According to Medium: "Programming doesn't require passion or talent"
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[link text](link url)While I won't say I have tons of talent, I still like what I do. However, I saw this article posted at the top of reddit.com/r/programming yesterday and thought this articles was peppered with comments.
Enjoy this five minute read featuring the creator of PHP and Rails saying things like "Eh, it works, why bother fixing memory leaks when we can just restart the server every 10 requests"
I apparently angered someone enough to make a response on the same site, who called out even more things in the original article.
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I don't have any passion or much talent, and I think I do a better job at programming than those passionate people like Jeff Atwood.
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@blakeyrat You don't need anything to do a better job than Jeff Atwood.
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I think it's technically true. Nothing actually requires passion, and very few things require talent.
They're still very good things to have.
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@anonymous234 said in According to Medium: "Programming doesn't require passion or talent":
technically true.
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I used to have passion and I think I am half decent at it. But over the years, I just want to make lots of money.
I'd rather spend a life time riding a push bike or a motorbike or something.
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@theBread said in According to Medium: "Programming doesn't require passion or talent":
"Eh, it works, why bother fixing memory leaks when we can just restart the server every 10 minutes"
This is a misleading quote, because he actually said
I’ll just restart Apache every 10 requests.
I'm just going to point out this was written in a totally different language + doesn't make any goddamn sense. It's machine-generated engrish and I disregard it.
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@lucas1 said in According to Medium: "Programming doesn't require passion or talent":
I'd rather spend a life time riding a push bike or a motorbike or something.
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I preferred my job at Tesco stacking veg, I got paid to workout and I met lots of women my own age.
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@theBread said in According to Medium: "Programming doesn't require passion or talent":
PHP and Rails
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@theBread The last link was quite good.
The fact is, I know that as a programmer, I will never be the best. As in all things, I'm good enough to teach other people to be better at it than me. Similarly, my passion is limited. I need someone else around to bounce it off of or it doesn't work. Even so, I do enjoy it, both programming myself and helping others with it.
But you know what? I'm not talentless. I don't dislike that there are people better than me at what I do. At the end of the day, it's a good job that pays well, and I'm pretty good at it. I care about making products that work right and solve problems.
The main article really tries to devalue people in our profession as humans, and that's not okay for anyone, particularly a group of people who is pretty much guaranteed to have been bullied in school, and thought of as a bunch of raving lunatics who speak in languages no one understands, just because they have an interest in computers.
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Both articles have good points.
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You don't have to be a passionate genius to do a job. Most bus drivers, postmen, clerks and waiters aren't all that into their jobs, and yet the world keeps spinning.
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But if you DO have the passion, you will probably invest much more energy into your career, thus achieve better results. And unlike these other professions, lots of people seem to find programming fun and fulfilling. Therefore there's a culture of programmers being into programming, while there's no similar culture of postmen being into postmening. And that's a Good thing.
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I've found now that I care just about cash, I am a lot happier.
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@lucas1 You'll be even happier once you realize that the most important things in life are not things.
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@TimeBandit It ain't about things it is about not having to worry about being poor. As someone that has been in constant debt for years and only just worked myself out of it I like having lots of spare money. I can turn my attention to other things now.
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@TimeBandit
Money doesn't buy happiness, but it buys a better grade of misery.
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@anonymous234 said in According to Medium: "Programming doesn't require passion or talent":
I think it's technically true. Nothing actually requires passion, and very few things require talent.
They're still very good things to have.It isn't required to be a programmer.
It is required to be a professional.
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@cartman82 said in According to Medium: "Programming doesn't require passion or talent":
no similar culture of postmen being into postmening. And that's a Good thing.
LOL
But there actually is.
Was just outside and a postman passionately said, "I'm a much better driver than [someone else]. They suck".
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@cartman82 said in According to Medium: "Programming doesn't require passion or talent":
there's no similar culture of postmen being into postmening.
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Oh... and...
Medium is full of shit...
Sign up for the tech category... get nothing but UX...
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@xaade said in According to Medium: "Programming doesn't require passion or talent":
Medium is full of shit...
Cross-reference it with tumblr…
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@dkf So it's the gateway drug to tumblr shit.
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@xaade It is worse, because it looks legit at first.
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Well, the readers are more diverse than the writers...
I post some replies and got a reasonable amount of likes.
But good lor if the authorship on Medium isn't full of hedonistic, egotistical, self-important snobs.
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@xaade said in According to Medium: "Programming doesn't require passion or talent":
But good lor if the authorship on Medium isn't full of hedonistic, egotistical, self-important snobs.
IOW, “Designers”.
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@blakeyrat said in According to Medium: "Programming doesn't require passion or talent":
@lucas1 said in According to Medium: "Programming doesn't require passion or talent":
I'd rather spend a life time riding a push bike or a motorbike or something.
Sorry you're underqualifed. I think an MFA is really the absolute minimum, though experience in spoken word poetry at open mic night can be substituted.
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If someone want me to have passion on writing tps reports they can go fuck themselves.
At wtfbank we dont have performance or anything relative to talent reviews. They train managers to rate people on things like passion for the job and if you celebrate each small victories, whatever that means.
So all leadership would be filled by idiots, if they followed this by the book. Some people circumvent it, so only most of them are retards.
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@blakeyrat move here and you can have all the bullshit from IT with a less than espresso stand like pay.
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@fbmac said in According to Medium: "Programming doesn't require passion or talent":
celebrate each small victories
YES! I was only an hour late today!