Mashup Challenge $100,000 prize - WTF if Spectate Swamp wins?



  • @CodeSimian said:

    I hereby propose a new DailyWTF.com forum just for Spectate: "The DailySwampShack!"  Spectate could just stay in there and post "Tabacco Leaf Flyer" videos to his heart's content.  He probably won't notice if nobody replies.  (Lack of replies has not stopped him from "blogging".)
     

    Ha! We could add that to TheStupidestManOnEarth, and only make it so he can post, but no one can see it....

    Or let him contribute once a day, and then flame the living shit out of him. (Kind of like we do here, but a little more organized)



  • @aleph said:

    MPS, excellent job with the site. I think links to Spectate's SSDS videos would provide added entertainment. Here's a partial list, courtesy of SS himself. Here are the rest (although they're without narration, which instantly reduces their entertainment value):
     

    Hold that thought, that might be another good use for the code I am hoping to introduce this weekend for the quotes section. Should be able to use basically the same thing and allow people to (with moderation) post videos related to Spectate. 



  • @aleph said:

    I would also like to point out that I have discovered one of those flyers hiding in this very forum. Spectate, I think you need to take some slow-motion video of it. I've already circled it for you

    <font color="#ff1111">                       ___
                          (  <font color="#000000">.</font>  )
                          (___)</font>


    Look, SpectateSwamp!  It's moving.



  •  In fact, I am admittedly not a true member of the open source community because I have really never had a project worthy of open source (just about everything I have done so far is usually covered under NDA).

    But this just strikes me as the perfect thing to allow the community to modify. I don't sourceforge is the proper place for it, but does anyone have any good suggestions on the best place for something like this?

    Am I making any sense? Would anyone be interested in this?



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    But this just strikes me as the perfect thing to allow the community to modify. I don't sourceforge is the proper place for it, but does anyone have any good suggestions on the best place for something like this?
     

    I don't know about an existing site for it, but if you're not interested in dealing with a Wiki/CMS, I'd be more than happy to host one on my site.  Lord knows I don't use a fraction the bandwidth they give me right now.



  • @bstorer said:

    Look, SpectateSwamp!  It's moving.
     

    <font color="#ff1111" face="courier new,courier">                       <font color="#000000">   _   ,
        <font color="#ff0000">___</font>             -====;o`\/ }
       <font color="#ff0000">( </font></font><font color="#000000"><font color="#ff0000"><font color="#999999">.</font> )</font>                  \-`\-'----.
       <font color="#ff0000">(___)</font>                   \ |-..-'`
                               /\/\
                               `--`</font> </font>


     What is it doing to that bird?!  (Apologies to Joan Stark)



  • @bstorer said:

    I don't know about an existing site for it, but if you're not interested in dealing with a Wiki/CMS, I'd be more than happy to host one on my site.  Lord knows I don't use a fraction the bandwidth they give me right now.
     

    The real problem is I am just not sure a wiki is the right tool for the job. I like the idea of this being a community project (as flaming spectate has been from the start) but a Wiki just doesn't seem like it would truly make me happy with the creative aspect. Not without some serious modification to the codebase anyway.

    I just have to assume that the current look of the site depresses most people, and I probably wont have time to do a major overhaul anytime soon, so I am offering it up (with editorial control) to be changed by our community. Hosting shouldn't be a problem for a while. I am hosting it with my own servers. Of course if it DID balloon too far I may have to explore other options. Hopefully advertising will keep the site funded.... but I have no way of knowing. I may have zero traffic in a short amount of time, you never know.

    And of course, if I posted the site source for everyone to potentially change, we may end up with some cool features too.



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    I just have to assume that the current look of the site depresses most people
     

    Much like SpectateSwamp himself....



  • @CodeSimian said:

    Much like SpectateSwamp himself....
     

    ...Touche.



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    The real problem is I am just not sure a wiki is the right tool for the job. I like the idea of this being a community project (as flaming spectate has been from the start) but a Wiki just doesn't seem like it would truly make me happy with the creative aspect. Not without some serious modification to the codebase anyway.
     

    Which is why I said Wiki/CMS.  I think a CMS would be much more in line with what you want.  I could have Joomla or Pligg up and running in literally 10 minutes.  I've never used either one, so I don't know which is better, but I can install them and we can play with them to see if they do what you want.  Just say the word.



  • @bstorer said:

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    The real problem is I am just not sure a wiki is the right tool for the job. I like the idea of this being a community project (as flaming spectate has been from the start) but a Wiki just doesn't seem like it would truly make me happy with the creative aspect. Not without some serious modification to the codebase anyway.
     

    Which is why I said Wiki/CMS.  I think a CMS would be much more in line with what you want.  I could have Joomla or Pligg up and running in literally 10 minutes.  I've never used either one, so I don't know which is better, but I can install them and we can play with them to see if they do what you want.  Just say the word.

     

    Let's see how this goes... I like what we have so far, maybe I will be able to better refine my ideas for the site as we get more into it.

    In the meantime, if anyone wants to modify anything, let me know and I can send any or all of the source, or we can stick it on a online CVS system or something.

    Thank you though.



  • my god, i just wasted two hours reading about spectate swamp desktop search.

    i am going to stick with tracker, as it has the capability to index files for me (rather than requiring me to index them manually), and because it runs on my operating system of choice (linux).

     

    sorry swamp, i have evaluated SSDS and rejected it as it contains none of the features that i expect from a desktop search.

     

    what was this i heard about dinosaur skin?



  • More Swampbites

    "My point:

    Search shouldn’t be part of any operating system.
    It’s a hinderance to the system’s stability, speed
    and openness."

    http://bigtech.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2007/01/30/vista-do-operating-systems-matter-anymore/

    "Forget the OS: Mac, Linux, Windows, ?,,, It's the Desktop Search stupid! The next most important apps are: (2) My Video Camera Software & My VB5.0 Search compiler, (3) Net Browser, (4) Paint & NotePad, (5) Operating Systems, (6) PrintKey 2000, (7) games,,, "
    http://www.daniweb.com/forums/thread81470.html

    "I may just have to take this Biggie Flatten'em Stone along with a couple of the others to the NetSquared MashUp."
    http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=625911&view=findpost&p=589281348

    Most desktop search reviews I have read are pure rubbish. Just times and match counts. None of the fun stuff. SlowMotion video, Random. File move capabilities. URL and email archiving.
    http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=545486&st=0&p=588407708&#entry588407708

    "For the most part people don't need desktop search. They have all lived without it, until now."
    http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=457010&view=findpost&p=587582851

    "My text file has weird, strange, psychic, unexpected, mystics text info."
    http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=587551293

    "There is only one desktop search - Spectate Swamp. So it's impossible to have a desktop search showdown. They have nothing to show. They don't do desktop search, they don't know desktop search."
    http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=587551293

    "Enter enter enter is way faster than down arrow. "
    http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=587478820

    "Runs as a background job. (create your own skins)"
    "Indexing makes it harder to run as a background job."
    "Digital video can change everything. EG. for legacy system backups. "Video in" a high speed screen display of all the important customer information. Start and stop anywhere in a video to see the desired data"
    http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=587390468

    "With such loss on the download anyway I don't have any problem with videoing in a playback sequence on my main Computer and transfer that clip to the net. I don't really call that editing. I think what I'm doing is "timeline playback""
    http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=587040110



  • @elgate said:

    SwampBites

     

    I have to remember that one. That is good!



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

     ...help with site...

     

    Wow... SS has become a sort-of retarded celebrity! People are actually dedicating time to him, even though its to his stupidity.

    What about a SS random fact generator?

     

    Edit: If SS's desktop search is opensource, we should dig in for some code snippets, I am sure they will topple anything we have seen so far in TDWTF.



  • @dlikhten said:

    What about a SS random fact generator?
     

    Once the quoting is complete I plan on a random quoting module. But facts? Hmmm. Got some examples?



  • @dlikhten said:

    If SS's desktop search is opensource, we should dig in for some code snippets, I am sure they will topple anything we have seen so far in TDWTF.

    This is going to break your brain.



  • @elgate said:

    @dlikhten said:
    If SS's desktop search is opensource, we should dig in for some code snippets, I am sure they will topple anything we have seen so far in TDWTF.
    This is going to break your brain.
     

    I am not sure if it would be useful to have a code snippet section or not. The whole thing is just a steaming pile of shit, so do you think it would be worth the time to parse and post snippets? Or just display a random number of lines (say between 1 and 5) from the source.txt?  Or just a link to the steaming pile he calls code?



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    Or just a link to the steaming pile he calls code?
    Host it and show as is with optional coloring to help those who want to try and read it.



  •  @Lingerance said:

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:
    Or just a link to the steaming pile he calls code?
    Host it and show as is with optional coloring to help those who want to try and read it.

    I am pretty sure hosting the file in its entirety could be used against me in court.



  • had a quick bash at a [very] basic piece for the 'teachings' page.

     

    SpectateSwamp [Doug Pederson] has led what many people would describe as a 'dull' working life. Working in [to use his own words] 'data processing, data data processing' and programming, he has made up for this blandness with the sheer variety and extent of the weirdness in his free time.

    In 1972, Doug found a stone with a hole in it, and, like a rational human being, he disregarded it - until, over the course of the next two years, he found another two rocks and dreams told him that the rock was special and magical. Having had this 'confirmed' by a local medicine man, Swamp concluded that the stone had found him, and declared himself a shaman. He has since been on a quest to enlighten the world about their [and his] powers, getting publicity in local papers, and setting up a company 'Tokin'. More detail can be found on the 'Magic Rocks' page.

    In 1999, Spectate began coding his own hobby search program in Visual Basic 5. Though his horrendously poor coding practices, mess of GOTOs, and baffling interface was all but unusable, Doug was convinced he was on to a winner. 'Spectate Swamp Desktop Search', or SSDS as it was later termed, could search one plaintext file only - and this was not through use of an index, but by brute force. Consequently, Doug had to change the basis of all his computer-use to accommodate the loss of text formatting and embedded images, not to mention the restrictions imposed by his using one or two giant plaintext files - but this worried him not. In an attempt to win fame and support for SSDS, Doug has spent many years spamming wikis, blogs, and IT forums with unfocused, confusing videos and irrelevant, unreadable posts, refusing to listen to any of the critics or well-meaning people who advised him otherwise, and continue to do so to this day. With the source code for SSDS becoming available for download in 2007, things went from bad to worse as the true nature of the beast could finally be seen. The hideous code [in .txt format] was and is truly shocking, and many professional programmers have been scarred for life, or even blinded, by the sheer horror contained within. For a more in-depth study of the monster that is SSDS, please visit the 'Desktop Search' page.

    A digital camcorder, usually a beautiful tool, managed to add yet another facet to Mr Pederson's delusions. Convinced that editing raw footage was unnecessary, even undesirable, SpectateSwamp propagated this message also, not only on videographers' forums, but also on those frequented by IT professionals, who had expressed no interest in the subject. Not to be deterred by their constant criticism, Doug continued to believe in his statements and continued to try to spread his message, despite claims that he was a 'retard', and also despite his contradicting himself on one occasion. For an in-depth study of Doug's video beliefs, and an account of the marginal progress made in this area, please read 'Video Editing'.

     

     

    That is incomplete, and far too long. I would welcome suggestions on how to improve and cut it down, as I feel that the Teachings page should be a brief overview of everything. 

    Also, if he is a troll he is amazing 



  • @dlikhten said:

    Edit: If SS's desktop search is opensource, we should dig in for some code snippets, I am sure they will topple anything we have seen so far in TDWTF.
     

    All from source.txt

    Line 88: Private special_date As String        '01 April 2003 reduce the delay if "Tuesday April 1" date display done as it has delays built in ver=1.05

    From line 205:

    Private s1_imbed As String      'january 19 2001
    Private s2_imbed As String      'january 19 2001
    Private s3_imbed As String      'january 19 2001
    Private s4_imbed As String      '23 june 2002
    Private s5_imbed As String      '23 june 2002
    Private s6_imbed As String      '23 june 2002

    - an oft repeated style of naming...

    line 312:Private vvversion As String

    line 364:'   Dim SSS1 As String     what the hey why commented out????? ***vip*** it is strange too

     Starting at line 539

    If Test2_str = "E" Or Test2_str = "X" Then
                Unload Me       '12 December 2004
                Set frmproj2 = Nothing
                Stop                            '12 december 2004
    '            Resume End_32000                   '12 December 2004  this line is not part of this subroutine...
            End If                              '12 December 2004 allow for exit too at interrupt...
    little_lower:       

    From line 728

      ' ** set auto_redraw to "false"
        '       much much faster than true
        '       for Keep-it super-search anyway

    all just for starters - haven't even reached the main routine...

     



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    I am pretty sure hosting the file in its entirety could be used against me in court.
    ??? It's open source, presumably public domain even as he hasn't mentioned what license it is in. In the case you were being sarcastic one could suggest selling it to the DoD as a WMD, hopefully the sheer stupidity can destroy the reader's heads.



  • @spenk said:

    ...

     

    Damn, I gota get downloadin' and readin'!



  • @jakkle said:

     

    It is live. Very good start IMO.

    Thank you.

    Let's see if others can work on it from here. I will insert links later. 



  • @Lingerance said:

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:
    I am pretty sure hosting the file in its entirety could be used against me in court.
    ??? It's open source, presumably public domain even as he hasn't mentioned what license it is in. In the case you were being sarcastic one could suggest selling it to the DoD as a WMD, hopefully the sheer stupidity can destroy the reader's heads.
     

    He has never actually posted a license it is contained on. And I didn't say HE would take me to court.... I am worried about being declared insane in court based on someone find that POS.



  • @elgate said:

    "Enter enter enter is way faster than down arrow. "
    http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?act=findpost&hl=&pid=587478820
     

    Keyboard shortcuts are much faster than keyboard shortcuts:

    "Old Spectate Swamp knows inset keypad and easy key sequences are far faster than any power users shortcuts. Did a KeyPunch / Verify system back in '75 KeyBoard shortcuts are SlowCuts compared to SSDS quick keys. Swamp Search can be fast very fast." 



  • @CodeSimian said:

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    @CodeSimian said:

    SpectateSoliloquies ?
     

    Yep, was hoping for something to denote the fact that it would include clips of attempted conversations....

     

    Well, like a few people have pointed out, he really is talking to himself.  He just repeats the same thing over and over again, he never really tries to elicit information from anybody else, and he ignores responses which don't match his narrow view of reality.  The only way to talk to Spectate is act just like him.

    The main problem I have with "SpectateSoliloquies" is it isn't very funny.  I think it is fairly accurate, though.

    If you can get permission, here is the perfect cartoon to use for that page:

     http://thedailywtf.com/Comments/110-Panic-Ensues.aspx#179448

     

    You have my permission as the creator of this modified version to use this - I guess you may need to check with Alex too though!



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    @elgate said:

    @dlikhten said:
    If SS's desktop search is opensource, we should dig in for some code snippets, I am sure they will topple anything we have seen so far in TDWTF.
    This is going to break your brain.
     

    I am not sure if it would be useful to have a code snippet section or not. The whole thing is just a steaming pile of shit, so do you think it would be worth the time to parse and post snippets? Or just display a random number of lines (say between 1 and 5) from the source.txt?  Or just a link to the steaming pile he calls code?

     

    I think the only code snippet we should post is:

     10030 Goto 10050

     

    Dr Phil 



  • @DrPhil said:

    I think the only code snippet we should post is:

     10030 Goto 10050

     

    Haha, that does kind of sum it up huh?



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    @jakkle said:

     

    It is live. Very good start IMO.

    Thank you.

    Let's see if others can work on it from here. I will insert links later. 

     

    no problemo. If there is anything you want me to do, just say the word

    PS - from your use of the word 'others' i guess you want me to just leave it alone... but if you want me to finish it off, let me know 



  • I agree with an earlier post that we should have some type of open forum on the site that gives Spectate an opportunity to spew his swamp gas, and then allow us and our 2 million new viewers to 'comment' on his spew. 

     

    It would be like having our own internet alien on view in our internet 'zoo' for the world to watch in awe as he goes about his daily life.  The rest of the site would be background leading up to the live swampie exhibit...

     

    Dr Phil
     



  • @jakkle said:

    PS - from your use of the word 'others' i guess you want me to just leave it alone... but if you want me to finish it off, let me know 
     

    Either way is fine with me. You seemed to want to move on, and that is fine. If you want to finish, keep posting. 

    As long as we get good content, what do I care?

    I need to think up some way of giving credit... maybe just a nice credits page would suffice...

     

    As for other stuff, scroll up, I posted a bunch of things I think we need to do, but that is probably where you got the idea for the teachings page.



  • @DrPhil said:

    I think the only code snippet we should post is:

     10030 Goto 10050

    Oh I don't know about that, try...

    from line 877

    ddemo = "YES"
    ddemo = "NO"    'set to "YES" if demo "NO" if full system
    If UCase(App.EXEName) = "DEMO" Then ddemo = "YES"   '08 August 2003

    or the inspired version control starting at line 893

    'tell them where this program comes from
    SSS = Format(Now, "ddddd ttttt")    'todays date
    temp1 = InStr(2, SSS, "/1/")
    vvversion = "Version September 1/00"
    vvversion = "Version September 5/00"  'extended control.txt to 40 from 20
    vvversion = "Version September 8/00"  'line wrap control.txt element 21 to 40 from 82 etc
    vvversion = "Version September 10/00" 'context lines 10 or 5 etc
                                           'added the B for back option
    vvversion = "Version October 4/00" 'noshow and others added
    vvversion = "Version October 9/00" 'p for previous picture allowed
    vvversion = "Version October 13/00" 'restricted demo version and date check back in
    vvversion = "Version October 19/00" 'don't load the clipboard and make sure search selection has at least 3 of the same chrs
    vvversion = "Version October 21/00" 'Quickie search if Q entered no context display and skip if no match

    which continues to "Mar 01/01" on line 976



  • Agreed. Then he has spectateswamp.com to publish any thoughts he wants to, and has a big audience! He can't lose.

    By the way did anyone think that in light of what we now know about the stones, perhaps "All unpaid copies carry a curse. Beware." from the source code might actually be a real threat?



  • @elgate said:

    perhaps "All unpaid copies carry a curse. Beware." from the source code might actually be a real threat?
     

    It certainly sheds new light on it... that is for sure.



  • Heres a random fact:

    SpectateSwamp Desktop Search is so freaken' amazing that there is no computer available today that can run it to it's full potential. Its not a hardware problem, they are just not awsome enough, and too tied in with government conspiracies to do so.

     

    Keyboard shortcuts are slowcuts compared to quick keys... I guess we dont need them "shortcuts" used by power users... we need EXTREME-Cuts. To access your files you have to stab your mother-in-law! To log off you need to eat a bag full of nails!



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    Let's see how this goes... I like what we have so far, maybe I will be able to better refine my ideas for the site as we get more into it.

    In the meantime, if anyone wants to modify anything, let me know and I can send any or all of the source, or we can stick it on a online CVS system or something.

    Thank you though.

     

    Partly because I don't belive in doing actual work on Fridays, but mostly because I finally had an excuse to try out Joomla, I made this.  Based on the way it works, a CMS really might be the way to go.  I can't tell you whether one exists that will meet your requirements, though.  Feel free to join, I'll give anyone here more access so you can play with, if you're curious.  Just send me a private message here or something.



  • OMG IT CAN'T BE:

     

     '08 July 2003 see what is happening to Peter tran tap's computer when a dir done
        temp_cnt = tt     '08 July 2003 testing only can be removed when done

     Could this really be...evidence of an actual swampy?  Now I am sure there is no God.



  • @bstorer said:

    Partly because I don't belive in doing actual work on Fridays, but mostly because I finally had an excuse to try out Joomla, I made this.  Based on the way it works, a CMS really might be the way to go.  I can't tell you whether one exists that will meet your requirements, though.  Feel free to join, I'll give anyone here more access so you can play with, if you're curious.  Just send me a private message here or something.
     

    I will investigate a bit, I want to see how this lines up with some of the ideas I am getting here and in my own mind. Thanks for the preview, looks good.

    Know of anything good like this for .NET?  (Not DNN)



  • Quick Google turned up this: http://www.opensourcescripts.com/dir/ASP,046NET/Content_Management/

    Then of course there's the ultimate WTF.


  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    Know of anything good like this for .NET?  (Not DNN)
     

    A quick spin through CMS Matrix shows only three open source CMS for .NET, the best of which appears to be AxCMS.netTandemServer might be worth at least considering, too... if it didn't use XML instead of a database.



  •  @elgate said:

    Quick Google turned up this: http://www.opensourcescripts.com/dir/ASP,046NET/Content_Management/

     

    Then of course there's the ultimate WTF.

    Well after using this forum, I always had an icon on every page letting me know what CM system to never use.



  • @elgate said:

    Quick Google turned up this: http://www.opensourcescripts.com/dir/ASP,046NET/Content_Management/

     

    Then of course there's the ultimate WTF.

     

    Alright cool. I will look at some of the options when I get some more time.Trying to keep this light and to the point.... but who knows what we will end up with? 

    We are about to hit 3000 pageviews (> 610 unique visits too) so maybe there IS some interest here.



  • @elgate said:

    Then of course there's the ultimate WTF.
     

    I'm thinking of a phrase that rhymes with "Snow shucking sway."



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    We are about to hit 3000 pageviews (> 610 unique visits too) so maybe there IS some interest here.
     

    And we haven't even begun the Google bombing yet! 



  • @bstorer said:

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    We are about to hit 3000 pageviews (> 610 unique visits too) so maybe there IS some interest here.
     

    And we haven't even begun the Google bombing yet! 

     

    Yeah, I am not usually an advocate of spamming forums (quite the opposite really) but I don't feel bad about it on this forum, since it is very much relevant.

    Also, when we get it further along, I won't feel bad about 'advertising' everywhere Spectate has already spammed. I figure those people will appreciate it. Like a support group.



  • I'm at a complete loss as to how Spectate manages to comprehend his own code. It's such an unmaintainable mess. Anyway, here's some fun stuff that I found: 

    I think I found why all of Spectate's video is <2 min long - apparently random video will only choose a random starting point within the first 5 minutes because otherwise it "takes too line":

    check_l_s_p:                    '27 March 2004
            If line_start_point > 300000 Then
                line_start_point = line_start_point - 300000
                GoTo check_l_s_p
            End If                  '27 March 2004
                        '27 March 2004 jumping to the middle of large files takes too line
                        'this limits that to the first 5 minutes and that is plenty.

    Just a few lines later, there is this completely random comment - it relates in no way to anything around it:

    '29 February 2004 leap year extra day

    SendKeys: The ultimate in IPC (I believe this is used for opening a file in Notepad to edit it):

          MyAppID = Shell(Cmd(10), 3)
    '    End If          '30 november 2002
    '29 September 2003 the above commented out

    '       AppActivate MyAppID
        SendKeys "^o", True
    '    SendKeys TheFile, True 'december 3 2000
        If InStr(1, TheFile, ":") <> 0 Then
            SendKeys TheFile, True
        Else
            SendKeys App.Path + "\" + TheFile, True 'december 3 2000
        End If
        SendKeys "~", True    'FORCE AN "ENTER"
        AppActivate MyAppID 'december 27 2000

    Spectate has something against his C: drive:

            GoTo auto_p3        'make sure that cd search file does not have "C:\"
                                'it should be "D:\" anything but "C:\" to work

    This is quite a gem - it's used to translate a laptop's un-numlocked keypad to the correct numbers when selecting a file from that list of 20 files (apparently Spectate doesn't grasp Fn+NumLock). Somehow I don't think laptop keyboards have standardized their numpad location, so I'm sure this breaks nicely on other hardware:

    keypad_27500:           '19 December 2004
        xtemp = UCase(xtemp)
        If xtemp = "M" Then xtemp = "1"
        If xtemp = "," Then xtemp = "2"
        If xtemp = "." Then xtemp = "3"
        If xtemp = "J" Then xtemp = "4"
        If xtemp = "K" Then xtemp = "5"
        If xtemp = "L" Then xtemp = "6"
        If xtemp = "U" Then xtemp = "7"
        If xtemp = "I" Then xtemp = "8"
        If xtemp = "O" Then xtemp = "9"
        If xtemp = "M " Then xtemp = "10"
        If xtemp = "MM" Then xtemp = "11"
        If xtemp = "M," Then xtemp = "12"
        If xtemp = "M." Then xtemp = "13"
        If xtemp = "MJ" Then xtemp = "14"
        If xtemp = "MK" Then xtemp = "15"
        If xtemp = "ML" Then xtemp = "16"
        If xtemp = "MU" Then xtemp = "17"
        If xtemp = "MI" Then xtemp = "18"
        If xtemp = "MO" Then xtemp = "19"
        If xtemp = ", " Then xtemp = "20"

     



  • @aleph said:

    Lots of quality SSDS analysis
     

    You actually tried to understand that crap?  My eyes went cross after five minutes, which was about how long it took me to unravel his word wrap code. 



  • @aleph said:

    I think I found why all of Spectate's video is <2 min long - apparently random video will only choose a random starting point within the first 5 minutes because otherwise it "takes too line"
     

    Good call:

    http://www.daniweb.com/forums/post344975-8.html

    Short video clips make it much faster when doing timeline playback.
    If you are showing the last few seconds of a short video
    It is much quicker than seeing the last few seconds of a very long clip.
    All I do is hit the off button then switch it right back on. Simple and
    quick. During critical action I don't mess with anything. Sometimes I'll
    stop and start the video when I hear swear words. That way I just don't
    play the last second or 2 from that video then on to the next one.

     

    Maybe Spectate just needs an video encoder that will produce properly seekable video files?   I love the way Spectate's reaction to every personal limitation or shortcoming is: "I won't rest until everyone else in the world suffers with this limitation too!"

    • Spectate doesn't have the desire or know-how to use a video editor, therefore NOBODY should edit video
    • Spectate's video files don't seek very well, therefore NOBODY should use video longer than 2 minutes
    • Spectate doesn't need more than Grade 9, therefore NOBODY needs more than Grade 9. 

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