An honest recruitment ad?
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What is the world coming to? This is apparently a real ad.
http://www.seek.com.au/job/30771191?savedSearchID=6066677
I don't know if that will get one-boxed, or whatever magic could happen, so here's the summary:
"Meaningless Repetitive Work on the .NET Stack
Sometimes you just need to mix it up. It can't all be Silicon Valley in the Sunshine State. Someone has to keep the cogs turning on mission-critical infrastructure in large enterprises where all hope has been lost.Grease the wheels of capitalism with your tears, secure in the knowledge that we will pay you handsomely for your soul."
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No.*
* Betteridge's law of headlines
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Nice one.
How to draw competent programmers away from sexy startups and Joel test circlejerk jobs, and get them to carry the burden of your legacy ball of twine?
This is how.
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As long as they're honest about the "pay you handsomely" part...
Still, someone should tell them that no matter how massive and bad a pile of code is, it can still be refactored, and most likely should be unless they're intending to throw it away soon anyway.
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@anonymous234 PHB would tell me that there is risk refactoring that shitty code that happens to be working, so it's not true
people even make it worse duplicating stuff because they are afraid to break things. i disagree with this mentality, but have to suffer the consequences with the morons that do it
of course testing is off limits because there is only one tester and like 20 developers, so he only test some things managers think are worth testing
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@anonymous234 said in An honest recruitment ad?:
As long as they're honest about the "pay you handsomely" part...
Still, someone should tell them that no matter how massive and bad a pile of code is, it can still be refactored, and most likely should be unless they're intending to throw it away soon anyway.
Only if it has been 100% covered by standard unit and/or functional tests. Or even.. and this is generous, 60% coverage.
I've worked in several companies where the cost of "refactor, re-work" compared to "deal with this shit" is well in favour of the former.
Not that I agree; I am just pragmatic about what battles I am willing to fight.
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@anonymous234 said in An honest recruitment ad?:
As long as they're honest about the "pay you handsomely" part...
The only reassuring part of this ad was the last bit:
Normally I only work with organisations that value professional software development and professional software developers - but this one just paid too much to say No.
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@scudsucker THAT is a great job post. That guy needs a cookie for being smart and setting those realistic expectations up front.
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@fbmac said in An honest recruitment ad?:
people even make it worse duplicating stuff because they are afraid to break things.
Even worse, you might find (and want to fix) a bug that's been present for eons, thus breaking compatibility with all of the reports generated by it previously (nevermind that the previous reports were all wrong).
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"managed and native COBOL."
hah!
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@FrostCat there is a cobol that compiles into .NET byte code iirc
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@fbmac said in An honest recruitment ad?:
@FrostCat there is a cobol that compiles into .NET byte code iirc
Yeah, and I assumed that's what the posting was talking about.
