Mashup Challenge $100,000 prize - WTF if Spectate Swamp wins?



  •  Oh, and the bio sounds good to me, but the only suggestion I have is that you somehow separate the parts which are actually completely true (put them in bold?) or take out the jokes, otherwise some of the facts (like his crusade against the evils of video editing) might be taken as jokes too.



  • @DrPhil said:

    I'll take this one on.  Will take me till tomorrow evening - can't post while at work - they took my privileges away :- (  But I can still READ the threads!

     

     

    Thanks for stepping up!

    If you need it, PM me and I will give you my email. 



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

     @MasterPlanSoftware said:
    How about you Spectate? Do you have both of your major threads here in a giant text file? Could you put it on your website for download for me?
    Cut and paste them into a big file using the "z" option at prompt #2. MasterPlanLazy
     

    Retard... Let me slow this down for you.

    You. Are. The. Only. Person. Stupid. Enough. To. Combine. A. Forum. Thread. Into. A. Giant. Text. File.



  • @DrPhil said:

    In Jan 2008 history was made when Spectate Swamp Desktop Search was revealed to the world in a show of open source generosity.  The world was amazed.  The world was stunned.  The world could not stop laughing.

     

    In all seriousness, he started pimping SSDS prior to January 2008.  Check out his Channel9 threads, for example:

    http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/SpectateSwamp

    Also, you missed:

    • SpectateRainMaker (he rained out the 1986 Expo - "when they stopped laughing")
    • SpectateSenator (Ran and lost in the '93 federal election in the Yellowhead district, as Yellowhead.  Inexplicably, received more than 0 votes, despite news coverage of the '86 incident.)
    • SpectateGanjaSoldier (fired from his job - apparently because he travelled to New York to curse the UN in an attempt to force the legalization of marijuana.)
    • SpectateStockBroker (took credit for a stock market downturn - again, because marijuana had not been legalized.)
    • SpectateSaviour (He will save us all in 2012)
    I'm sure I've missed lots of other "achievements".


  • @WeatherGod said:

    Uh... haven't you noticed that I am the "expert" here for all things weather?  I have a few of these things called degrees which certify that I know meteorology.  I have even published a paper and given some small presentations at professional conferences. 
     

    You. Poor. SOB. NOBODY needs More Than a Grade 9 Education.  Unless You are Campaigning to Grade 8 Kids.  Then.  Nobody Needs More.  Than A. Grade 8. Education. 



  • @DrPhil said:

    Good first attempt

     

    Excellent! It is live!

    Everyone try and contribute! This is a great start, and is going to be great!

     

    I mostly copy pasta'ed, I will try and format and such tomorrow, feel free to flame away on ideas there too.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    MasterPlanSwamp. Having trouble with your wiki. Could be your head has swolen and you need a bigger Fedora.

    Prime quote material there. I'm sort of surprised he even knows what a fedora is...



  • @joemck said:

    I'm sort of surprised he even knows what a fedora is...

     

    I am not convinced he does...



  • @DrPhil said:

    Ultimately determined that the rock found him because he was in actuality an Indian Shaman, and the stone found him because of this.

    Notice from the Department of Redundancy Department: This sentence was determined to contain redundant repetition, which was found in this sentence and determined to be redundant by Department of Redundancy Department officials.



  • @CodeSimian said:

    In all seriousness, he started pimping SSDS prior to January 2008.  Check out his Channel9 threads, for example:

    He's also been here for over a year. People seem to forget about his first appearance: [url=http://forums.thedailywtf.com/forums/p/5051/111821.aspx]Thread 1[/url], [url=http://forums.thedailywtf.com/forums/p/5059/111922.aspx]Thread 2[/url], [url=http://forums.thedailywtf.com/forums/p/5063/124339.aspx]Thread 3[/url]

    Don't forget his feud with the Olympics, either.

    In addition to the quotes, you should have code snippets. [url=http://forums.thedailywtf.com/forums/p/7593/146336.aspx#146336]Here are the ones I found.[/url]



  • @Cap'n Steve said:

    People seem to forget about his first appearance: Thread 1
     

    From Swampy's first appearance, another lame quote:

    "Capitalization doesn't bother me as much as those dumb Brackets and Colons everywhere." 



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    Excellent! It is live!
     

    Took me some time to catch up on all the new post! I love the idea of the "stupidest man on earth"-site. I might also contribute stuff some time - it's quite hard for me to keep up with you guys ;-) May I ask why you wanted to use a Wiki system? Did you consider a content management system like Drupal or Joomla? These two are PHP/MySql based. Set up in half an hour ("just jam it!" =) ).

     

    EDIT: I love the fact how my "Fighting Open Source with ClueLessNess" made it into the pictures on the Wiki site :-)



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    "Don't think Do" that's a lot like Jammin it.
    "Measure once, cut twice." A wonderful approach to any problem.

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    Combine 2 or 3 move a little data about and you're Jamming it. You poor suckers don't know how. Doing too much thinking. (Change, compile, link, Jam it) over and over again.
    Sometimes thinking first can be a benefit you know - rather than constant tweaks and recompiles you could stop and think first....

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    When an application can do it all. (video, audio, pictures and text) You are off and running. Worry about the nice interface later.
    Except SSDS can't do all, and what it does it does badly. If the interface is poor people will not use your software either.

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    Don't change anything and they are gone. Me too.
    Is this why you are refusing to make changes to SSDS then?



  • You forgot the Ultimate quote:

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    [url=http://forums.thedailywtf.com/forums/p/5063/124443.aspx#124443]Spaghetti code is OK if you can flowchart.[/url]

    Also, from the same post: "I hated it when they took out line numbers."

    Other suggestions:

    • Stop attributing every quote to SpectateSwamp. After all, the very page is called "Swamp Quotes"
    • I don't think made-up stuff has to be on the biography page. It just looks stupid, like "SS is gay lolololol!". He is way funny as he is.
    • [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:CITE]Cite your sources[/url]! Right now it just appears SS was made up by some bored teenagers. BTW, Here're the links to prominent threads for quick reference: [url=http://forums.thedailywtf.com/forums/t/7593.aspx]The great DeskTop Search showdown[/url], [url=http://forums.thedailywtf.com/forums/t/8133.aspx]EndOfThisWorld[/url], hijacked by Swampy and the source of the Stones mythos, [url=http://forums.thedailywtf.com/forums/t/8159.aspx]ScrewUp Challenge[/url] (this thread). Also, his [url=http://telusplanet.net/public/stonedan/]homepage[/url] (rather disturbing that I remembered it without searching; don't forget to mention its rather amusing etimology), and the SF.net [url=http://sf.net/projects/specatateswamp/]project[/url].
    • You should probably mention his full name (Douglas), and probably the address too.
    • Add [url=http://derula.uglyhorst.de/lol/]Swamp Rap[/url] and [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfoGTvcP8-M]Desktop Search Rain[/url]


  •  @tdittmar said:

    EDIT: I love the fact how my "Fighting Open Source with ClueLessNess" made it into the pictures on the Wiki site :-)

    Wait... is this yours? Or elgate's?

    http://www.spectateswamp.com/DesktopSearch.aspx

     

    Also, I haven't yet decided to wiki this yet. This isn't working out too bad, I may just add a little DB stuff and give a few people admin access to extend the site...

    We will see.



  • @Spectre said:

    Stop attributing every quote to SpectateSwamp. After all, the very page is called "Swamp Quotes"
     

    You are correct here, I had been debating other quotes too here, but the way it is progressing, I don't need the atrributes.

     I really want to make a simple Swamp quote contribution page. Maybe I will get the time today to do that.

    @Spectre said:

    I don't think made-up stuff has to be on the biography page. It just looks stupid, like "SS is gay lolololol!". He is way funny as he is.

    I agree with that, but someone needs to write it up. I have enough to do as-is.

    @Spectre said:

    Cite your sources! Right now it just appears SS was made up by some bored teenagers. BTW, Here're the links to prominent threads for quick reference: The great DeskTop Search showdown, EndOfThisWorld, hijacked by Swampy and the source of the Stones mythos, ScrewUp Challenge (this thread). Also, his homepage (rather disturbing that I remembered it without searching; don't forget to mention its rather amusing etimology), and the SF.net project.

    I agree, I was hoping this would all be in the bio.

    @Spectre said:

    Add Swamp Rap and Desktop Search Rain

    Yes, I think there should be a whole page donated to this kind of stuff. What should I call it?

     

    Also, I am not in love with the colors/theme, so if anyone wants to donate a theme, stylesheet or a master page I would be happy to include it.  Remember - Just Jam It!

     



  • @DrPhil said:

    later determined with the help of a psychic

     

    I wonder if the psychic was Miss Cleo ?



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    @tdittmar said:

    EDIT: I love the fact how my "Fighting Open Source with ClueLessNess" made it into the pictures on the Wiki site :-)

    Wait... is this yours? Or elgate's?

    http://www.spectateswamp.com/DesktopSearch.aspx

     

    As the site is down at the moment I can only guess you're talking about the SSDS banner. IIRC I was the first to use the "Fighting Open Source..." in my TDWTF signature (after SS changed his sig to "Fighting ClueLessNess with Open Source") and it made its way into the pictures and banners created for the other thread. I'm kinda honored that people like to quote it :-)

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    @Spectre said:

    I don't think made-up stuff has to be on the biography page. It just looks stupid, like "SS is gay lolololol!". He is way funny as he is.

    I agree with that, but someone needs to write it up. I have enough to do as-is.


    In addition, I'd revise the bio again and remove the really insulting parts (the section insulting his parents etc.). 



  • @tdittmar said:

    IIRC I was the first to use the "Fighting Open Source..." in my TDWTF signature (after SS changed his sig to "Fighting ClueLessNess with Open Source") and it made its way into the pictures and banners created for the other thread. I'm kinda honored that people like to quote it :-)
     

    Alright, I just want to make sure I am giving credit where credit is due. Let me know if I need to be corrected.

    @tdittmar said:

    In addition, I'd revise the bio again and remove the really insulting parts (the section insulting his parents etc.). 

    Edit away! You write it up, and I will put it up. 



  • @DrPhil said:

    Here is my first take at a bio - comments please!  Yes I know it has some gaps - it is a Draft!

    Notes on the initial bio:

    1. I agree that we should lose the joke stuff.  The real stuff is insane enough.
    2. I don't know about his father being an alien, but Swampy says his father has Norse roots.
    3. BASIC wasn't a hobby language.  He actually programmed in it for work, too.
    4. In addition to the telcos and the rural gas company, he did some sort of cattle system for the largest feed lot in Western Canada and worked at Weyerhauser's Prince Albert pulp and paper mill.
    5. He found his first stone in 1972, but didn't realize it was magical for 11 years.
    6. Although little is known of him from 1999--2007, he did curse the UN in January of 2000 before being fired from Weyerhauser.
    More as it comes to me.



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    Yes, I think there should be a whole page donated to this kind of stuff. What
    should I call it?

    SpectateSwamp Memorabilia?



  • Weather map circa 1986 - wanted by Spectate Swamp

    @WeatherGod said:

    Uh... haven't you noticed that I am the "expert" here for all things weather?  I have a few of these things called degrees which certify that I know meteorology.
    I could sure use some video of that weather system in Vancouver B.C. Canada (july 16 & 17 1986) I caught a glimps of it in the TV broadcast, when down at the Expo site removing the curse. It looked like the ToKin stone swirling around and around. A weather god should have the contacts to do that. WeatherSwamp?



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    I caught a glimps of it in the TV broadcast, when down at the Expo site removing the curse
    Except that youtold the paper at the time that you didn't actually remove the curse.  The skies just cleared up after the Expo let your stones in.



  • Stones did their job

    @belgariontheking said:

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    I caught a glimps of it in the TV broadcast, when down at the Expo site removing the curse
    Except that youtold the paper at the time that you didn't actually remove the curse.  The skies just cleared up after the Expo let your stones in.

    I didn't know for sure if the Stones would clear up the weather. But they did. Flooding out my old place in Edmonton 700 miles away. Edmonton weather at that time would be handy... Oh just forget it. I'll dig up that info after I do the Tobacco leaf flyer flight patterns. My alien hunter friend Martyn Stubbs (manager of Shaw Cable in North Vancouver) said that it would cost 2 million a day to get the coverage the Stones were getting during the deluge.

     



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    @joemck said:

    I'm sort of surprised he even knows what a fedora is...

     

    I am not convinced he does...

     

    You know... this is probably the closest he has ever gotten to being right about something technical.  I wonder if he ever heard of Fedora Core? 



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    @belgariontheking said:

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    I caught a glimps of it in the TV broadcast, when down at the Expo site removing the curse
    Except that youtold the paper at the time that you didn't actually remove the curse.  The skies just cleared up after the Expo let your stones in.

    I didn't know for sure if the Stones would clear up the weather. But they did. Flooding out my old place in Edmonton 700 miles away. Edmonton weather at that time would be handy... Oh just forget it. I'll dig up that info after I do the Tobacco leaf flyer flight patterns. My alien hunter friend Martyn Stubbs (manager of Shaw Cable in North Vancouver) said that it would cost 2 million a day to get the coverage the Stones were getting during the deluge.

     

     

    Let's all make sure Mr. Stubbs knows all about his new found publicity. 

    I am sure he would love his employer associated with Spectate's ramblings.

     

    http://www.shaw.ca/cmsShawCA/Templates/ContactUs.aspx?NRMODE=Published&NRNODEGUID={16810486-31C5-4D18-886B-AC55F8EA1E4E}&NRORIGINALURL=%2fen-ca%2fCustomerCare%2fContactUs%2fInformationDirectory.htm&NRCACHEHINT=Guest

     



  •   @WeatherGod said:

    You know... this is probably the closest he has ever gotten to being right about something technical.  I wonder if he ever heard of Fedora Core?

    Anybody care to photoshop us an image of Spectate wearing his fedora?



  •  It's hard to find on straight-on photo of a fedora.  Here's the best I could come up with.  I call it "Where's my Money. Bitch."

     

    (click for full-size) 



  • @bstorer said:

     It's hard to find on straight-on photo of a fedora.  Here's the best I could come up with.  I call it "Where's my Money. Bitch."

    Alright,  help me out here, where did you get the original? Been asking everyone/everywhere....



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    @bstorer said:

     It's hard to find on straight-on photo of a fedora.  Here's the best I could come up with.  I call it "Where's my Money. Bitch."

    Alright,  help me out here, where did you get the original? Been asking everyone/everywhere....

     

    Somebody posted it a little earlier in the thread.  But I've uploaded it here



  • @bstorer said:

    Somebody posted it a little earlier in the thread.  But I've uploaded it here
     

    Excellent, thanks.

    Anybody remember what it was in the pic that got edited out?



  • Just a quick re-write of Dr. Phil's text:

    Mr. Doug Pederson AKA SpectateSwamp <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>Born 26 July 1948 somewhere in the nether regions of <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Canada</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<o:p></o:p>For approximately 20 years he worked as a computer programmer utilizing Fortran H, Fortran F, Cobol, and RPG. He picked up BASIC a little later in his life. He wrote systems for telephone companies, Cable Companies, and Rural Gas companies among others. <o:p></o:p>While working at a rock quarry in 1972, he happened upon a mid-sized rock with a hole naturally cut through it. Eleven years later dreams told him it was a very special rock and he later determined that it was an ancient Indian Medicine Stone. After initially attempting to commercialize the rock and profit from it, the local Indian culture vehemently objected. Ultimately he determined that the rock found him because he was, in actuality, an “Indian Shamen” [sic].<o:p></o:p> He found additional medicine stones in his frequent wandering throughout the Canadian wilderness and RV parks, and ultimately began using them to curse those that disagreed with him.<o:p></o:p>Somewhere around this time Doug picked up a hobby of video taping everything interesting to him. He soon came to the realization that just about everything he taped contained evidence of alien life. He further realized that the editing of video served only to and vowed to teach the world the evils of video editing.<o:p></o:p>He was working at Weyerhauser in 2000 when he left for <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">New York</st1:place></st1:State> to curse the UN.  The reasoning behind this was an attempt at the ending the worldwide prohibition of marijuana.  Upon returning to <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Canada</st1:country-region></st1:place>, Doug found himself without a job.<o:p></o:p>History was made when Spectate Swamp Desktop Search was released as open source; and, though a SourceForge project was initially opened, Doug could not bring himself to upload the source code, nor would he delegate to anyone administrative rights to help him in his life-long quest to make SSDS all that it can possibly be.  Currently, that would be many thousands of lines of spaghetti code.<o:p></o:p>Today Doug can be found traveling from internet blog to chat room to any forum that has not yet banned him for life, talking up the greatness that is SSDS. <o:p></o:p>

    Anyone else want a go?

     

    /edit: Goddamn formatting...



  • Swampie knows how to capture Aliens

    @bstorer said:

     It's hard to find on straight-on photo of a fedora.  Here's the best I could come up with.  I call it "Where's my Money. Bitch."

     

    (click for full-size) 

    Check the alien by my left shoulder. Picture hogging trash. The aliens I mean.

    Don't worry Swampies. The scene by scene playback of those tobacco flyer movements are truning out great. I save each frame as a jpg. with a small red cirdle around them. Then use SSDS to play back tb*.mpg files with a 1/10 second delay. I'll use camstudio to capture the action. For those that want the jpgs uploaded so your can test out your version of SSDS I'll post them on archive.org as a temporary file. (They are hard to delete - the temporary flag is the only easy way) Now to do that quick video.

     

     



  • @Spectre said:

    SpectateSwamp Memorabilia

    I'd go with something like "User Contributions" or "Witness Contributions"

    @bstorer said:

    I call it "Where's my Money. Bitch."

    That's f'ing great!



  • Now with formatting goodness:

    Mr. Doug Pederson AKA SpectateSwamp

    Born 26 July 1948 somewhere in the nether regions of Canada.

    For approximately 20 years he worked as a computer programmer utilizing Fortran H, Fortran F, Cobol, and RPG. He picked up BASIC a little later in his life. He wrote systems for telephone companies, Cable Companies, and Rural Gas companies among others.

    While working at a rock quarry in 1972, he happened upon a mid-sized rock with a hole naturally cut through it. Eleven years later dreams told him it was a very special rock and he later determined that it was an ancient Indian Medicine Stone. After initially attempting to commercialize the rock and profit from it, the local Indian culture vehemently objected. Ultimately he determined that the rock found him because he was, in actuality, an “Indian Shamen” [sic].

    He found additional medicine stones in his frequent wandering throughout the Canadian wilderness and RV parks, and ultimately began using them to curse those that disagreed with him.

    Somewhere around this time Doug picked up a hobby of video taping everything interesting to him. He soon came to the realization that just about everything he taped contained evidence of alien life. He further realized that the editing of video served only to degrade the video as a whole and vowed to teach the world the evils of video editing.

    He was working at Weyerhauser in 2000 when he left for New York to curse the UN. The reasoning behind this was an attempt at the ending the worldwide prohibition of marijuana. Upon returning to Canada, Doug found himself without a job.

    History was made when Spectate Swamp Desktop Search was released as open source; and, though a SourceForge project was initially opened, Doug could not bring himself to upload the source code, nor would he delegate to anyone administrative rights to help him in his life-long quest to make SSDS all that it can possibly be. Currently, that would be many thousands of lines of spaghetti code.

    Today Doug can be found traveling from internet blog to chat room to any forum that has not yet banned him for life, talking up the greatness that is SSDS.



  • @AbbydonKrafts said:

    @Spectre said:
    SpectateSwamp Memorabilia

    I'd go with something like "User Contributions" or "Witness Contributions"

     

    Swampie Contributions?



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    @AbbydonKrafts said:

    @Spectre said:
    SpectateSwamp Memorabilia

    I'd go with something like "User Contributions" or "Witness Contributions"

     

    Swampie Contributions?

     

    Swamptributions. 



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    Swampie Contributions?

    That would imply that we are in his camp, and hence, allied with "The Stupidest Man on Earth"



  • @bstorer said:

    Swamptributions. 

    Thats my favorite. Anyone else agree?





  • @SpectateSwamp said:

     This is scene #1 check out the other 9 in rapid sucession

     

    I love that he's completely oblivious to what the rest of us are discussing in this thread. 



  • Why should we download a bunch of images, stick them into a directory, download SSDS, stick it into the same directory, then have to spend a few days learning your insane .txt file syntax to "play back" the images?

    We have these things called browsers. They can view images directly from the web. We also have things in these browsers called "back" and "forward" buttons. Should we choose to actually view those pictures of bugs and dust specks, we could just rapidly hit forward/backward to navigate between each of the images.

    So, to do it your way, with SSDS: About 3 days, just to learn how to use your crapware. Any other way: 30 seconds. Again, SSDS loses badly. 



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

     This is scene #1 check out the other 9 in rapid sucession 

    Download these temporary pics and play them back using swamp search.

     

    Yeah, I just looked at them all in my browser.  And you know what?  It's a fucking leaf in the fucking wind.  You can confirm this for yourself by watching the wire running diagonally in the upper right corner.  It moves in the same directions as the leaf BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH MOVING IN THE WIND. 



  • I've got a suggestion for the site: how about along with his more "out there" stuff like the aliens and SSDS, we also have a random quirks page, about things like his...unique...writing style, the way he personifies everything ("Old Man Neowin", "Grepplers"), and how he doesn't understand how wind or 3 dimensions work.  I'd be willing to write at least part of it.



  • I think this quote also deserves to go on the site:

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    @KattMan said:

    I bet some Bears will get trapped in a Manning trap in Florida this weekend, and not only will it be video tapped, but also watched live by millions of viewers.

    I'll be watching. That Manning trap must be something. More than 1 Bear trapped at a time. I just hope GreenPeace doesn't shut the broadcast down.

     



  • @burntfuse said:

    I've got a suggestion for the site: how about along with his more "out there" stuff like the aliens and SSDS, we also have a random quirks page, about things like his...unique...writing style, the way he personifies everything ("Old Man Neowin", "Grepplers"), and how he doesn't understand how wind or 3 dimensions work.  I'd be willing to write at least part of it.

     

    You write it up, I will post it.



  • @aleph said:

    I think this quote also deserves to go on the site:

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    @KattMan said:

    I bet some Bears will get trapped in a Manning trap in Florida this weekend, and not only will it be video tapped, but also watched live by millions of viewers.

    I'll be watching. That Manning trap must be something. More than 1 Bear trapped at a time. I just hope GreenPeace doesn't shut the broadcast down.

     

     

    Indeed worthy, I think we need a seperate 'Dialogues' page. 

    Anyone think 'Swampologues' would be funny?



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    Anyone think 'Swampologues' would be funny?

     

    But doesn't the word "dialogue" imply that there is two-way communication? 



  • @WeatherGod said:

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    Anyone think 'Swampologues' would be funny?

     

    But doesn't the word "dialogue" imply that there is two-way communication? 

     

    Alternative suggestion?



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    @WeatherGod said:

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    Anyone think 'Swampologues' would be funny?

     

    But doesn't the word "dialogue" imply that there is two-way communication? 

     

    Alternative suggestion?

     

    SpectateSoliloquies ?


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