Ascendant is back!
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Hey guys!
Ascendant is back!
Yup. I'm back in this field, still in Korea(the south one, not the crazy one, as you all know).
But I'm not working for a Korean company! Muahahaha
It's only been two days though.
I think the company is technically, Australian.They have a solid product and they don't repeat building simple bulletin boards from scratch over and over.
So far, no wtf what so ever.
They use a VCS, a ticketing system and a project management system, etc. etc..
All good. Well, so far anyway.
Now I'm dealing with PHP and Ember.js. I have some experience with PHP but am very new to Ember.js.
How have you guys been?
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@Onyx The one with the family barbecues is the even crazier one.
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@Ascendant said in Ascendant is back!:
All good. Well, so far anyway.
There's always some crazy about. It's inevitable. But as long as it is only some and not mostly madness, it isn't worth worrying over too much.
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@Ascendant said in Ascendant is back!:
So far, no wtf what so ever.
You'll have to let @Weng know how you managed it. Congratulations!
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@Ascendant said in Ascendant is back!:
no wtf what so ever.
@Ascendant said in Ascendant is back!:
PHP
@Ascendant said in Ascendant is back!:
Ember.js.
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@Yamikuronue I had a nice job as a PHP dev for years. The language is a WTF, using it to build corporate websites is not. Your clients will end up buying from a PHP shop anyway since most of them want to choose a hosting provider themselves and don't want to spend a lot of money on the server. Also, some of them already have PHP devs in-house who will maintain the website.
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@asdf PHP is surprisingly pleasant if you go with a good IDE + OOP + type annotations. You almost forget what a piece of shit it is underneath. Then suddenly, it hits you with its inconsistent api or UTF strangeness bugs, and you remember.
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@cartman82 said in Ascendant is back!:
PHP is surprisingly pleasant if you go with a good IDE + OOP + type annotations.
Yeah, if you build a small website on top of a nice framework like Symfony or Laravel, it's quite pleasant. As soon as you have to either touch the standard library or optimize the backend performance because the number of users grew, it will become really ugly.
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@asdf said in Ascendant is back!:
Your clients will end up buying from a PHP shop anyway
BTW: The best way to never sell a website to a small business is to try and sell them a Java- or .Net-based solution. As soon as a non-technical small business owner hears "Microsoft stack" or "Java", they immediately think "bad software" or "vulnerabilities".
Source: Conversations with a few clients at my former job.
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@asdf said in Ascendant is back!:
@Yamikuronue I had a nice job as a PHP dev for years.
So does @Arantor, right? RIGHT?!
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@kt_ it's ok, he's a masochist, he's loving it!
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@Onyx shush, they don't all need to know!
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Huh. Figured you'd been executed for insubordination or chewing gum or something.
Or you have been, and a government agent is posting under your account to find other malcontents.
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@Lorne-Kates said in Ascendant is back!:
Or you have been, and a government agent is posting under your account to find other malcontents.
If so, he's definitely in the right place.
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Cheers everyone.
@Yamikuronue What's wrong with Ember.js? I simply have no idea if this is a good one or not. I've never heard of it before.
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@Ascendant remember Discourse? Ember.js
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@Buddy Discourse also uses PostgreSQL, and that's the RDBMS I like most.
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@asdf Discourse uses Postgres in the same way a slingshot uses bullets. Yeah, it can fling them at moderate speeds, but it kinda misses the point.
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@Onyx said in Ascendant is back!:
Discourse uses Postgres in the same way a slingshot uses bullets.
The slingshot hurls lead bullets or stone shards.
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@Yamikuronue so what you're saying is taut Discourse is doing it right, but only because it lives on its own fantasy land?
Sounds about right.
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@Onyx said in Ascendant is back!:
@Ascendant said in Ascendant is back!:
Korea(the south one, not the crazy one
That's the wrong robot!
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@Buddy but it could be just Discourse, not Ember itself that's wrong just like WordPress and PHP...
Okay, maybe not that example.@asdf I think I heard that the CTO is excited about switching to PostgreSQL in the future.
Again, what's wrong with this one? I have no experience with it so I have no idea.@kt_ You see? Doesn't it already look like there are lots of WTFs hidden in the path ahead?
But of all those things that's wrong with it, then what would be the right choice for an RDBMS, the back end language, and the front end language?
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@Ascendant SQL Server, C#, JavaScript + JQuery and maybe Mustache.js, but no more than that.
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@blakeyrat said in Ascendant is back!:
Mustache.js
is that like cornify.js, except it puts mustaches on everyone's avatar?
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@Ascendant said in Ascendant is back!:
But of all those things that's wrong with it, then what would be the right choice for an RDBMS, the back end language, and the front end language?
the web is a wtf. there isn't a non-wtf way to develop for the web apps
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@Lorne-Kates said in Ascendant is back!:
is that like cornify.js, except it puts mustaches on everyone's avatar?
No, because that would be abarker.js
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@Ascendant What are you currently using? MySQL? It's kinda okay I guess, but PostgreSQL has a few more features and less quirks.
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@Ascendant Horrid Performance.
