out in the middle of nowhere) when I was traveling for my job once. The speed limit was 31 mph. Unless if you have a digital speedometer, what good is this ?



  • @pitchingchris said:

    The speed limit was 31 mph. Unless if you have a digital speedometer, what good is this ?

    You can go 30 without hitting the limit. Limits aren't "required" speeds. So, if there wasn't a "minimum" speed sign, you'd be legal doing anything under 31.



  • @El_Heffe said:

    Many years ago  the $2  bill was put back into circulation for a brief time.  One day i was at the food court at the local Mall and decided to get something to eat.  When I handed the cashier drone a couple of $2 bills he looked at me like I was a little green man who just stepped off a space ship.  After trying to convince him that it was real money, he got the manager (another clueless drone).  At some point during all the arguing, one of them called Mall Security.  Apparently they decided that I was trying to pass off some sort of  counterfit money.  Fortunately, the Mall Cop was old enough to know what a $2 bill was and convinced them that everything was OK.

    This idiotic story has been doing the rounds for as long as I can remember.  Also, the cashier doesn't have to take your $2 bills and the company may have a policy forbidding it.



  • @pitchingchris said:

    @El_Heffe said:

    Fortunately, the Mall Cop was old enough to know what a $2 bill was and convinced them that everything was OK.

    This is slightly off topic, but I have seen little things here in there that are kinda unusual just because the area wanted to be different. I went to Trenton, TN (this is out in the middle of nowhere) when I was traveling for my job once. The speed limit was 31 mph. Unless if you have a digital speedometer, what good is this ?

    It got you to notice it - that has to be worth something.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @El_Heffe said:

    Many years ago  the $2  bill was put back into circulation for a brief time.  One day i was at the food court at the local Mall and decided to get something to eat.  When I handed the cashier drone a couple of $2 bills he looked at me like I was a little green man who just stepped off a space ship.  After trying to convince him that it was real money, he got the manager (another clueless drone).  At some point during all the arguing, one of them called Mall Security.  Apparently they decided that I was trying to pass off some sort of  counterfit money.  Fortunately, the Mall Cop was old enough to know what a $2 bill was and convinced them that everything was OK.

    This idiotic story has been doing the rounds for as long as I can remember.  Also, the cashier doesn't have to take your $2 bills and the company may have a policy forbidding it.

    Why would a company have a policy forbidding it? To write such a policy would require them to actually know that $2 bills exist.



  • @Random832 said:

    Why would a company have a policy forbidding it? To write such a policy would require them to actually know that $2 bills exist.

    I assume most of the people who write policy for a company would be aware of the $2 bills existence.  Why would they refuse to accept it?  Because it is non-standard, doesn't fit anywhere in the normal cash drawer, is confusing to people and can't be given back as change without possibly upsetting a customer who isn't familiar with it.  If I were in such a position, I would probably create a policy refusing to accept $2 bills. 



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    If I were in such a position, I would probably create a policy refusing to accept $2 bills. 

    I'll just take my 2 dollar bills and go shop somewhere else, thank you. :)



  •  So it was 5.75, you gave him 11 dollars and he gave you back 5.27?  That must be some new math.



  • @pitchingchris said:

    @morbiuswilters said:

    If I were in such a position, I would probably create a policy refusing to accept $2 bills. 

    I'll just take my 2 dollar bills and go shop somewhere else, thank you. :)

    I suggest the 19th century. 


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