Mashup Challenge $100,000 prize - WTF if Spectate Swamp wins?



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    A simple binary search on their index file reduced the time to call up a work order from 2 1/2 minutes to 10 or 15 seconds.
     

    You jerk, you are contradicting yourself again: 

    http://channel9.msdn.com/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=199659#199659 

     @SpectateSwamp said:

    Linear searching. All my email, notes and text capture from the net are less
    than 200M. Thats like 200 books and still next to nothing text wise. I'm being
    generous with the 4Gig in a lifetime of reading. With linear search the first
    one pops up fast,
    as some of the matches are at the beginning. I don't search
    beyond the first hit.

     

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    The project needed a big guy. There was a couple times the Customer Service Representatives were getting chewed out. The manager came upstairs to get me to go and handle the situation. I told them let me know when anybody touched one of our girls. I would be down there in an instant. With the right attitude.

     Is that supposed to impress us, or what?



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    Mensa people are stups as well.  BLA BLA BLA smart people are stupid BLA BLA BLA

    Okay, let's not talk about "smart" versus "stupid", let's talk about success versus failure, since it is true that lots of Mensa members are failures at life. 

    Tell us, Spectate, did you succeed or fail at the following ventures: 

    • Convincing the world to care about your medicine stones. (No, the local news does not count, and a handful of dailywtf forum members does not count.  All of these people are laughing at you.)
    • Getting people interested in your alien videos
    • Getting elected in 1993
    • Getting one stranger to use and like SSDS
    • Entering the NetSquared Mashup contest

    All you do is Brag Brag Brag and Criticize Criticize Criticize, but the funny thing, you Failed Failed Failed at pretty much everything.

    Before you ask us what we've accomplished, nobody here is bragging about how they'll change the world with their Desktop Search application.  Nobody here is bragging about how they are going to save the world.  It is only you.

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    stups

    BTW, WTF is up with your childish slang?  "Stups", "Biggie Flatten 'Em", etc.  I feel like I'm in Grade 2 again.  Even Grade 9s have more self-respect than to talk like you. 



  • Brawn over Brains

    @CodeSimian said:

     Is that supposed to impress us, or what?
    Well they didn't go call on any of the skinny accounting geeks in the office. Brawn over brains sometimes. If I go downstairs and try to talk to an irate customer that is ready to hit a girl. Then the results wouldn't be in my favor. I did security work at one time between jobs. I had myself ready to punch people out. Psyched up rather than scared.

     

    How about a few of you chicken shits posting your pictures. Weak pale skinny or what.  



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    @CodeSimian said:

     Is that supposed to impress us, or what?
    Well they didn't go call on any of the skinny accounting geeks in the office. Brawn over brains sometimes. If I go downstairs and try to talk to an irate customer that is ready to hit a girl. Then the results wouldn't be in my favor. I did security work at one time between jobs. I had myself ready to punch people out. Psyched up rather than scared.

     

    How about a few of you chicken shits posting your pictures. Weak pale skinny or what.  

     

    Like I said, nobody here is trying to prove anything.  Just you.  Why don't you join an ultimate fighting tournament or something, if you feel the need to prove your manliness?  This is the wrong place for that. 



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    When I started work at Shaw cable (Capital cable at the time) There was a Mensa doing the conversion. She was knitting at work. How stupid.

    Which part is stupid, the knitting, or doing so at work?  Because I'd think being paid to knit is a sweet deal, provided you like knitting.@SpectateSwamp said:

    A simple binary search on their index file reduced the time to call up a work order from 2 1/2 minutes to 10 or 15 seconds.

    But, but, I thought linear searches are better than indexers!

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    A little common sense goes a long way.
    I'd consider following your own advice, sir.

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    The project needed a big guy. There was a couple times the Customer Service Representatives were getting chewed out. The manager came upstairs to get me to go and handle the situation. I told them let me know when anybody touched one of our girls. I would be down there in an instant. With the right attitude.
       See, I told you he thinks he's Superman!

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    I had my spring sheering.
      Just like a sheep, which is fitting, because you have the mental power of livestock.

     

     

     



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    @CodeSimian said:

     Is that supposed to impress us, or what?
    Well they didn't go call on any of the skinny accounting geeks in the office. Brawn over brains sometimes. If I go downstairs and try to talk to an irate customer that is ready to hit a girl. Then the results wouldn't be in my favor.
      That's because you're an idiot.  Some of us would certainly be capable of calming an irate customer with words.

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    How about a few of you chicken shits posting your pictures. Weak pale skinny or what.
    I can assure you that I am none of the things you listed.  There are plenty of pictures of me out there on the internet.  But I'm not going to bother posting them here, because I'm not really concerned with your opinion of me.  Frankly, you lack any credibility whatsoever.



  • @bstorer said:

    @SpectateSwamp said:
    How about a few of you chicken shits posting your pictures. Weak pale skinny or what.
    I can assure you that I am none of the things you listed.  There are plenty of pictures of me out there on the internet.  But I'm not going to bother posting them here, because I'm not really concerned with your opinion of me.  Frankly, you lack any credibility whatsoever.
     

    What's more, it's completely irrelevant.  This is not a bodybuilding forum or "hotornot".

    How many of the following inventions, which made Spectate the man he is, are a result of "brawn over brains":

    • digital camcorders
    • digital cameras
    • general purpose computing for the masses (video, pictures, etc.)
    • Internet
    • laptops

    Hint to Swampy: your digital camcorder was not designed by 2 guys duking it out in the boxing ring.  Maybe the people who designed your camcorder were geeks, and maybe you could beat them up.  Who gives a fuck?  You should be thanking them, you ingrate.

    Spectate, as another example, Bill Gates may be a geek, and he may have hordes of haters, but given the choice to be in his shoes (earned billions of dollars, changed computing for better or worse) or your shoes (genetically blessed with height and muscle, I guess; suffering from crippling mental illness) what do you think most guys would choose?  

    Spectate, can you make billions of dollars beating up on skinny geeks in Accounting?  Will history remember you because you were a big, dumb guy who painted his head yellow for the YellowHead election? 

    Oh, and Bill Gates has kids, so his legacy is assured, along with his place in business and computing history.  Spectate, your "legacy" of idiocy will die with you (sooner than later, we all hope.)



  •  And isn't Bill Gates' wife, Melinda, pretty good looking too?  See, geeks (with money) always gets the girl! How about you SS?  Got any women that dig the Santa look?



  • @WeatherGod said:

     And isn't Bill Gates' wife, Melinda, pretty good looking too?  See, geeks (with money) always gets the girl! How about you SS?  Got any women that dig the Santa look?

     

    Of course, she is a bit older now, but judging from her graduation pic, she was decent looking, back in the day: 

    What I find more interesting (and relevant), though, is Bill and Melinda's charity work.  They are using his billions of dollars to fight AIDS, malaria, and tuberculosis.  Meanwhile, SpectateSwamp is contemplating dancing with his medicine stones to "curse cancer".

    I wonder which approach is more likely to fail.  I wonder who's more likely to CHANGE THE WORLD: The Geek with a Billion Dollars, or the Big Guy with Medicine Stones?

    Another interesting point from the article: Melinda is actually more of a jock than Bill (not surprising, though).  Yet she still married him.  Brawn over Brains, huh?

    Melinda also outperforms him athletically. She runs once a week with a few friends - seven miles in an hour, a brisk pace - and tries to exercise five days a week. She has completed the Seattle marathon and climbed, with ropes and crampons, to the peak of 14,410-foot Mount Rainier.

     

     



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    The project needed a big guy. There was a couple times the Customer Service Representatives were getting chewed out. The manager came upstairs to get me to go and handle the situation. I told them let me know when anybody touched one of our girls. I would be down there in an instant. With the right attitude.
     

     

    Was that an attempt to impress someone? If so... FAIL.     



  • @CodeSimian said:

    Another interesting point from the article: Melinda is actually more of a jock than Bill (not surprising, though).  Yet she still married him.  Brawn over Brains, huh?

    Melinda also outperforms him athletically. She runs once a week with a few friends - seven miles in an hour, a brisk pace - and tries to exercise five days a week. She has completed the Seattle marathon and climbed, with ropes and crampons, to the peak of 14,410-foot Mount Rainier.

     

    I wonder who would be more intimidating in a match-up? Melinda Gates with crampons and rope or SS with his stones? 



  • Gates would be nothing.

    @WeatherGod said:

     And isn't Bill Gates' wife, Melinda, pretty good looking too?  See, geeks (with money) always gets the girl! How about you SS?  Got any women that dig the Santa look?

    Poor old Bill gets dragged into too many posts. I doubt he would have made the billions if he was born in Africa or some other underpriviledged state. He would be nothing.

    Don't worry when you come to Swamp Shack for your lessons. I haven't punched anybody since I was 17 or 18. People have punched me a couple times (didn't hurt much) and I didn't hit back.

    As for the smarties taking credit for all the high tech products. How about taking credit for our rivers. Can't eat the fish. Don't drink the water. Our forests are being mowed down. It isn't the trappers that are causing the demise of their prey. Wildlife doesn't live where there is no forest. The rest of the species on the planet will be better off, once the superior species is gone for good.

     

     



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    Poor old Bill gets dragged into too many posts. I doubt he would have made the billions if he was born in Africa or some other underpriviledged state. He would be nothing.
     

    What's your point, again?  My point was a geek like him can make a difference, despite your hatred for geeks.  What difference can you make with your brawn and your stones?

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    As for the smarties taking credit for all the high tech products. How about taking credit for our rivers. Can't eat the fish. Don't drink the water. Our forests are being mowed down. It isn't the trappers that are causing the demise of their prey. Wildlife doesn't live where there is no forest.

    Like I said before, hypocrite, if you really feel that way:

    • Throw away your camcorder
    • Disconnect your internet connection
    • Destroy your laptop
    • Sell your truck
    • Move out of your trailer

    None of those things would be possible without industrial society.  What are you doing to save the environment?@SpectateSwamp said:

    The rest of the species on the planet will be better off, once the superior species is gone for good.

    Yet here you are, still living, eating and breathing, draining the planet's resources and consuming far more than our prehistoric ancestors.  Why don't you take the first step and off yourself?

     



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    Poor old Bill gets dragged into too many posts. I doubt he would have made the billions if he was born in Africa or some other underpriviledged state. He would be nothing.
    Of course not.  But that doesn't take away from the fact that he wasn't born in Africa and did make billions.

     

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    As for the smarties taking credit for all the high tech products. How about taking credit for our rivers. Can't eat the fish. Don't drink the water. Our forests are being mowed down.
    That doesn't fall just on the smart people.  You, an idiot, rely upon the same environmentally detrimental products and technologies as a smart person does.  Don't kid yourself that because you walk along the river, you're somehow better for the environment.

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    The rest of the species on the planet will be better off, once the superior species is gone for good.
    That has nothing to do with anything.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    As for the smarties taking credit for all the high tech products. How about taking credit for our rivers. Can't eat the fish. Don't drink the water. Our forests are being mowed down. It isn't the trappers that are causing the demise of their prey. Wildlife doesn't live where there is no forest. The rest of the species on the planet will be better off, once the superior species is gone for good.
     

    BTW, it is not just highly industrialized societies that destroy the environment.  If you read Jared Diamond's Collapse, you would see that lots of "primitive" societies (e.g. American Indians, Easter Island natives) were also destructive to their environment.  In fact, the Easter Islanders cut down all their trees.  Once there was no food left, they destroyed themselves in a cannibalistic war. In his book, he shows that most of ancient societies that collapsed, did so because they destroy their own environment.

    Only difference is with modern technology, we are much more efficient at damaging the environment.

    I bet you would like Jared Diamond, despite him being a university professor and all.  He likes the outdoors, like you, and he is very interested in native cultures, like you.

    http://www.amazon.com/Collapse-Societies-Choose-Fail-Succeed/dp/B000IJ7Q32/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Diamond 

    Maybe some geeks are not so bad after all, huh?



  • @bstorer said:

    That doesn't fall just on the smart people.  You, an idiot, rely upon the same environmentally detrimental products and technologies as a smart person does.  Don't kid yourself that because you walk along the river, you're somehow better for the environment.
     

    He subscibes to the twisted fallacy that "I didn't personally create it, therefore I'm not responsible."  Here a quick rundown of his thought processes:

    • I just use my laptop - geeks designed it.  Since I didn't personally design my laptop, therefore geeks are unnecessary
    • I just use Windows - geeks designed it.  Since I didn't personally design Windows, therefore Windows is unnecessary
    • I just use my camcorder - geeks designed it.  Since I didn't personally design my camcorder, therefore geeks are unnecessary.
    • I just enjoy the fruits of industrialized civilization every day - I'm not personally responsible for them.  Therefore, industrialized civilization is bad and I am good.
    • <font color="#ff0000">I PERSONALLY DESIGNED SSDS.  THEREFORE SSDS IS THE ONLY IMPORTANT INVENTION IN THE WHOLE WORLD
      </font>
    Anything he did not personally create is just some BS he can take for granted.  Anything that is produced from his feverish imagination has to be worshipped like the 2nd coming of Christ.


  • @CodeSimian said:

    If you read Jared Diamond's Collapse
    He won't read it unless it has colorful drawings.  Is it a popup book?



  • @bstorer said:

    @CodeSimian said:

    If you read Jared Diamond's Collapse
    He won't read it unless it has colorful drawings.  Is it a popup book?

     

    Maybe Spectate will respect Jared Diamond if he grows his beard a bit longer?

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Jared_diamond.jpg 

    Of course, Diamond is a professor, so he probably has more than a Grade 9 education.  He's definitely gonna lose points for that.



  • @CodeSimian said:

    @bstorer said:

    @CodeSimian said:

    If you read Jared Diamond's Collapse
    He won't read it unless it has colorful drawings.  Is it a popup book?

     

    Maybe Spectate will respect Jared Diamond if he grows his beard a bit longer?

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Jared_diamond.jpg 

    Of course, Diamond is a professor, so he probably has more than a Grade 9 education.  He's definitely gonna lose points for that.

     

    I don't know.  He looks pretty skinny and weak to me... 



  • @bstorer said:


    @CodeSimian said:


    @bstorer said:

    @CodeSimian said:

    If you read Jared Diamond's Collapse
    He won't read it unless it has colorful drawings.  Is it a popup book?
     

    Maybe Spectate will respect Jared Diamond if he grows his beard a bit longer?

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Jared_diamond.jpg 

    Of course, Diamond is a professor, so he probably has more than a Grade 9 education.  He's definitely gonna lose points for that.

     

    I don't know.  He looks pretty skinny and weak to me...

     

    Hmm, I wonder who gets more respect from members of native cultures?  The university professor who takes the time to befriend them and study their culture with respect and understanding?  Or the big, dumb jerk who makes a mockery of all their beliefs?  It is pretty arrogant for Spectate to tell the Alberta First Nations people that he knows more about their own culture (medicine stones) than they do.

    Funny how Spectate is so opposed to smart people, but arrogance is just fine by him.  "Hey look everyone, I wrote the world's greatest program!  I'm big and strong!  Desktop Search Giants and small children tremble at the sight of me!"  You do not see most people here bragging about how smart they are.  Sure, we have called Spectate an idiot, but even a 5-year old developmentally challenged kid could see that.



  • Spectate is my god

    Hmmm, being new to the forums I have to ask - do I have to post something in this thread to be allowed into the forums?

    Maybe I should join the mashup with my bash script to gain credibility?

    And finally who is this Specate you talk about? Judging by how much he is mentioned I guess he is your leader. How can i worship him better, so that the light of his existence will shine upon me?

     

    Mikle 



  • @Mikle said:

    Hmmm, being new to the forums I have to ask - do I have to post something in
    this thread to be allowed into the forums?

    No, to be accepted among us, you have to be insulted by MasterPlanSoftware.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    I did security work at one time between jobs. I had myself ready to punch people out. Psyched up rather than scared. How about a few of you chicken shits posting your pictures. Weak pale skinny or what.

    Ladies and gentlemen: Behold! Spectate Swamp the Internet Tough Guy. Truly, if there has been any doubt that Spectate Swamp is one of the most versatile personages in this Web, that doubt has now been subsided: verily, Swampy's repertoire has a wide gamut of tricks, one more clever than another. A master debater and archetypical trouble-raiser! Someone please carve his face on the side of a very tall mountain!

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    I haven't punched anybody since I was 17 or 18. People have punched me a couple times (didn't hurt much) and I didn't hit back.

    Well, it doesn't seem to stop you from showing off your alleged toughness in public, though... Most people would stay quiet about things they aren't ever going to do. If you just off-hand mention stuff about being in security or punching people, that's definitely an intimidation tactic that has no place in a debate.

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    As for the smarties taking credit for all the high tech products. How about taking credit for our rivers. Can't eat the fish. Don't drink the water. Our forests are being mowed down. It isn't the trappers that are causing the demise of their prey. Wildlife doesn't live where there is no forest. The rest of the species on the planet will be better off, once the superior species is gone for good.

    Er... trappers aren't causing the demise of their prey? What are they doing then, hugging the caught animals and letting them go after letting them hang there for days on brink of starvation? "Wildlife doesn't live where there is no forest" -- I don't know, I've heard of these "grasslands" and "deserts" and whatnot, and even a whole group of not-very-wooded areas collectively known as "aquatic biomes" that have a whole giant bunch of swirlin' teemin' wildlife. Yes, the rest of the species in planet will probably be overjoyed if humans disappear, but guess what, that includes trappers, for the exact same reasons (blatantly contradicting what you said earlier). Unless, of course, you claim they are a whole different species altogether.

    Are you sure you are reading what you write?



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    @WeatherGod said:

     And isn't Bill Gates' wife, Melinda, pretty good looking too?  See, geeks (with money) always gets the girl! How about you SS?  Got any women that dig the Santa look?

    Poor old Bill gets dragged into too many posts. I doubt he would have made the billions if he was born in Africa or some other underpriviledged state. He would be nothing.

    Ok, let's take a different tack (away from enviromentalism).  I very much agree (for once) that Bill Gates born in completely different circumstances wouldn't become such a famous person today.  How have you helped the underprivilged?  You could do something as simple as buying a laptop:

    http://www.laptopgiving.org/en/index.php

    (Oh, and the makers are trying their best to make the devices as environmentally-friendly as possible).

     

    Don't worry when you come to Swamp Shack for your lessons. I haven't punched anybody since I was 17 or 18. People have punched me a couple times (didn't hurt much) and I didn't hit back.

    Somehow, I am not as worried about physical abuse as I am the mental abuse.

     

    As for the smarties taking credit for all the high tech products. How about taking credit for our rivers. Can't eat the fish. Don't drink the water. Our forests are being mowed down. It isn't the trappers that are causing the demise of their prey. Wildlife doesn't live where there is no forest. The rest of the species on the planet will be better off, once the superior species is gone for good.

    A good book to read would be "The World Without Us".  This guy actually would agree with you.  What is most important is that the environment will recover.

    http://www.worldwithoutus.com/index2.html

    Being a meteorologist and a (former) Boy Scout, I certainly have seen the impact of humans on our world.  It is sad that many companies cannot see past their own PR and take responsibility for their own actions.  But this isn't true for every geek out there.  Not all geeks are that bad and there are plenty out there who do great things.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

     Weak pale skinny or what.  

     

     

    yes, all of those. on the other hand, i have a girlfriend. Furthermore, if i am not very much more successful than you are, it will not be my brawn that is to blame. seriously dude, accept it. you are a failure.

     

    sorry im late 



  • @Mikle said:

    And finally who is this Specate you talk about? Judging by how much he is mentioned I guess he is your leader. How can i worship him better, so that the light of his existence will shine upon me?
    If you really want to worship him, you'd best jump off a cliff; it's for your own good.  Hopefully www.thestupidestmanonearth.com will help you understand why.  As for religion 'round these parts, we worship ammoQ, a fickle and distant god.



  • Need favicon.ico

    Can anyone help me out with a favicon.ico for http://www.thestupidestmanonearth.com ?

    I don't really have any ideas for it, but figure someone can come up with something pretty funny/clever.



  • Not done yet. Got Video

    @WWWWolf said:

    Ladies and gentlemen: Behold! Spectate Swamp the Internet Tough Guy.
    I'm too old to be tuff. Watch out though. I still got most of my teeth and can deliver a serious bite if cornered.

     

     

     @WWWWolf said:

    Er... trappers aren't causing the demise of their prey?
    You geeks need me to take you on the trapline during one of your Swamp Shack sessions. Some of those animals are very sneaky and survive. Some of the stories even choke me up. The wolf pack showed up a year later where the pack mother was trapped. Exact spot and milled around leaving lots of tracks. I found the Fisher the most interesting. You see their tracks more easily. Maybe I should post the whole trapline season. Skinning and stretching and all. Na. This is the wrong forum for that. Maybe on an animal rights forum. Some of the video even got the hunter forums squirming a little. Or I could have played the worst most brutal video from that trapline season at the NetSquared $100,000 MashUp Challenge. Boy that would bring the house down. I'd have to make a run for it. Maybe it's a good idea they turfed poor poor old SpectateSwamp.

     

     

     

     

     



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    @WWWWolf said:

    Er... trappers aren't causing the demise of their prey?
    You geeks need me to take you on the trapline during one of your Swamp Shack sessions. Some of those animals are very sneaky and survive. Some of the stories even choke me up. The wolf pack showed up a year later where the pack mother was trapped. Exact spot and milled around leaving lots of tracks. I found the Fisher the most interesting. You see their tracks more easily. Maybe I should post the whole trapline season. Skinning and stretching and all. Na. This is the wrong forum for that. Maybe on an animal rights forum. Some of the video even got the hunter forums squirming a little. Or I could have played the worst most brutal video from that trapline season at the NetSquared $100,000 MashUp Challenge. Boy that would bring the house down. I'd have to make a run for it. Maybe it's a good idea they turfed poor poor old SpectateSwamp.
     

    Once upon a time, in the far-off land of Alberta, there lived a simple man.  Let's call him...Bub.

    Bub had the curious habit of running into crowded movie theatres and yelling "Fire!", for no good reason.  Several arrests later, Bub said to himself frustratedly: "Why Is EveryBody ClueLess about The Importance of Fire Safety?"

    Next, Bub turned his attention to dog shows.  He entered his thoroughbred stallion of fine breeding into the county dog show.  After being summarily rejected on the grounds that his horse was, in fact, not a dog, Bub fumed: "Why Don't Those BasTards Appreciate A Fine Horse When See They One?  Together, We Could Have Won Best In Show!"

    Finally, Bub discovered the InterNet.  It was a Magical fairy-tale land where Bub could provoke anonymous strangers to his heart's content.  Seeing the furious reactions of those poor geeks warmed Bub's heart and made him giggle like a schoolgirl.  It was so much fun that Bub did not even bother to remain anonymous, unlike most Internet provocateurs.  He published his picture, name, and address, and even invited his angry victims to visit his house.  Strangely, nobody took him up on this offer.  Unfortunately for Bub, he enjoyed making others angry a bit too much.  One day Bub looked in the mirror and said to himself: "My God, I'm an old man!  I've wasted decades of my life, provoking people in the real world and on the Internet."  

    Soon thereafter, Bub died with no heirs, having left no significant mark on the world except for a handful of local newspaper clippings and postings in Internet message board archives.  His friends shook their heads sadly at his funeral and whispered: "Nobody ever lay on their deathbed wishing they had spent more time pissing people off for no damn good reason...."

    Spectate, won't you please learn from Bub's sad story AND GET A REAL HOBBY THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE RILING PEOPLE UP? 



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    The rest of the species on the planet will be better off, once the [b]SpectateSwamp[/b] is gone for good.
    FTFY 

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    Maybe it's a good idea they turfed poor poor old SpectateSwamp.
    QFT 

     



  • Paleos where are you?

    @CodeSimian said:

    Spectate, won't you please learn from Bub's sad story AND GET A REAL HOBBY THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE RILING PEOPLE UP? 
    Question. How do I get the Paleontologists riled up? I when to the photo forums and told them things like "video puts things in context" I went to the video production forums and tell them "break all the old video rules. Those that won't break. use" There were some pretty good discussions there before they were eliminated completely and poor poor old Spectate got banned. But I can't get the Paleos to rise to the bait. 3 world class dino mummy finds right here in the Shawmans back yard. Held for ransom. We got pictures we got video. We got dino mummies..

    It's OK to pick on people if one does it equally.

     



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    I when to the photo forums and told them things like "video puts things in context"
     

    But there are times when you can't video stuff.    

     

     @SpectateSwamp said:

    I went to the video production forums and tell them "break all the old video rules. Those that won't break. use"

     

    By "break all the old video rules", do you mean "don't edit it, shoot a lot of crap and then use it to search for aliens"?

     



  • @Renan_S2 said:

    By "break all the old video rules", do you mean "don't edit it, shoot a lot of crap and then use it to search for aliens"?
     

    You forgot "Get laughed at by everyone".



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    Question. How do I get the Paleontologists riled up? I when to the photo forums and told them things like "video puts things in context" I went to the video production forums and tell them "break all the old video rules. Those that won't break. use" There were some pretty good discussions there before they were eliminated completely and poor poor old Spectate got banned. But I can't get the Paleos to rise to the bait. 3 world class dino mummy finds right here in the Shawmans back yard. Held for ransom. We got pictures we got video. We got dino mummies..

    It's OK to pick on people if one does it equally.

    I tried to get the Paleontologists' attention by acting like a gigantic asshole.  That usually works, but for some reason they won't take the bait.  (Maybe, because they have better things to do with their precious time.)  How can I be an even bigger jerk? 

    It's OK to be an enormous jackass because I have no self-respect. 

     

    Sorry, can't help you there.  You could try dousing yourself with gasoline and setting yourself aflame, as a form of protest.  I hear that usually gets results.


  • @CodeSimian said:

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    Question. How do I get the Paleontologists riled up? I when to the photo forums and told them things like "video puts things in context" I went to the video production forums and tell them "break all the old video rules. Those that won't break. use" There were some pretty good discussions there before they were eliminated completely and poor poor old Spectate got banned. But I can't get the Paleos to rise to the bait. 3 world class dino mummy finds right here in the Shawmans back yard. Held for ransom. We got pictures we got video. We got dino mummies..

    It's OK to pick on people if one does it equally.

    I tried to get the PaleonTologists' attention. By acting like a GiGanTic AsShole?  That usually works. But for some ReaSon they won't take the bait.  (MayBe. BeCause they have BetTer things. To do with their PreCious TiMe.)  How can I be. An even BigGer jerk.

    It's OK to be. An enormous JackAss. Because I have no Self-ReSpect(ateSwamp). 

    FTFY. Maybe you need to spend a week in the SwampShack. To learn Swamp GramMar. 



  •  Site Update: I got a little time tonight, and I got the quotes pages DB driven. Formatting seems reasonable so far. Now I just need a submission page. All the backend stuff is done, so shouldn't take me too long. The following fields will be needed:

    QuoteText

    SourceText (Description of the actual source of the quote to be used as the text on the link)

    SourceURL (URL where the quote can be found)

    CreditText  (Quick text about who gets credit for finding the quote)

     

    Everything there will be required except for CreditText. I think I will allow that to be blank, and just display 'AnonySwamp' or something. At least to start, I will review each one and verify the source (and content I guess).  So there will be a field for approved and unapproved and submissions will not go live in real time. Hopefully that keeps Spectate from using the site as a soapbox.

     

    Sound on track? Anybody have an idea for the favicon yet? 



  •  CreditText should append Swamp to all names, right?



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    ]I'm too old to be tuff. Watch out though. I still got most of my teeth and can deliver a serious bite if cornered.

    Thank you for providing yet another textbook case of appeal to force. I rest my case.

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    Some of those animals are very sneaky and survive.

    But you still failed to answer the question. Yes, animals are sneaky and tend to survive in a lot of different kinds of conditions. Since the trappers, according to you, don't damage the environment – how, exactly, does trapping increase the chance of survival for the animals?

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    Na. This is the wrong forum for that. Maybe on an animal rights forum.Some of the video even got the hunter forums squirming a little. Or I could have played the worst most brutal video from that trapline season at the NetSquared $100,000 MashUp Challenge. Boy that would bring the house down.

    Lately, it seems to me that swampy's trolling has turned from a weird art form to something a bit more mundane, if at the same time it has also turned somewhat more disturbing, I guess we don't need any further proof that Swampy is a troll. But what kind of a troll? While stuff like above could be conceivably expected from ordinary trolls, they just don't do stuff like that. So far, the evidence points to an enigma quite unlike we have seen anywhere else.

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    Question. How do I get the Paleontologists riled up?

    Try to logically fit Intelligent Design in your rhetoric?

    (Hint, guys: please dig some nuclear fallout shelters in case he actually does that. Scientists pwn trolls. And I don't use that sort of terminology lightly – this site has taught me a very conservative use of the expression "WTF", for example.)



  • @CodeSimian said:

    You could try dousing yourself with gasoline and setting yourself aflame, as a form of protest.  I hear that usually gets results.
    Or at least gets you on the cover of a Rage Against the Machine album, which is practically the same thing.



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    Sound on track? Anybody have an idea for the favicon yet? 
    Well, there's always good ol' swampy.




  • So Dumb he doesn't know he is in the dumb class

    @WWWWolf said:

    But you still failed to answer the question. Yes, animals are sneaky and tend to survive in a lot of different kinds of conditions. Since the trappers, according to you, don't damage the environment – how, exactly, does trapping increase the chance of survival for the animals?
    Trappers are the only ones in the deep bush that see the destruction of the forest by logging. Other than the perps themselves. That's where the animals are threatened and us as well. As a kid there was never wind like there is now. More water in the rivers back then. No forest to hold the animals or moisture. Not rocket science. Don't need no degree.

     That's another sore point. My mother said I told her "I have a friend that is so dumb that he doesn't even know he is in the dumb class" What a system to destroys poor little kids. Those that can't do math are dumb, those that can't do science are dumb, poor spellers are dumb. When in reality none of that ever matters in REAL life. Other than the math profs, science profs and .001% of the population. That's what's Dumb.  Too busy to go trolling teachers. I'm sure it's been done lots anyway.



  • @bstorer said:

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    Sound on track? Anybody have an idea for the favicon yet? 
    Well, there's always good ol' swampy.


     

    Consider it done. If anyone has anything better, let me know.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    Those that can't do math are dumb, those that can't do science are dumb, poor spellers are dumb. When in reality none of that ever matters in REAL life. Other than the math profs, science profs and .001% of the population. That's what's Dumb.  Too busy to go trolling teachers. I'm sure it's been done lots anyway.
     

    Again, if you don't like smart people and you think math and science are useless:

    • Throw away your laptop
    • Disconnect from the Internet
    • Stop using your camcorder
    • Sell your truck

    None of those things would be possible without math and science.  And it is poor math skills that allow the government and big companies to cheat you out of YOUR money in very clever ways, so I don't know why you are complaining about learning math.  It makes me sick that everyone cares about money, but at the same time, nobody thinks math is important.  (Hint: you won't notice the banks and government nickel-and-diming you unless you know math.)

    As for having good spelling and grammar, they are part of good written communication skills.  You yourself admitted that you are not good at explaining things.  Even when you have a point to make, nobody knows what the fuck you are trying to say.  For example, instead of saying "Just change the spelling of the option wait to anything you want", you say "Just change wait to waait." 

    In today's world, if kids want to have a bright future, they better learn math and science, because that's where all the good jobs are.  If they want to end up as an old, muttering lunatic, they could go your route.

    So sorry that the world has changed and left you behind. 

    On the other hand, there is an award-winning ex-teacher (John Taylor Gatto)  who thinks that the North American educational system was designed to keep kids down.  Not because it teaches kids too much, like you say, but because it teaches too little:

    http://thememoryhole.org/edu/school-mission.htm

    http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/ 

    You may or may not agree with this guy (I don't know if I do), but at least he has something intelligent to say, unlike some people.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    Poor old Bill gets dragged into too many posts. I doubt he would have made the billions if he was born in Africa or some other underpriviledged state. He would be nothing.

    You can't prove this Spectate. I think even if he was born in Africa, he still would have made an impact on the world. I think its his vision and determination that make him so successful, not where he was born. He might not have had the opportunities in Africa at the time, but just because someone is born there, that doesn't mean he has to stay there. Back to the point, a person is what they make of themselves. Someone in Africa who reaches out to people and helps others is still successful, even though it might not necessarily meet our expectations of success (money).  Everybody can be something if they choose to be.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

     That's another sore point. My mother said I told her "I have a friend that is so dumb that he doesn't even know he is in the dumb class"
     

    1. You were probably in the same class as this friend.
    2. I don't believe you are actually capable of having friends, anyway.

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    What a system to destroys poor little kids. Those that can't do math are dumb, those that can't do science are dumb, poor spellers are dumb.
    My wife is a teacher.  My mother is a teacher.  Many of my friends are teachers.  They'd all tell you flat out that some kids are just dumb -- well, my wife probably wouldn't; she's too nice.

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    When in reality none of that ever matters in REAL life. Other than the math profs, science profs and .001% of the population.
      I'd question your percentage, but not the general gist of what you're saying here.  But you're missing the bigger point, which is that they don't spend all those years teaching you things because one day you'll be walking down the street and need the Pythagorean theorem to save a bunch of people from a burning bus or something.  They teach you these things to give you the opportunity to be more than a janitor.  You earlier remarked that Bill Gates wouldn't have been the same man if he were in Africa.  Don't you think that part of the problem would have been his lack of a quality education?

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    That's what's Dumb.  Too busy to go trolling teachers. I'm sure it's been done lots anyway.
    Stay away from teachers.  They don't need you bothering them.  On the whole, they're some of the hardest-working and under-appreciated people out there.  My wife kills herself for ten hours a day, the last thing she needs is you running your idiot mouth about education.  I, however, have ample time to systematically mock your moronic theories.



  • Dino Ca$$$$h where are you.

    @joemck said:

    I tried to get the Paleontlogists' attention. By acting like a Gigntc Asshole?  That usually works. But for some reason they won't take the bait.  (Maybe. because they have better things. To do with their precious time.)  How can I be. An even Bigger Jerk.

    It's OK to be. An enormous JackAss. Because I have no Self-ReSpect(ateSwamp). 

    Exactly. Sometimes the truth works best. There is no way anybody can profit from Dinosaurs except Paleontologists. The current big discovery was found in 1999 by a school kid. He claimes he didn't find the skin till 2004 when he was partway through a Paleontology degree. Maybe that's what us 3 should do. Get those quickie Web Diplomas and spend the rest of the days on the riverbank with camcorders, toothbrushes and a dental pick or two. Then travel around the dino world showing off our incredible finds.  

     Poor poor old Spectate and his dumb friends want some of that Dino Cash$$$$

     



  • @bstorer said:

    I'd question your percentage, but not the general gist of what you're saying here.  But you're missing the bigger point, which is that they don't spend all those years teaching you things because one day you'll be walking down the street and need the Pythagorean theorem to save a bunch of people from a burning bus or something.  They teach you these things to give you the opportunity to be more than a janitor.  You earlier remarked that Bill Gates wouldn't have been the same man if he were in Africa.  Don't you think that part of the problem would have been his lack of a quality education?
     

    Yes, that is exactly the point.  School teaches you how to learn and opens up future opportunities.  Maybe you'll never use all those facts and figures you learned in high school, but you will have trained your mind to learn more complicated concepts, which will allow you to get a better job in the future and possibly MAKE A DIFFERENCE.  Of course, some of us like to make a difference by dancing with magical stones, but hey, to each his own.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    @WWWWolf said:

    Since the trappers, according to you, don't damage the environment – how, exactly, does trapping increase the chance of survival for the animals?

    Trappers are the only ones in the deep bush that see the destruction of the forest by logging. Other than the perps themselves.

    And where did I ask anything about seeing the destruction? I asked about the effects of trapping, not observing the destruction wrought by others. If you just meant to say that trappers see the destruction first-hand, just say so. Instead you claimed something quite different: "It isn't the trappers that are causing the demise of their prey"; I deduct what you really meant was "Trappers kill animals, but cutting down forests causes much more environmental damage". Took a few more irate back-and-forth messages to get here, that's all...

    See how hard you make this by not being more clear? It isn't the first time people fail to get your whole meaning at first. Please improve your arguments, and quit assuming everyone can see what's brewing inside your skull.



  • @WWWWolf said:

    quit assuming everyone can see what's brewing inside your skull.

    I'd say if you could see in his scull, you'd find some noodles missing that he tried to Jam into SSDS.



  • Teachers and other Degreeds

    @bstorer said:

    @SpectateSwamp said:
    That's what's Dumb.  Too busy to go trolling teachers. I'm sure it's been done lots anyway.
    Stay away from teachers.  They don't need you bothering them.  On the whole, they're some of the hardest-working and under-appreciated people out there.  My wife kills herself for ten hours a day, the last thing she needs is you running your idiot mouth about education.  I, however, have ample time to systematically mock your moronic theories.
    I know teachers and principals. That are dumber than me. So what. 2 examples. Years back at a Systematix Christmas party I was seated with 2 other new staff and their wives. They were University Computing profs. Both were very nervous about their upcomming assignments. They should have been. There is no way they could touch me with 15 years of consulting along with another 8 in Data Processing. Couldn't touch dumb old SpectateSwamp. Point #2 on the Degreeds and their stupidness. From a reliable source (a guy at the stores wicket). A new technical supervisor insisted that those doing the pulp testing, have tech degrees. Replacing and moving those aside that were not so well degreed. The new techies took way longer doing their tests than the oldtimers. The old group would grab a pinch of pulp between their fingers and roll it around. The techies would get some and run to their lab. Comming back with results 15 minutes later.

    The Degreeds discriminate against the rest of us. Time for a little truth on the matter.  


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