Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    @CodeSimian said:

    (Yeah, good luck teaching kids to select a partner when many adults aren't capable of doing so.  While we're at it, why don't we start teaching kids how to happy, successful and well-adjusted?  Hint: because there is no magic formula for success in life and relationships, and there are some things which just can't be taught in a classroom.)

    That list should change to include "Advanced Butt Kissing and Political Control and Cheating for Beginners" If I would have learned those lessons at an early age, things might have been different. More different.
     

    NOBODY CARES YOU RETARD.

    We care even less about your political views than we do your view on "Desktop Search". 



  • @Insta said:

    It bugs me if my posts aren't formatted how I want them. I'll continue editing them until it's right.
    About once out ever two times I post -- like this time now -- I get a syntax error, then an error saying "tinyMCE" is undefined. When that happens, the enter key and quote don't work right. I imagine Insta has the same problems. I suspect my annoying '-cw' will appear on this same line. -cw



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    @CodeSimian said:

    It's not a big deal to the common man, or the current generation, but I think there is a danger of losing information that will be of future archeological, historical or scientific interest.  However, that is a pretty abstract concern, and of course SSDS does nothing to alleviate it.
    It should be a big deal to the masses. I'm sure the Big mystery of computing is what has kept them away from digital video in droves. At every turn there are different applications to do editing. playing, backups. Nothing there to help them understand what they are doing ISN'T rocket science. They can be dumb and have fun with computers. Just learn 8 or 10 commands on this Swamp Search Engine.  

     

    <font color="#ff0000"><font size="5">AS USUAL, YOUR RESPONSE HAS NO CONNECTION TO WHAT I POSTED OR WHAT I WAS RESPONDING TO. </font></font>

    Can you please stop doing that?  It's not funny, it doesn't strengthen your case, and it doesn't endear you to anybody here.  I was responding to a post that said obsolescence of media and formats is not important to most, and I said the common man doesn't care, but future generations might.  What I said HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH DESKTOP SEARCH.

    What in the name of all that's good does SSDS have to do with video editing and backups?  It does neither of those things.  Yes, we know that you don't like to edit video (unless you are removing incriminating footage, or you are using an editor to look at "digital artifacts"), but that has nothing to do with SSDS.

    Guess what?  People can already do digital video and search without SSDS.  Nobody needs your abomination of an application to use computers the way you advocate.  In fact, SSDS just makes everything harder.

    We are all still waiting for you to find a member of the MASSES who has used your application and liked it.  Show me one ordinary person other than yourself who has something nice to say about SSDS.  No, you cannot turn around and say "Gosh, I was hoping that person would come from this forum."  As you have pointed out many times, the people in this forum are not the "masses".

    If you cannot or will not meet the simplest challenge to prove that your application deserves a microsecond more of our time, then you are a coward, failure, scoundrel and nuisance of the highest order.  If you have truly been developing SSDS since 1999, and you cannot produce a single satisfied customer, then you have wasted the last 8-9 years of your life.  How fucking sad for you.  How fucking sad for us all that we continue to give you the undeserved attention that you so desperately crave.



  • ...and then on my third attempt, it loads properly. 

     Go figure. 

    -cw



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    I had a very privitive version of SSDS running on the VAX Nothing compared to Swamp Search. Having dumb terminals does made the main system (Plant Management System) more reliable. I am either Hunting Plants or Managing them. I never did say that VMS had Visual Basic. If I did. It is due to my scatter brain.

     

    VMS already had SEARCH.  Why would you rewrite it?  And if the VAX had been running Unix, you had grep. 



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    I never did say that VMS had Visual Basic. If I did. It is due to my scatter brain.

    I think I've figured it out, SpectateSwamp has asbergers! 



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    @spenk said:

    I think I have also spotted a minor flaw in your argument of having one or two computers that aren't locked down; how do you get the content onto these two pcs so you can then burn it to dvd. Show me a solution that is robust and secure because none spring to my mind.
    The HomeLess would come in with a DVD that had SSDS and their important data on it, make their changes and additions. They might even use a portable USB storage device Then burn their New ComputerLess system Disk. Every important record they need on a DVD.  

    DVDs are easily lost, damaged or stolen.  I would never EVER put anything even remotely important on a DVD.  Hell, what kind of dinosaur still uses physical media?  Get with the times gramps.  Online storage is where its at, but I guess SSDS doesn't search that now, does it? You make me embarassed to be Canadian you TV video taping cretin! 



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    The HomeLess would come in with a DVD that had SSDS and their important data on it, make their changes and additions. They might even use a portable USB storage device Then burn their New ComputerLess system Disk. Every important record they need on a DVD.  
     

    Perhaps it's just me but firstly I would expect the homeless to have slightly more pressing concerns than keeping dvds up to date or worrying if their USB stick has sufficient storage for their photos etc. 

    Plus you didn't answer my question - how do you get content onto these one or two dvd burner equipped pcs if they are isolated?



  • Swamp search better than Vax/Search

    @bstorer said:

    VMS already had SEARCH.  Why would you rewrite it?  And if the VAX had been running Unix, you had grep. 

    The staff were not allowed to be at the "command prompt" They had to be in the Plant Management Information System at all times. So I wrote a Itsy-bitsy search. It got used quite a bit. Summer students did use the Vax/Search to locate various Electric Motors. They worked in the Maintenance department and had more power than the accounting departments.


  • Swamp Search & Video what a pair

    @Soviut said:

    DVDs are easily lost, damaged or stolen.  I would never EVER put anything even remotely important on a DVD.  Hell, what kind of dinosaur still uses physical media?  Get with the times gramps.  Online storage is where its at, but I guess SSDS doesn't search that now, does it? You make me embarassed to be Canadian you TV video taping cretin! 

    I make copies of the political forums for those that want them. During election run-ups I was giving the political candidates video of previous forums at the next meeting. There were 11 such forums in the YellowHead riding. The High School prom, Demolition Derby, Rodeo, National Native FastBall Championships. They all wanted video. I shared. JetBoat Championships. Lots of reasons to burn DVD's


  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    @bstorer said:

    VMS already had SEARCH.  Why would you rewrite it?  And if the VAX had been running Unix, you had grep. 

    The staff were not allowed to be at the "command prompt" They had to be in the Plant Management Information System at all times. So I wrote a Itsy-bitsy search. It got used quite a bit. Summer students did use the Vax/Search to locate various Electric Motors. They worked in the Maintenance department and had more power than the accounting departments.

     

    I'm sick of typing it out, so I'm turning it into an acronym: TDEMSYR!  You could run some disaster of a search that you created, but not a simple command line program?  Just so I have some idea what I'm dealing with here, when was this? 



  • Hey Swampy - if you really want to get your product out to the massses, why not spend $70 at this site: http://submit-everywhere.com/ and get it added to every download site on the internet?



  • Spectate Swamp - Computing without a computer!

    @spenk said:

    Perhaps it's just me but firstly I would expect the homeless to have slightly more pressing concerns than keeping dvds up to date or worrying if their USB stick has sufficient storage for their photos etc. 

    Plus you didn't answer my question - how do you get content onto these one or two dvd burner equipped pcs if they are isolated?

    I'm sure if the poor unfortunates had a copy of their loved ones and pictures of the family home and relatives. All on a DVD they would be pleased as could be. I took 2 DVD copies of the recent HomeLess Shelter discussion, to the Shelter. Some nice things got said about helping them. I'm sure they watched it.

    Getting the content on would be the same as if they came to Swamp Shack. My Laptop is my free range computer. They could insert their DVD and move the contents to a folder on C drive. Make changes and then burn the results. If they just wanted to look at their Family Album pictures then it would be even quicker. Just plug in the DVD and use the Swamp search that is on the DVD to do the displays. My PC is not on the internet and is far more secure. It doesn't need reloads of the OS.

    I was just making a point. With this search people can compute without owning a computer.  That's fairly significant to the poor.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    I'm sure if the poor unfortunates had a copy of their loved ones and pictures of the family home and relatives. All on a DVD they would be pleased as could be. I took 2 DVD copies of the recent HomeLess Shelter discussion, to the Shelter. Some nice things got said about helping them. I'm sure they watched it.

    Getting the content on would be the same as if they came to Swamp Shack. My Laptop is my free range computer. They could insert their DVD and move the contents to a folder on C drive. Make changes and then burn the results. If they just wanted to look at their Family Album pictures then it would be even quicker. Just plug in the DVD and use the Swamp search that is on the DVD to do the displays. My PC is not on the internet and is far more secure. It doesn't need reloads of the OS.

    I was just making a point. With this search people can compute without owning a computer.  That's fairly significant to the poor.


    THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE YOU RETARD.

    SSDS does nothing to help people "compute without owning a computer".  Homeless people can do all the things you describe without SSDS.  

    • SSDS does not burn DVDs.
    • You don't need SSDS to look at pictures
    • You don't need SSDS to read DVDs
    • You don't need SSDS to watch movies
    • Computers can search without SSDS.  In fact, it is probably a lot easier if they don't use SSDS.
    • You don't need SSDS to lend a homeless person your laptop
    • You don't need SSDS to help a homeless person IN ANY WAY
    • <font size="5">SSDS DOES NOT HELP THE HOMELESS</font>

    Ever heard of One Laptop Per Child?  Inexplicably, they have the goal of bringing computing to the masses, BUT WITHOUT SSDS.  I know, it's unthinkable.  You should get in touch with them.  Right Now.

    And in North America, Asus EEE PC is another attempt to bring low-cost, portable computing to the masses.

    See, those are actually worthwhile projects that have a chance of helping people.  Probably not homeless people (at least in North America), but it's a step in the right direction.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    I'm sure if the poor unfortunates had a copy of their loved ones and pictures of the family home and relatives. All on a DVD they would be pleased as could be. I took 2 DVD copies of the recent HomeLess Shelter discussion, to the Shelter. Some nice things got said about helping them. I'm sure they watched it.

    Getting the content on would be the same as if they came to Swamp Shack. My Laptop is my free range computer. They could insert their DVD and move the contents to a folder on C drive. Make changes and then burn the results. If they just wanted to look at their Family Album pictures then it would be even quicker. Just plug in the DVD and use the Swamp search that is on the DVD to do the displays. My PC is not on the internet and is far more secure. It doesn't need reloads of the OS.

    I was just making a point. With this search people can compute without owning a computer.  That's fairly significant to the poor.

     

    ?????? Why on earth would the homeless be carrying around DVDs????? Why on earth would they come over to your shack and expect you to allow them to play theirDVDs on your computer???? 

    SSDS would not be required to look at the photos anyway - explorer itself can do this anyway and wouldn't require people to run their own .exe on your computer.

    I'm still not sure why people without a computer would be owning content that required a computer, it is easy for you to say they can bring their DVD and copy stuff to your C:\ drive etc. My points are

    1.  they are homeless where do they get this content from originally? I'm pretty sure homeless people tend not to carry around DVDs and digital cameras....
    2. if they are inserting discs into a computer - the discs could contain spyware, virii etc. this means you are then burning new discs which are also infected. sooner or later you would need to reinstall regarldess of internet conectivity (or not).

     



  • @spenk said:

    if they are inserting discs into a computer - the discs could contain spyware, virii etc. this means you are then burning new discs which are also infected. sooner or later you would need to reinstall regarldess of internet conectivity (or not).
     

    Hellllooooo (again) sneakernet.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    I'm sure if the poor unfortunates had a copy of their loved ones and pictures of the family home and relatives. All on a DVD they would be pleased as could be. I took 2 DVD copies of the recent HomeLess Shelter discussion, to the Shelter. Some nice things got said about helping them. I'm sure they watched it.



    Getting the content on would be the same as if they came to Swamp Shack. My Laptop is my free range computer. They could insert their DVD and move the contents to a folder on C drive. Make changes and then burn the results. If they just wanted to look at their Family Album pictures then it would be even quicker. Just plug in the DVD and use the Swamp search that is on the DVD to do the displays. My PC is not on the internet and is far more secure. It doesn't need reloads of the OS.



    I was just making a point. With this search people can compute without owning a computer. That's fairly significant to the poor.


    Would SSDS even run from a DVD without blowing up? Oh right, it would display a VB error message in the titlebar. It modifies files like files.txt when it runs. These "library computers" probably wouldn't have DVD writers to update the file - or let you use them, if they had.



    I actually tried SSDS a few days ago because I was bored. It works as a very basic replica of Notepad's find feature. I tried using it on a Lorem Ipsum sample text.



    To replicate that:

    1. Select the filename on the first prompt
    2. Type "C" on the second (no quotes)
    3. Enter the search terms, separated by / if more than 1, for example: lorem/ipsum/consectetuer



      I couldn't figure out the other modes, or the A/B/etc keys it tells you you can use while viewing results.

      Entering "S" for the second prompt instead seems to make it only show the line the result was found on, instead of "Context".



      Sorry, no useless demo videos for you. If I get bored enough I might make a SSDS clone in C# and .NET.


  • @DrPhil said:

    Hey Swampy - if you really want to get your product out to the massses, why not spend $70 at this site: http://submit-everywhere.com/ and get it added to every download site on the internet?

    Not only that, but some other download sites out there could even give it five stars and highest recommendations! Great publicity for yours to take!

    [ Never ask for publicity tips from someone who a) thinks everyone should be entitled to award of some sort and b) admires the ingenuity of other humans when they con yet other humans out of their money =) ]

    Okay, I think SwampSearch qualifies for this prestigious old award, even when it's strictly speaking not a website:

    [Titanic Navigation Award]



  • @Soviut said:

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    I never did say that VMS had Visual Basic. If I did. It is due to my scatter brain.

    I think I've figured it out, SpectateSwamp has asbergers! 

     

    No, SpecatateSwamp does not exibit the common symtoms of Asperger syndrome (or Asperger's syndrome). He fits the pattern of Schizophrenia much better.

    I am qualified to say this because I have been diagnosed with Asperger syndrome. 



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    I'm sure the Big mystery of computing is what has kept them [the MASSES] away from digital video in droves.
    Not that you'll understand this, SpectateSwamp, but here goes:

    No, here is what keeps the MASSES away from <insert new-fangled technology subject here>:

    People who are power-hungry, money-hungry, and/or retarded decide that they can make the greatest and easiest "utility" for the common man, but end up creating the most complex, pointless, absurdly difficult, and ugliest bastard-spawn that Lucifer himself would fear. Basking in love of their unholy creation, these morons then go around touting it to the common man as the greatest thing available, and the easist to use. The MASSES, not knowing any better, fall for this drivel as though they were eating Ambrosia because "hey, this is supposed to be the greatest thing available!", so they give it a whirl. After selling their soul in an attempt to reclaim sanity, they decide <new-fangled technology> is just too difficult and don't bother trying anything else, because everything else must be worse and/or more difficult.

    Translation for SpectateSwamp:

    SSDS no good no no good. booooooo! kill it before it kills you! Aaargh it burns! save the MASSES! oh, won't somebody think of the MASSES?!



  •  No you're not qualified; only a qualified psychologist is...

     

    Has anybody noticed that Swampy has stopped calling people things like "DerulaSwamp"? Maybe he actually listened when somebody said it was annoying.



  • @tombom said:

     No you're not qualified; only a qualified psychologist is...

     

     

    A quote would help us know exactly what post you are referring to.



  • @tombom said:

     No you're not qualified; only a qualified psychologist is...

     

    Has anybody noticed that Swampy has stopped calling people things like "DerulaSwamp"? Maybe he actually listened when somebody said it was annoying.

     

    No; a qualified psychologist would be qualified to make the diagnosis.

    The qualification for making an informed comment is to be informed. {Hint: This was my claim}

    Some people on this board are qualified to make uninformed comments. 



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    A quote would help us know exactly what post you are referring to.

     

     

    It was that guy who has just replied to me. I'm not really used to this forum so I couldn't work out how to quote.

     

    And yeah you're right GettinSadda. I'm too used to people who think they can make an authoritative diagnosis over the internet after reading a wikipedia article.



  • @tombom said:

    It was that guy who has just replied to me. I'm not really used to this forum hence why I didn't quote.
     

    Was just a general comment. Using quoting (in moderation) makes the thread much easier to read.

    @tombom said:

    I'm too used to people who think they can make an authoritative diagnosis over the internet after reading a wikipedia article.

    To be fair though, I think he did a good job of explaining why he was qualified to make the statement.

     



  • @GettinSadda said:

    @tombom said:
     No you're not qualified; only a qualified psychologist is...

     

    Has anybody noticed that Swampy has stopped calling people things like "DerulaSwamp"? Maybe he actually listened when somebody said it was annoying.

     

    No; a qualified psychologist would be qualified to make the diagnosis.

    The qualification for making an informed comment is to be informed. {Hint: This was my claim}

    Some people on this board are qualified to make uninformed comments.

     

    Wait, I have to get qualified to make uniformed comments now?  But how will I post anything anymore?

    For the record, I don't have Asperger syndrome, but I agree that SS probably doesn't, either.  There's no paranoia associated with ASDs.  His behavior is more akin to schizophrenia.  The paranoid delusions and disorganized speech are enough to consider him per the DSM IV, though it'd really help our case if he has hallucinations or goes into catatonia.



  • @bstorer said:

    though it'd really help our case if he has hallucinations or goes into catatonia.
     

    He does disappear seemingly in the middle of 'conversations' and claims to be walking the dog...

    Hey, we can assume whatever facts we want... he is a moron, so who cares if it is truthful or not?



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    @bstorer said:

    though it'd really help our case if he has hallucinations or goes into catatonia.
     

    He does disappear seemingly in the middle of 'conversations' and claims to be walking the dog...

    Hey, we can assume whatever facts we want... he is a moron, so who cares if it is truthful or not?

    Good point.  My new theory: he's a construct.  Forged from sculpted clay baken in the fires of a funeral pyre, embued with the soul of the Russian mystic Rasputin, long ago sent mad as his soul toiled on the astral planes of infinity, and risen during a dark ceremony during a full moon on a Friday the 13th, SpectateSwamp was created for one purpose: to herald the coming of Cthulu and bring about the return of the Old Ones.  Look upon Swamp Search and despair, ye mortals!  Your soul shall be devoured, pulled into its gaping maw by the tangled tendrils of GOTOs, your body crushed under the weight of endless global variables, your sanity stretched to its limit and beyond by the deranged interface.

    Of course, that's not a diagnosis, just an informed opinion... 



  • @bstorer said:

    Good point.  My new theory: he's a construct.  Forged from sculpted clay baken in the fires of a funeral pyre, embued with the soul of the Russian mystic Rasputin, long ago sent mad as his soul toiled on the astral planes of infinity, and risen during a dark ceremony during a full moon on a Friday the 13th, SpectateSwamp was created for one purpose: to herald the coming of Cthulu and bring about the return of the Old Ones.  Look upon Swamp Search and despair, ye mortals!  Your soul shall be devoured, pulled into its gaping maw by the tangled tendrils of GOTOs, your body crushed under the weight of endless global variables, your sanity stretched to its limit and beyond by the deranged interface.

    Of course, that's not a diagnosis, just an informed opinion... 

     

    Sounds good to me, run with it.



  • SpectateSwamp and learning

     

    Has anybody noticed that Swampy has stopped calling people things like "DerulaSwamp"? Maybe he actually listened when somebody said it was annoying.

    I think you are underestimating his powers of learning. For example, at the beginning of this thread, he'd hit Enter at the end of each line, but he stopped doing that once it was pointed out to him how to use a text box.

    If he continues learning at this rate, may-be he'll write a decent desktop search in about ... 800 years? 



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    @bstorer said:

    Good point.  My new theory: he's a construct.  Forged from sculpted clay baken in the fires of a funeral pyre, embued with the soul of the Russian mystic Rasputin, long ago sent mad as his soul toiled on the astral planes of infinity, and risen during a dark ceremony during a full moon on a Friday the 13th, SpectateSwamp was created for one purpose: to herald the coming of Cthulu and bring about the return of the Old Ones.  Look upon Swamp Search and despair, ye mortals!  Your soul shall be devoured, pulled into its gaping maw by the tangled tendrils of GOTOs, your body crushed under the weight of endless global variables, your sanity stretched to its limit and beyond by the deranged interface.

    Of course, that's not a diagnosis, just an informed opinion...

     

    Sounds good to me, run with it.

     

    Okay, we're going to need wooden stakes, garlic, silver bullets, holy water, a cross, torches, pitchforks, a member of the Belmont family, and a new planet to move to when we nuke this one from orbit...  I've got the garlic.



  • @bstorer said:

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    @bstorer said:

    Good point.  My new theory: he's a construct.  Forged from sculpted clay baken in the fires of a funeral pyre, embued with the soul of the Russian mystic Rasputin, long ago sent mad as his soul toiled on the astral planes of infinity, and risen during a dark ceremony during a full moon on a Friday the 13th, SpectateSwamp was created for one purpose: to herald the coming of Cthulu and bring about the return of the Old Ones.  Look upon Swamp Search and despair, ye mortals!  Your soul shall be devoured, pulled into its gaping maw by the tangled tendrils of GOTOs, your body crushed under the weight of endless global variables, your sanity stretched to its limit and beyond by the deranged interface.

    Of course, that's not a diagnosis, just an informed opinion...

     

    Sounds good to me, run with it.

     

    Okay, we're going to need wooden stakes, garlic, silver bullets, holy water, a cross, torches, pitchforks, a member of the Belmont family, and a new planet to move to when we nuke this one from orbit...  I've got the garlic.

     

    Jeez, sounds easier to show him Java, and send him over to the Java forums...



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    Jeez, sounds easier to show him Java, and send him over to the Java forums...

     

    No dice.  Java doesn't have goto. 



  • @bstorer said:

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    Jeez, sounds easier to show him Java, and send him over to the Java forums...

     

    No dice.  Java doesn't have goto. 

    No, but he could abuse the living hell out of the break statement...

    Edit: and technically, it does: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/jvms/second_edition/html/Instructions2.doc5.html#goto


  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    @bstorer said:

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    Jeez, sounds easier to show him Java, and send him over to the Java forums...

     

    No dice.  Java doesn't have goto. 

    No, but he could abuse the living hell out of the break statement...

    Edit: and technically, it does: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/jvms/second_edition/html/Instructions2.doc5.html#goto

     

    The JVM has goto, sure.  And actually, goto is a reserved word in the Java language, too.  You just can't use it.  But abusing break could be fun when tied into labels.  Actually, let's convince him to use Java, and then when he complains that goto doesn't work, then we send him to the Java forums.



  • @bstorer said:

    The JVM has goto, sure.  And actually, goto is a reserved word in the Java language, too.  You just can't use it. 
     

    That was the idea behind "technically".

    I say we just teach him to abuse break, and watch the carnage ensue...

    I would bet if he started this in Java he would find some other retard to work on it with him.



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    Jeez, sounds easier to show him Java, and send him over to the Java forums...

    I can see it now...jSSDS, sending random political SMS messages to your phone since 2008.


  • ♿ (Parody)

    @bstorer said:

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    @bstorer said:

    VMS already had SEARCH.  Why would you rewrite it?  And if the VAX had been running Unix, you had grep. 

    The staff were not allowed to be at the "command prompt" They had to be in the Plant Management Information System at all times. So I wrote a Itsy-bitsy search. It got used quite a bit. Summer students did use the Vax/Search to locate various Electric Motors. They worked in the Maintenance department and had more power than the accounting departments.

     

    I'm sick of typing it out, so I'm turning it into an acronym: TDEMSYR!  You could run some disaster of a search that you created, but not a simple command line program?  Just so I have some idea what I'm dealing with here, when was this? 

     

    From what he's said before, I suspect that he was the IT staff, or whatever they called it in the 70s, so he was probably adding various menus, reports, etc to whatever the 'enterprise' application was.  So for the users, it was just another green screen that they could find by [probably] typing an obscure naviation command. 


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @tombom said:

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    A quote would help us know exactly what post you are referring to.

     

    It was that guy who has just replied to me. I'm not really used to this forum so I couldn't work out how to quote.

    Please try to learn. Not all of us actually come here to read the new messages - some of us get them by email.

    Unless you belong to the group that either fails to quote anything from the previous message (the error in this case) or quotes all of it. In which case please stop replying.

    Please?



  • @PJH said:

    @tombom said:

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    A quote would help us know exactly what post you are referring to.

     

    It was that guy who has just replied to me. I'm not really used to this forum so I couldn't work out how to quote.

    Please try to learn. Not all of us actually come here to read the new messages - some of us get them by email.

    Unless you belong to the group that either fails to quote anything from the previous message (the error in this case) or quotes all of it. In which case please stop replying.

    Please?

     

    He did correct himself, and you even quoted him quoting me. 

    He is fine now. No need to keep correcting him.

    <sarcasm> Now, I am sure you will get flamed now that you made a correction against someone. Right? </sarcasm>



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    <sarcasm> Now, I am sure you will get flamed now that you made a correction against someone. Right? </sarcasm>
    You don't need to quote everything that the person you are replying to said.



  • Spectate Swamp - Computing without a computer!

    @Treeki said:

    Would SSDS even run from a DVD without blowing up? Oh right, it would display a VB error message in the titlebar. It modifies files like files.txt when it runs.
    If the name of the program is in cmd(45) then the program does not try and update the files.txt search.txt or control.txt I usually set the autorun program name to special.exe and cmd(45) has "special" on that line in control.txt so no updates.

     

    @Treeki said:

    I couldn't figure out the other modes, or the A/B/etc keys it tells you you can use while viewing results.
    Entering "S" for the second prompt instead seems to make it only show the line the result was found on, instead of "Context".
    It is easier if shown the commands first. "y" to view the last page in a text file. "e" to enter notes that are appended to the end of the file with a time and date stamp. 'xxx' to Export displayed results. "z" to append the clipboard to the end of a text file.

    So nobody cuts and pastes stuff off the net. But keep bookmarks. Boo Boo Boo you boobs. The net is changing. Either cut and paste the text or screen capture the info. Because You probably won't be able to find that site or information later. Other DTS would require you to keep that data in itsy-bitsy files rather than appending it to a much larger "net_forums.txt" or "net_birds.txt" for "net_politics.txt"

    @Treeki said:

    Sorry, no useless demo videos for you. If I get bored enough I might make a SSDS clone in C# and .NET.
    Let me know what bores you I'll try and help out. You have done pretty good so far.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    So nobody cuts and pastes stuff off the net. But keep bookmarks. Boo Boo Boo you boobs. The net is changing. Either cut and paste the text or screen capture the info. Because You probably won't be able to find that site or information later.

     

    I'm pretty sure I pointed out the Wayback Machine much earlier, but of course it's just par for the course that you would have overlooked it.

     



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    So nobody cuts and pastes stuff off the net. But keep bookmarks. Boo Boo Boo you boobs. The net is changing. Either cut and paste the text or screen capture the info. Because You probably won't be able to find that site or information later. Other DTS would require you to keep that data in itsy-bitsy files rather than appending it to a much larger "net_forums.txt" or "net_birds.txt" for "net_politics.txt"

    If you put everything in one or two files, wouldn't you already know which files to look in?  Why would you need desktop search at all, then?  Why not just use Notepad or Wordpad or one of the many other text editors you probably have?

    Also, the idea of "computing without a computer" is, well, terrible.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    So nobody cuts and pastes stuff off the net. But keep bookmarks. Boo Boo Boo you boobs. The net is changing. Either cut and paste the text or screen capture the info. Because You probably won't be able to find that site or information later.
     

    I already said that I save any interesting articles or pages to HTML format, which is much more useful than plain text, and is still searchable.  Also, programs like EverNote let you keep web clippings in a usable format.  There are plenty of of web archivers for both Windows (e.g. WebZip, wget) and Linux (e.g. wget) that let you save complete sites from the web, INCLUDING IMAGES, VIDEO, HYPERLINKS, FORMATTING AND ALL THE OTHER STUFF THAT YOU LOSE WHEN YOU SAVE TO PLAIN TEXT.

    Like others said, there is archive.org for those who don't want to save from the web.

    <font color="#ff0000" size="7">SSDS DOES NOTHING TO HELP PEOPLE SAVE DATA FROM THE WEB.</font>



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    So nobody cuts and pastes stuff off the net. But keep bookmarks. Boo Boo Boo you boobs. The net is changing. Either cut and paste the text or screen capture the info. Because You probably won't be able to find that site or information later.
     

    Would you please answer this simple question?  HOW IN GOD'S NAME CAN I SEARCH INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN SCREEN CAPTURED OR VIDEOED IN?  Seems like once it's in .JPG or .MPEG format (or whatever), you've completely lost the ability to search any of your data.

    I would really like to know. 



  • @CodeSimian said:

    HOW IN GOD'S NAME CAN I SEARCH INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN SCREEN CAPTURED OR VIDEOED IN?  Seems like once it's in .JPG or .MPEG format (or whatever), you've completely lost the ability to search any of your data.

    I would really like to know. 

    He uses some awful textfile index which contains the metadata for all his files.

    If he was SMART, and REALLY interested in indexing all his videos and photos and everything, he'd use something like iPhoto or Photoshop Album. Both are, for what they're worth, good at this task, and I believe iPhoto stores the metadata in the photo (not 100% sure on that).

    As an aside, whenever I render anything to WMV (it's actually a fairly decent video format!), I fill in all the metadata fields - Title, Author, Comments, etc. Windows Desktop Search indexes that metadata automatically. Honestly, the more I use Windows Desktop Search, the more I grow to love it...



  • @elgate said:

    He uses some awful textfile index which contains the metadata for all his files.
     

    In other words, as many have pointed out, SSDS is simply an index-based search which forces you to create your own index.   Spectate will never accept that fact, though.



  • @elgate said:

    @CodeSimian said:
    HOW IN GOD'S NAME CAN I SEARCH INFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN SCREEN CAPTURED OR VIDEOED IN?  Seems like once it's in .JPG or .MPEG format (or whatever), you've completely lost the ability to search any of your data.

    I would really like to know. 

    He uses some awful textfile index which contains the metadata for all his files.

     

     

    And, since he thinks "search" means "randomly display stuff" rather than "find and display the specific thing I asked for", he thus uses SSDS to randomly display videos until the right one happens to pop up.  This is, of course, also awful.

     



  • @elgate said:

    If he was SMART, and REALLY interested in indexing all his videos and photos and everything, he'd use something like iPhoto or Photoshop Album.
     

    If he were smart, this thread would have ended over 2,300 replies ago.


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