How Microsoft makes an IE-only page





  • It only tells me the page doesn't exist... 



  • Test

     





    PS: Firefox 3b4 doesn't choke on double h3 tags.



  • @Lingerance said:

    PS: Firefox 3b4 doesn't choke on double h3 tags.

    N.B.: CommunityServer does.

    [URL=http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cswtfftwpn4.png][IMG]http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/9639/cswtfftwpn4.th.png[/IMG][/URL]



  • The other way: Silverlight. I use Opera, and I cannot view any of the pages that use Silverlight. I really don't see why it's necessary to use Silverlight for presentation. It's like creating a Flash-only website, except at least there is a Flash plugin for every graphical browser.



  • @Spectre said:

    N.B.: CommunityServer does.
    Correction: whatever browser you use will not close multiple h3 tags even if the parent closes. CS has nothing to do with this (other than letting me post raw HTML).



  • @Lingerance said:

    @Spectre said:
    N.B.: CommunityServer does.
    Correction: whatever browser you use will not close multiple h3 tags even if the parent closes. CS has nothing to do with this (other than letting me post raw HTML).

    For great justice.



  • @VGR said:

    Since IE's disastrously lax tag-soup parser works around it

    I haven't given the details much thought, but at first glance wouldn't it be more work to create a parser that accepts malformed or non-standard tags?  In other words, I think one might describe it as overzealous rather than lax.



  • @TGV said:

    It only tells me the page doesn't exist... 

    Yeah, I left the final 'x' out of the anchor's href attribute. Sorry about that. It's too late to edit my post, so you'll have to add the 'x' by hand. (See? People do make typos.)



  • @shadowman said:

    In other words, I think one might describe it as overzealous rather than lax.
    I would describe it as sane if you look at it from the DOM Tree perspective, if the parent (branch) is closed (dies) the children should close (die) too. I remember reading that IE "chokes" on [c][a]Text[/c][/a]; can't remember what happened, but it is because IE will close the "a" tag on the "/c". Although if it reads the "/a" as a new "a" then that is a WTF.



    As I recall this is how IE (5?) behaves. IE 7 seems to not do this anymore.

    See Underlined and Bold.



    Firefox 3b4 shows the OP's page fine



  • Well, it isn't valid html... IE7- officialy does the right thing...

    Don't believe me?

    Enter the following code <a href="http://validator.w3.org/#validate_by_input">in the HTML validator</a> 

     [code]

    <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
    <html>
    <head>
    <title>Test</title>
    </head>
    <body>
    <b>Bold<u>and underlined,</b> but this isn't bold</u>
    </body>
    </html>

    [/code]

     

    PS:  Could be it was still valid for HTML 3 or somethin, but for XHTML it's absolutely forbidden.

    PS2: <a href="http://www.w3schools.com/xhtml/xhtml_html.asp">W3schools</a> does not seem to agree with the validator 



  •  @AbbydonKrafts said:

    The other way: Silverlight. I use Opera, and I cannot view any of the pages that use Silverlight. I really don't see why it's necessary to use Silverlight for presentation. It's like creating a Flash-only website, except at least there is a Flash plugin for every graphical browser.

    now thats not true, there is a mozilla silverlight plugin that does not work :) You can download it from MS. (i think it just does not work in Firefox 3)



  • @dlikhten said:

     @AbbydonKrafts said:

    The other way: Silverlight. I use Opera, and I cannot view any of the pages that use Silverlight. I really don't see why it's necessary to use Silverlight for presentation. It's like creating a Flash-only website, except at least there is a Flash plugin for every graphical browser.

    now thats not true, there is a mozilla silverlight plugin that does not work :) You can download it from MS. (i think it just does not work in Firefox 3)

    Please read his post, he specifically said that it does not work in Opera. You argued that since it works in Firefox 2.x that it will work in Opera, that is really messed up logic. Microsoft does publish Silverlight plug-ins for IE and FF but not Opera which requires a "hack" according to Wikipedia. Aside: I think Silverlight might gain support from the Linux crowd if it has better support on x64 than flash (which doesn't work on x64, note: I do not consider gnash to be functional).



  • @tag said:

    More dlikhten FUD

    Man, that tag is spreading like herpes in a brothel..

     

    @Lingerance said:

    Aside: I think Silverlight _might_ gain support from the Linux crowd if it has better support on x64 than flash (which doesn't work on x64, note: I do not consider gnash to be functional).

    I really hope Silverlight catches on.  It seems way cooler and more powerful than Flash.  I do hope Microsoft focuses on getting it to work with as many browsers and platforms as possible.  Not just because I'm a FF user on Linux, but because I think it will help adoption of it.  I think a large part of Microsoft's success was in trying to be as compatible as possible and I think they lost that direction for a few years.  Linux users are a definite minority, but they are a vocal (sometimes irritatingly so) minority and their opinions carry some weight in the IT world.  I have no problem using Microsoft software but I also intend to use other software too.  You may say MS doesn't owe me anything because I don't use their OS, but I think it makes good business sense to provide products wherever they will find traction.  MS obviously has the money and talent to port Silverlight to any platform they please, I just hope they make decisions based on long-term market considerations instead of short term financial gains.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    I have come here to chew memory and kick ass... and malloc() is returning a null pointer.
     

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    I nominate it for signature of the week!


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