Bottled Spring Water WTF
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@MasterPlanSoftware said:
@PerdidoPunk said:
@MasterPlanSoftware said:
@dlikhten said:
If you boil your tap water you get way cleaner water than bottled water caz its now clean from all bacteria too.
Boiling water doesn't do anything. I don't know where you got that idea from.
The only time that MIGHT be beneficial is if you think you may have microbes in your water.
I think you are confusing the concept of distilled water.
Wasn't that his point about boiling it?
Again, you still wouldn't be removing anything. For most, this would be unacceptable.
Just because water is bottled does not mean that it was filtered really well from any bacteria.
W/E bottled water WTFs are a thing beaten to death already by every known comedian, and then some.
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@dlikhten said:
W/E bottled water WTFs are a thing beaten to death already by every known comedian, and then some.
So we should be expecting a Mandatory Fun Day on that subject when, next week sometime?
(Just kidding, George... I'm apparently in the minority who don't mind the comics.)
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@NSCoder said:
I agree, bottled water is a WTF. How spoilt people must be, to be lucky enough to have clean water on tap and yet, waste resources bottling and transporting water from somewhere else for the sake of fashion or taste. Millions of people have to walk twenty miles uphill (both ways) in the snow with paper bags on their feet (well, maybe no luxuries such as snow or paper bags) just to get some foul-tasting water which will probably give them dysentry.
There's also the matter of convenience (for those of us who don't have to walk 20 miles uphill for water). I agree, drinking it for fashion or taste doesn't really make sense. But when you stop at a tiny gas station that has a single cooler of drinks for sale, your choices are pretty much limited to soda, bottled water, or I suppose you could bring your own cup into the store and fill it up in the bathroom sink. But I generally avoid option 3.
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Two pages of *yawn*
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@MasterPlanSoftware said:
Again, you still wouldn't be removing anything. For most, this would be unacceptable.
I fail to see how destroying microbes via boiling is insufficient for most people. Local governments often issue boil water advisories when floods or water main breaks occur, instructing people to boil water to be used for consumption or food preparation for at least one minute to kill microbes. Some organisms, such as c. botulinum (source of the botulism toxin) are resistant to heat and require exposure higher temperatures than the boiling point of water to be killed. However, given the rarity of such organisms, for most applications, boiling water to disinfect is sufficient.
One interesting thing to note is that tap water (most notably in NYC) commonly contains microscopic crustaceans that are considered to be unkosher. As a consequence, a few years ago, many orthodox jews in the NYC area installed expensive filters to make their water kosher. In this case, boiling is insufficient to make the water acceptable.
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@shadowman said:
@NSCoder said:
I agree, bottled water is a WTF. How spoilt people must be, to be lucky enough to have clean water on tap and yet, waste resources bottling and transporting water from somewhere else for the sake of fashion or taste. Millions of people have to walk twenty miles uphill (both ways) in the snow with paper bags on their feet (well, maybe no luxuries such as snow or paper bags) just to get some foul-tasting water which will probably give them dysentry.
There's also the matter of convenience (for those of us who don't have to walk 20 miles uphill for water). I agree, drinking it for fashion or taste doesn't really make sense. But when you stop at a tiny gas station that has a single cooler of drinks for sale, your choices are pretty much limited to soda, bottled water, or I suppose you could bring your own cup into the store and fill it up in the bathroom sink. But I generally avoid option 3.
Exactly. As I said in the OP, the reason I got the water bottles was really for convenience rather than any inherent mistrust of the water supply. And the fact that it's still on my desk several weeks later suggests that I've emptied and refilled it several times...
Friend of mine drinks that "Fiji" water... he's also big into "natural" stuff (like, sugar is better for you than Splenda because Splenda has chlorine in it!) and environmental issues. I should send him that BBC link. I use a Brita pitcher at work and an inline filter/softener at home so tap water doesn't bother me at all.
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@PerdidoPunk said:
@MasterPlanSoftware said:
Again, you still wouldn't be removing anything. For most, this would be unacceptable.
I fail to see how destroying microbes via boiling is insufficient for most people. Local governments often issue boil water advisories when floods or water main breaks occur, instructing people to boil water to be used for consumption or food preparation for at least one minute to kill microbes. Some organisms, such as c. botulinum (source of the botulism toxin) are resistant to heat and require exposure higher temperatures than the boiling point of water to be killed. However, given the rarity of such organisms, for most applications, boiling water to disinfect is sufficient.
One interesting thing to note is that tap water (most notably in NYC) commonly contains microscopic crustaceans that are considered to be unkosher. As a consequence, a few years ago, many orthodox jews in the NYC area installed expensive filters to make their water kosher. In this case, boiling is insufficient to make the water acceptable.
Well, bacteria is large enough to filter. If I remember my Microbiology lab well enough, the smallest bacterium is .22micrometers. The problem with boiling (not that this would be an issue for water) is that you also destroy proteins. That would be an issue if you had some kind of vitamin fortified water since vitamins are just co-enzymes.
Viruses are much smaller than bacteria (they fall in the 10x-9 aka nano range) which is why boiling is more effective if you're just needing to kill *everything* lol. However, viruses are more fragile than bacteria in that they need a cell or a host to replicate their proteins, so it's not likely that they will survive sitting in water for very long.
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@PerdidoPunk said:
One interesting thing to note is that tap water (most notably in NYC) commonly contains microscopic crustaceans that are considered to be unkosher.
Ok.. I can deal with the standard microbes, but that's just disturbing. I didn't need to know that.
@GalacticCowboy said:
I use a Brita pitcher at work and an inline filter/softener at home so tap water doesn't bother me at all.
We used to have a spring water cooler at work, but to save money, the director had a cooler hooked up directly to the water line. It has a filter in it.
I need to install a filter/softener at home. That water leaves a funky residue on everything it touches. If the shower doesn't get scrubbed in a week, black stuff coats every surface that holds water, such as the caps of infrequently used bath products and along the seal of the faucet.
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@AbbydonKrafts said:
I need to install a filter/softener at home. That water leaves a funky residue on everything it touches. If the shower doesn't get scrubbed in a week, black stuff coats every surface that holds water, such as the caps of infrequently used bath products and along the seal of the faucet.
Well water?
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@Lysis said:
Well water?
Nope. City water. I don't know who the actual source is as our city buys it from another agency (county, I think).
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@AbbydonKrafts said:
@Lysis said:
Well water?
Nope. City water. I don't know who the actual source is as our city buys it from another agency (county, I think).
It's microscopic crustacean excrement!
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