Mashup Challenge $100,000 prize - WTF if Spectate Swamp wins?



  • @CodeSimian said:

    SpectateSoliloquies ?
     

    Yep, was hoping for something to denote the fact that it would include clips of attempted conversations....



  • I've got an idea for a photo mash-up, but I don't have enough 'shop-fu to pull it off.



    Take the scene from Dreamcatcher with all of the aliens on the ground and the spaceship in the back, then 'shop in some approaching velociraptors. On top of it, impose the Swampie pic, but make him look like Robert Muldoon:



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    As you know, he is an expert dino and alien hunter.



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    @CodeSimian said:

    SpectateSoliloquies ?
     

    Yep, was hoping for something to denote the fact that it would include clips of attempted conversations....

     

    Well, like a few people have pointed out, he really is talking to himself.  He just repeats the same thing over and over again, he never really tries to elicit information from anybody else, and he ignores responses which don't match his narrow view of reality.  The only way to talk to Spectate is act just like him.

    The main problem I have with "SpectateSoliloquies" is it isn't very funny.  I think it is fairly accurate, though.

    If you can get permission, here is the perfect cartoon to use for that page:

     http://thedailywtf.com/Comments/110-Panic-Ensues.aspx#179448



  •  I vote for 'Swampologues'. Neither a monologue or a dialogue, it's that special kind of conversation that can only occur in the mind of our favourite SwampThing.



  • @WeatherGod said:

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:
    Anyone think 'Swampologues' would be funny?
    But doesn't the word "dialogue" imply that there is two-way communication?

    Monologue.



  • @dabean said:

     I vote for 'Swampologues'. Neither a monologue or a dialogue, it's that special kind of conversation that can only occur in the mind of our favourite SwampThing.

     

    Exactly!

    Maybe we should throw in an explanation of a swampologue on the page...



  • I rewrote waco.huber's rewrite of the bio...

     

    Mr. Doug Pederson AKA SpectateSwamp was born on the 26th July 1948 somewhere in the nether regions of Canada; sadly, little is known about his early life.

    For approximately 20 years he worked as a computer programmer utilizing Fortran H, Fortran F, Cobol, and RPG. He picked up BASIC a little later in his life, writing systems for telephone companies, Cable Companies, and Rural Gas companies among others.

    While working at a rock quarry in 1972, he happened upon a mid-sized rock with a hole naturally cut through it, but eleven years of obscurity passed before dreams told him it was a very special rock. Later determining that it was an ancient Indian Medicine Stone, he initially attempted to commercialize the rock and profit from it, until the local Indian culture vehemently objected. Ultimately he determined that the rock found him because he was, in actuality, an “Indian Shamen” [sic].

    He found additional medicine stones in his frequent wandering throughout the Canadian wilderness and RV parks, and began to use them to curse those companies that disagreed with him; however, despite extreme provocation, he refused to curse individuals. [citation needed]

    Somewhere around this time Doug picked up a hobby of video taping [b]everything[/b] he came across. He soon came to the realization that just about everything he taped contained evidence of alien life. 'Enlightened' about video further, he soon became convinced that the editing of video serves only to degrade the video as a whole, and vowed to teach the world  not only of the aliens and suspicious crow watching him, but also the evils of video editing - except in order that incriminating evidence be removed. Extroverted in his beliefs, Doug has propgated those thoughts on not only videographers' forums, but also on IT forums.

    Whilst working at Weyerhauser in 2000, he made the questionable decision of leaving for New York to curse the UN - reasoning that this should be enough to end the worldwide prohibition of marijuana - of which he has made refernce to being a user, going so far as to call his company 'Tokin' and using the word 'Stoned' in the URL of his homepage. Upon returning to Canada, Doug found himself without a job - experts theorise this was due not only to his suspected drug use, but also to his being batshit insane.

    History was made when Spectate Swamp Desktop Search was released as open source; and, though a SourceForge project was initially opened, Doug could not bring himself to upload the source code, nor would he delegate, even to keen helpers, administrative rights to help him in his life-long quest to make SSDS all that it can possibly be. Currently, that would be many thousands of lines of spaghetti code, to which he advocates users 'add a noodle and JAM IT'. Clearly unknowledgable on the subject of propaganda and persuading people, Doug uses 'screen reshoots', calls people he is pitching to 'lazy, and repeats his few ideas continually, without deigning to even consider that there are better methods than his own. Refusing to listen to those who seek to help him, Mr Swamp is often seen taking quotes out of context, and posting nonsense which is both grammatically incorrect and irrelevant to the topic at hand.

    Today Doug can be found traveling from internet blog to chat room to any forum that has not yet banned him for life, talking up the greatness that is SSDS, and posting vidoes of videos playing on his computer screen.

     

    I hope you like it - however it is somewhat rushed. Feedback is welcomed.



  • Quick! Somebody go put this in Wikipedia!



  • @jakkle said:

    Whilst working at Weyerhauser in 2000, he made the questionable decision of leaving for New York to curse the UN - reasoning that this should be enough to end the worldwide prohibition of marijuana - of which he has made refernce to being a user, going so far as to call his company 'Tokin' and using the word 'Stoned' in the URL of his homepage.
     

    Spectate already explained that his webspace username/directory name is a truncation of "Stone Dancer", due to limitations imposed by the web hosting service (his ISP, Telus).  I think it's enough that he has admitted on forums and in newspaper articles that he smokes weed. 

    I still think it would be interesting to post his claims about the impending armaggeddon in 2012, and the steps he intends to take to save us all.



  •  yeah i couldnt entirely be bothered to look up all the references and posts themselves - sorry.

     

    bloody edit time limit.... 



  • @CodeSimian said:

    @jakkle said:

    Whilst working at Weyerhauser in 2000, he made the questionable decision of leaving for New York to curse the UN - reasoning that this should be enough to end the worldwide prohibition of marijuana - of which he has made refernce to being a user, going so far as to call his company 'Tokin' and using the word 'Stoned' in the URL of his homepage.
     

    Spectate already explained that his webspace username/directory name is a truncation of "Stone Dancer", due to limitations imposed by the web hosting service (his ISP, Telus).  

     

     

    my apologies - i thought it was 'stoned and *something*' 

     

    thatll teach me 



  • @jakkle said:

    my apologies - i thought it was 'stoned and *something*' 

     

    thatll teach me 

     

    No problem.  I figure if we are going to write a non-satirical "bio" of Swampy, it better be factual, otherwise we are just as full of BS as he is. 



  • Oh, so he's just using "Stone" in the URL of his web page. That's much better.



  • @jakkle said:

    my apologies - i thought it was 'stoned and *something*' 

     

    thatll teach me 

     

    I posted what you gave anyway. Someone can fix that in the next revision.



  • @CodeSimian said:

    No problem.  I figure if we are going to write a non-satirical "bio" of Swampy, it better be factual, otherwise we are just as full of BS as he is. 
     

    I agree with this philosophy. 

    I am going to let others act as editor though. I will post each revision as long as they don't look awful or something (as in Spectate decides to write his own) and we can keep it going. I think this is pretty cool really.



  • @CDarklock said:

    Oh, so he's just using "Stone" in the URL of his web page. That's much better.
     

    You have obviously not been exposed to the awesome power of the stones.  Without the stones, how would Spectate dance away the End of The World in 2012?  



  •  bit of a rewrite -hope y'all dont mind

     

    Mr. Doug Pederson AKA SpectateSwamp was born on the 26th July 1948 somewhere in the nether regions of Canada; sadly, little is known about his early life.

    For approximately 20 years he worked as a computer programmer utilizing Fortran H, Fortran F, Cobol, and RPG. He picked up BASIC a little later in his life, writing systems for telephone companies, Cable Companies, and Rural Gas companies among others.

    While working at a rock quarry in 1972, he happened upon a mid-sized rock with a hole naturally cut through it, but eleven years of obscurity passed before dreams told him it was a very special rock. Later determining that it was an ancient Indian Medicine Stone, he initially attempted to commercialize the rock and profit from it, until the local Indian culture vehemently objected. Ultimately he determined that the rock found him because he was, in actuality, an “Indian Shamen” [sic].

    He found additional medicine stones in his frequent wandering throughout the Canadian wilderness and RV parks, and began to use them to curse those companies that disagreed with him; however, despite extreme provocation, he refused to curse individuals.

    Somewhere around this time Doug picked up a hobby of video taping everything he came across. He soon came to the realization that just about everything he taped contained evidence of alien life. 'Enlightened' about video further, he soon became convinced that the editing of video serves only to degrade the video as a whole, and vowed to teach the world  not only of the aliens and suspicious crow watching him, but also the evils of video editing - except in order that incriminating evidence be removed. Extroverted in his beliefs, Doug has propgated those thoughts on not only videographers' forums, but also on IT forums.

    Whilst working at Weyerhauser in 2000, he made the questionable decision of leaving for New York to curse the UN - reasoning that this should be enough to end the worldwide prohibition of marijuana - of which he has made refernce to being a user, going so far as to call his company 'Tokin', which, according to Doug's local paper's 'expert' may have some connection to cannabis.

    History was made when Spectate Swamp Desktop Search was released as open source; and, though a SourceForge project was initially opened, Doug could not bring himself to upload the source code, nor would he delegate, even to keen helpers, administrative rights to help him in his life-long quest to make SSDS all that it can possibly be. Currently, that would be many thousands of lines of spaghetti code, to which he advocates users 'add a noodle and JAM IT'. Clearly unknowledgable on the subject of propaganda and persuading people, Doug uses 'screen reshoots', calls people he is pitching to 'lazy, and repeats his few ideas continually, without deigning to even consider that there are better methods than his own. Refusing to listen to those who seek to help him, Mr Swamp is often seen taking quotes out of context, and posting nonsense which is both grammatically incorrect and irrelevant to the topic at hand.

    Today Doug can be found traveling from internet blog to chat room to any forum that has not yet banned him for life, talking up the greatness that is SSDS, and posting vidoes of videos playing on his computer screen.

    Swampie's future plans are detailed and well established in his mind. Basing his belief on an ancient and little-used calender system, it is Mr Pederson's  conviction that the world is due to end in 2012. Whilst a belief in the world ending imminently would have crushed lesser men, Spectate thinks that due to his self-proclaimed 'Shaman' status and 'magic' stones, he can and will literally 'dance the problem away'. Whether he will be able to do so is yet to be seen.

     

    Sorry, but i really want to get this right. 



  • @CodeSimian said:

    You have obviously not been exposed to the awesome power of the stones.

    Well, "Undercover of the Night" was good.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    That crap must be hard to make work. Not easily tested either.  
     

     

    Likely, "that crap" is still easier to make work than SSDS (which only you seem to understand), most Wiki software has good documentation.    



  • @Renan_S2 said:

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    That crap must be hard to make work. Not easily tested either.  
     

     

    Likely, "that crap" is still easier to make work than SSDS (which only you seem to understand), most Wiki software has good documentation.    

     

     

    he doesnt understand it himself - he often talks about how he loves that HIS OWN DAMN PROGRAM does things that he doesnt expect.  Im not surprised though - sane people with above-average intelligence would have a hard time remembering all the abstruse commands - and, lets face it, he doesnt seem to be in the best of mental health.



  • @AbbydonKrafts said:

    I've got an idea for a photo mash-up, but I don't have enough 'shop-fu to pull it off.



    Take the scene from Dreamcatcher with all of the aliens on the ground and the spaceship in the back, then 'shop in some approaching velociraptors. On top of it, impose the Swampie pic, but make him look like Robert Muldoon

    Before I even attempt this arduous task, are any of the experts here going to do it? I'd love to see this mash-up.



  • @AbbydonKrafts said:

    Before I even attempt this arduous task, are any of the experts here going to do it? I'd love to see this mash-up.

    WTF just load them into SSDS do a little stone dance and jam it!

     

    Fucking n00b.



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    WTF just load them into SSDS do a little stone dance and jam it!

     

    Fucking n00b.

    I bet that would have some odd results.. like a morph gone really really bad.



  • Hate to tell you this, Swampy, but the aliens have graduated from hijacking tobacco leaf fliers and bugs and leaves, and have moved on up to flying lawnmowers. You can stop chasing leaves now and start saluting the guys who try to remotely control those lawnmowers in defiance of the aliens' orders.



  • Flight paths - The rest of the 9

    This is a slow process. Some of the Tobacco leaf flyer clips are short. In others it does a slow mosey across the screen. Just starting #5. I'll do a camstudio capture and post that. Much easier for everybody.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    This is a slow process. Some of the Tobacco leaf flyer clips are short. In others it does a slow mosey across the screen. Just starting #5. I'll do a camstudio capture and post that. Much easier for everybody.

    Maybe it would be easier for you if you InCorporated.  The features of SSDS into CamStudio.  But that would require.  Using SourceForge.

    I like.  StrawBerry. jam. 



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    Some of the Tobacco leaf flyer clips are short. In others it does a slow mosey across the screen. Just starting #5. I'll do a camstudio capture and post that.
     

    So, in other words, YOU PLAN TO USE CAMSTUDIO TO <font size="7">EDIT</font>YOUR VIDEO.  WHY NOT JUST USE AN <font size="7">ACTUAL VIDEO EDITOR</font>, YOU HOPELESS DOLT?



  • @jakkle said:

     bit of a rewrite -hope y'all dont mind
     

    It's live. Check it out.

    Looking good.



  • Found / corrected 2 typos in 5th paragraph:

    ... world not only of the aliens and suspicious crow watching him, but also the evils of video editing - except in order that incriminating evidence be removed. Extroverted in his beliefs, Doug has propagated ...


    And in the 6th:

    ... of which he has made reference ...

    This indirect Wiki is strange, but I like it.



  •  The site could use a few of those newspaper clippings that he posted on dropshots.

     I'd say at least these two for now, and of course this utterly disturbing look into his mind.


  • @dabean said:

    and of course this utterly disturbing look into his mind.

    Inserted because I hadn't seen it before. Holy crap.

    Basically, it's an article saying explicitly that Swampy is entirely wrong about the "medicine stone"- but I'll bet he doesn't see it that way.

     

    Also, why is "Both" the ONLY word highlighted in red? Do you think that's a bug in Swampy's highlight/line-wrap logic? 

     



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    This is a slow process. Some of the Tobacco leaf flyer clips are short.
    Why don't you just call it a leaf, the word flyer isn't relevant as it is a leaf in the wind.

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    I'll do a camstudio capture and post that. Much easier for everybody.
    Isn't this a bit like editing a video? In that case why not just edit the video with a video editing tool. Video editing tools make editing videos easy.



  •  Wow. 'Disturbing' is not the word for that dropshots page...

     

     Well, at least we don't need to photoshop this one:

    Wow



  • @rc_pinchey said:

    Also, why is "Both" the ONLY word highlighted in red? Do you think that's a bug in Swampy's highlight/line-wrap logic?

    While I don't doubt that it could be part of Swampy's highlight logic, it looks like he started highlighting with pink and then highlighted again in yellow (like the start of the last yellow highlight block). The important thing is that only the important stuff is highlighted.



  • Aliens exposed - by Specatate Swamp Desktop Search

     

    This is slowed down by about a factor of 15 times. ie 1/30 second displays for 1/2 second.

    the 110 scenes should last just 4 seconds in Real time.

    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=5836042627487008914 

    Download the original video of tabacco leaf flyer from archive.org

     

     

     

     



  • @zentar said:

    @rc_pinchey said:
    Also, why is "Both" the ONLY word highlighted in red? Do you think that's a bug in Swampy's highlight/line-wrap logic?
    While I don't doubt that it could be part of Swampy's highlight logic, it looks like he started highlighting with pink and then highlighted again in yellow (like the start of the last yellow highlight block). The important thing is that only the important stuff is highlighted.
     

    I think you need to study the flowcharts.



  • The real WTF is that I got holeystonecursed into watching that video... 





  • As far as "wooden table technique without a wooden table" goes, you certainly win. 



  • @dabean said:

    and of course this utterly disturbing look into his mind.
     

    That's a new one for me.  I wish I knew what the various highlighting means.  Although, on the other hand, I don't think I want to know. 



  • @bstorer said:

    @dabean said:

    and of course this utterly disturbing look into his mind.
     

    That's a new one for me.  I wish I knew what the various highlighting means.  Although, on the other hand, I don't think I want to know. 

    I find that highlighted article disturbingly interesting. Or interestingly disturbing. But I guess we'll never find out what the idea behind the highlighting was, because SS never gives direct/useful/sane answers to any question we ask him.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    http://ia360918.us.archive.org/1/items/tb03229/tb03229.JPG
    http://ia360931.us.archive.org/3/items/tb03300/tb03300.JPG
    http://ia341018.us.archive.org/3/items/tb03301/tb03301.JPG
    http://ia360925.us.archive.org/3/items/tb03302/tb03302.JPG
    http://ia360916.us.archive.org/1/items/tb03303/tb03303.JPG
    http://ia360936.us.archive.org/1/items/tb03304/tb03304.JPG
    http://ia341030.us.archive.org/2/items/tb03305/tb03305.JPG
    http://ia360919.us.archive.org/3/items/tb03306/tb03306.JPG
    http://ia360940.us.archive.org/3/items/tb03307/tb03307.JPG
    http://ia360940.us.archive.org/1/items/tb03308/tb03308.JPG

    By the way, one of Swampy's traits that annoys me is that he a) has absolutely no idea how to name the files and b) fails to follow good practices in publishing stuff on web on sites that aren't under his control. We've seen this before in Blogger (he created new blogs when creating new bloody posts would have been more to the spirit of the site, you know). In Google Video, he just uses the bloody filenames as titles instead of naming the files in a way that would be helpful to the user.

    The Internet Archive is a great resource where people can upload their free content... but they have certain recommendations. Like using good titles and good descriptions. (I'm not even sure if that's an official rule, but it sure is common sense to use the multitude of detail fields for their intended purpose!) And, of course, there's the ability to upload multiple files under the exact same entry.

    Instead of creating a single video entry, titled, say, "Tobacco Leaf Flyer" and providing, Swampy created bamillion of "pictXX-wtf-MPG" entries. And separate entries for each snapshot: "tb2198318239128" or whatever. This makes his stuff much harder to find.

    A hint, swampy: Please be considerate of others: use proper names, proper labelling, proper descriptions and please, PLEASE upload multiple files in same archive.org entry. You can even add files to the entry after the fact. Right now, you're just spamming the system.

    Don't believe it can be done? Sure it can! This is an example: A video entry that also contains music file, lyrics as text, and MIDI and Rosegarden files. I'm not sure whether to provide the original Audacity/Ardour sessions or the video source data here - would be cool, I suppose. Perhaps I'll add them later - as part of this same entry.

    Same goes for Google Video and YouTube: I once spent good 3 minutes trying to find one particularly hilarious clip of yours to show to people. 3 minutes I'll never get back. Now here's a recommendation you don't often hear being passed to a self-proclaimed search specialist: Use the goddamn metadata.

    Sorry if I'm a bit irate, but it's a common problem and could be prevented with a little bit of common sense...



  • @SpectateSwamp said:


    This is slowed down by about a factor of 15 times. ie 1/30 second displays for 1/2 second.

    the 110 scenes should last just 4 seconds in Real time.

    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=5836042627487008914 

    Download the original video of tabacco leaf flyer from archive.org


    What on earth are you doing? I just want to check I've got this right...

    1. Rather than edit the video you are using SSDS to display it on your pc but slowed down.
    2. You are drawing on the video playback and obscuring the very things we are supposed to be seeing.
    3. You are recording your entire desktop, not just the movie, using something like camstudio and introducing another level of compression artifacts.
    4. You upload this to google video and get further compression artifiacts to the point where it is impossible to see anything clearly.
    Why????


  • @spenk said:

    Why????
     

    Duh. Because he is The Stupidest Man on Earth.



  • @WWWWolf said:

    (...) 

    Don't believe it can be done? Sure it can! This is an example: A video entry that also contains music file, lyrics as text, and MIDI and Rosegarden files. I'm not sure whether to provide the original Audacity/Ardour sessions or the video source data here - would be cool, I suppose. Perhaps I'll add them later - as part of this same entry.

    Same goes for Google Video and YouTube: I once spent good 3 minutes trying to find one particularly hilarious clip of yours to show to people. 3 minutes I'll never get back. Now here's a recommendation you don't often hear being passed to a self-proclaimed search specialist: Use the goddamn metadata.

     

    A possible result of your (justified) rant, might be that SS just takes his metadata.txt file, and puts it on archive.org, as yet another entry...



  • @WWWWolf said:

    Instead of creating a single video entry, titled, say, "Tobacco Leaf Flyer" and providing, Swampy created bamillion of "pictXX-wtf-MPG" entries. And separate entries for each snapshot: "tb2198318239128" or whatever. This makes his stuff much harder to find.
     

    Did you try typing asdf;ajdsf in Prompt #2 and Jamming It? 



  • @bstorer said:

    @WWWWolf said:

    Instead of creating a single video entry, titled, say, "Tobacco Leaf Flyer" and providing, Swampy created bamillion of "pictXX-wtf-MPG" entries. And separate entries for each snapshot: "tb2198318239128" or whatever. This makes his stuff much harder to find.
     

    Did you try typing asdf;ajdsf in Prompt #2 and Jamming It? 

     

    Jeez, didn't you pay attention? Because of the second 'a' in your parameter, it will be ignored...



  •  @ArieLex said:

    @bstorer said:

    @WWWWolf said:

    Instead of creating a single video entry, titled, say, "Tobacco Leaf Flyer" and providing, Swampy created bamillion of "pictXX-wtf-MPG" entries. And separate entries for each snapshot: "tb2198318239128" or whatever. This makes his stuff much harder to find.
     

    Did you try typing asdf;ajdsf in Prompt #2 and Jamming It? 

     

    Jeez, didn't you pay attention? Because of the second 'a' in your parameter, it will be ignored...

    Damn it!  I always forget that second 'a.'  From now on, I'm not using tht letter ny more!



  • @AbbydonKrafts said:

    I'd love to see this mash-up.

    And we could even enter it into the MashUp challenge!

    Back to the topic, I think that the site should have a "Learn to speak like SpectateSwamp" page.



  • @WWWWolf said:

    ...

    The Internet Archive is a great resource where people can upload their free content... but they have certain recommendations. Like using good titles and good descriptions. (I'm not even sure if that's an official rule, but it sure is common sense to use the multitude of detail fields for their intended purpose!) And, of course, there's the ability to upload multiple files under the exact same entry.

    Instead of creating a single video entry, titled, say, "Tobacco Leaf Flyer" and providing, Swampy created bamillion of "pictXX-wtf-MPG" entries. And separate entries for each snapshot: "tb2198318239128" or whatever. This makes his stuff much harder to find.

    ...

     

    He wants to make sure that people can't easily guess his URLs, you know he IS paranoid. I bet URLs are just a government conspiracy, there are no URLs, its all a lie to cover for Area 51 which houses UFOs! If you don't believe me I can show you the magical medicine stone that has this information written on it...



  • @dlikhten said:

    He wants to make sure that people can't easily guess his URLs, you know he IS paranoid. I bet URLs are just a government conspiracy, there are no URLs, its all a lie to cover for Area 51 which houses UFOs! If you don't believe me I can show you the magical medicine stone that has this information written on it...

    This just in: archive.org is part of the vast government conspiracy to archive everything, everywhere, everyhow! Did you know you cannot access The Wayback Machine unless you know the exact URL of the resource in question? Clearly an indication of why the site operates the way it does! Do not trust archive.org to post your alternative theories, the site exposes all of its metadata for everyone. It's true! Just check the full download links for the items in archives and you'll see the .xml metadata files. The truth is out there!


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