Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?



  • @CodeSimian said:

    @repeater said:

    SEARCH. EXTRACT. REPORT.

     

    Your ideas are intriguing and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

    No need, you now know everything there is to know about computing that has and will ever exist! All problems boil down to this, and should be easy to solve now. And by "easy" I mean that it should take 10 years.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    LazySwamp is a name that may apply to the whole forum. Fill out the CVS, make a video of that. Show us right from startup. Quit repeating yourself. Answer all the dumb questions... Bla bla. Somebody else do the Source Forge stuff.
     

    Spectate, nobody here has any obligation to do anything for you.  We are not lazy, we just don't care.  We have no incentive, economic, moral, intellectual, or otherwise, to do anything for you or SSDS.  You have given us no compelling reason to care.  The only reason we are still here is to laugh at you and SSDS.

    Seriously, you are being extremely obnoxious.  Sure, I've personally been pretty rude to you in the past, but I've also tried to be polite and sincere.  It seems neither of those approaches work particularly well.

    As always, hope you are enjoying all the attention.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    LazySwamp is a name that may apply to the whole forum. Fill out the CVS, make a video of that. Show us right from startup. Quit repeating yourself. Answer all the dumb questions... Bla bla. Somebody else do the Source Forge stuff. Probably an attempt at sending Swamp search away. You still need some good videos demonstrating navigation thru video music pics text. Wow doesn't that excite you.

    So WE are all lazy because we won't do your homework for you? What a spoiled brat. This is what I keep hounding you about to answer, here, because I feel you owe us an explaination.

    Why do you expect US to do work for you and listen to your ideas when you, by your own admission (again), refuse to put forth any effort whatsoever or respect the opinions of the professionals you asked to help you?



  • Search changes computing

    @repeater said:

    SEARCH. EXTRACT. REPORT.

    SEARCH. EXTRACT. REPORT.

    SEARCH. EXTRACT. REPORT.

    SEARCH. EXTRACT. REPORT.

    SEARCH. EXTRACT. REPORT.

    SEARCH. EXTRACT. REPORT.

    Swamp search changes that sequence a bit. SEARCH. VIEW. (NO REPORT REQUIRED). Some times you just want a quick look at your data or files.


  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    @repeater said:

    SEARCH. EXTRACT. REPORT.

    Swamp search changes that sequence a bit. SEARCH. VIEW. (NO REPORT REQUIRED). Some times you just want a quick look at your data or files.
    ...and for all those other times, when you want to have it take FOREVER to look at your data or files, use SSDS!



  • Swamp stumbles into Lazy Forum

    @CodeSimian said:

    Spectate, nobody here has any obligation to do anything for you.  We are not lazy, we just don't care.  We have no incentive, economic, moral, intellectual, or otherwise, to do anything for you or SSDS.  You have given us no compelling reason to care.  The only reason we are still here is to laugh at you and SSDS.

    You don't have to do anything other than have fun with SSDS. It's already good enough. If you decide to take Swamp Search farther. People would thank you. I would thank you. The Lazies here would really thank you. Maybe I should join the Lazies.

     

    Cheers SpectateLazy



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    @CodeSimian said:

    Spectate, nobody here has any obligation to do anything for you.  We are not lazy, we just don't care.  We have no incentive, economic, moral, intellectual, or otherwise, to do anything for you or SSDS.  You have given us no compelling reason to care.  The only reason we are still here is to laugh at you and SSDS.

    You don't have to do anything other than have fun with SSDS. It's already good enough. If you decide to take Swamp Search farther. People would thank you. I would thank you. The Lazies here would really thank you. Maybe I should join the Lazies.

     

    Cheers SpectateLazy

     

    Sigh.  Yes, SSDS is good for you, and we are all very happy that you like it so very much.  However, it is not suitable for anyone else, as evidenced by the undisputable fact that nobody else wants to use it.

    Is there anything that anyone could possible say to make you give up this hopeless, quixotic quest of yours? 



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    You don't have to do anything other than have fun with SSDS. It's already good enough.

    Other equally factual statements: 

    • You don't have to do anything other than have fun with Ebola.  It's already good enough.
    • You don't have to do anything other than have fun with do-it-yourself trepanation.  It's already good enough.
    • You don't have to do anything other than have fun with a large, spiked rod shoved up your ass.  It's already good enough. 


  • @bstorer said:

    You don't have to do anything other than have fun with a large, spiked rod shoved up your ass.  It's already good enough. 
     

    Careful, you just might be giving Spectate an idea for the next "learning activity" down at the ol' Swamp Shack....



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    @CodeSimian said:

    Spectate, nobody here has any obligation to do anything for you.  We are not lazy, we just don't care.  We have no incentive, economic, moral, intellectual, or otherwise, to do anything for you or SSDS.  You have given us no compelling reason to care.  The only reason we are still here is to laugh at you and SSDS.

    You don't have to do anything other than have fun with SSDS. It's already good enough. If you decide to take Swamp Search farther. People would thank you. I would thank you. The Lazies here would really thank you. Maybe I should join the Lazies.

     

    ??

    Cheers SpectateLazy

    I actually caught myself getting mad reading this and writing a vitrolic reponse (deleted it and calmed down, as I am reading this all for the humor of it) - I managed to read 43 pages and not get riled up but the laziness thing really stabs me.

    Spectate - The reason this made me angry is that I take an insane amount of pride in my work, and have spent the last decade learning and working and producing something to show for it, all because I care about my craft.

    You spent the last ten years wasting time writing this while all of us were actually contributing something, whether that be to an employeer or to open source projects or whatever. You yourself don't even seem interested in making your own software work, why should we be? Then to call us lazy because of your inability to do anything of value is just absurdly amusing. Do you even read back what you write when combing through all your search results?



  • @repeater said:

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    @CodeSimian said:

    Spectate, nobody here has any obligation to do anything for you.  We are not lazy, we just don't care.  We have no incentive, economic, moral, intellectual, or otherwise, to do anything for you or SSDS.  You have given us no compelling reason to care.  The only reason we are still here is to laugh at you and SSDS.

    You don't have to do anything other than have fun with SSDS. It's already good enough. If you decide to take Swamp Search farther. People would thank you. I would thank you. The Lazies here would really thank you. Maybe I should join the Lazies.

     

    ??

    Cheers SpectateLazy

    I actually caught myself getting mad reading this and writing a vitrolic reponse (deleted it and calmed down, as I am reading this all for the humor of it) - I managed to read 43 pages and not get riled up but the laziness thing really stabs me.

    Spectate - The reason this made me angry is that I take an insane amount of pride in my work, and have spent the last decade learning and working and producing something to show for it, all because I care about my craft.

    You spent the last ten years wasting time writing this while all of us were actually contributing something, whether that be to an employeer or to open source projects or whatever. You yourself don't even seem interested in making your own software work, why should we be? Then to call us lazy because of your inability to do anything of value is just absurdly amusing. Do you even read back what you write when combing through all your search results?

     He doesn't care what anyone thinks.  I believe he is truly a sociopath, and I don't mean that as a cheap shot.  He truly doesn't care how his words affect anyone else.  He doesn't care if we like him, he doesn't care if we hate him.  He thinks that the more annoying he is, the more likely we are to help him, simply because we are paying more "attention" to him.

    Either that, or he is the world's greatest, most dedicated troll.  After all, how many people spend TEN YEARS OF THEIR LIFE  creating an Internet practical joke?



  • @CodeSimian said:

     He doesn't care what anyone thinks.  I believe he is truly a sociopath, and I don't mean that as a cheap shot.  He truly doesn't care how his words affect anyone else.  He doesn't care if we like him, he doesn't care if we hate him.  He thinks that the more annoying he is, the more likely we are to help him, simply because we are paying more "attention" to him.

    Either that, or he is the world's greatest, most dedicated troll.  After all, how many people spend TEN YEARS OF THEIR LIFE  creating an Internet practical joke?

    I agree, at this point it is the only thing that makes sense. Even the other explaination (ten year troll) would point to some sort of massive mental damage. Something would have to be very very wrong with you to waste that much of your life on purpose, for a joke.

    That is also why I was suprised that he actually riled me up. It means I let a crazy person sneak in to my brain for a few minutes. Oh shit!



  • @repeater said:

    It means I let a crazy person sneak in to my brain for a few minutes. Oh shit!
     

    Unfortunately, you have just described this thread in a nutshell. 



  • That post actually sounded sad. I'll try to answer as honest and accurate as I can.

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    LazySwamp is a name that may apply to the whole forum.

    Lazy... not so much. We don't see the need to act, while we can see that you didn't yet quite prove your point. You made some videos, and sure a lot of effort went into them. But they did not prove anything. Especially none of the things you claimed. We did do videos that proved SSDS failes in special situations, but you did not respond to those videos. So you can't call us lazy. I don't call you lazy either, but your efforts point in a wrong direction. And it doesn't seem we can lead you the right way.
    @SpectateSwamp said:
    Somebody else do the Source Forge stuff. Probably an attempt at sending Swamp search away.

    We've presented you many examples why the things aren't so great how you do them. There were multiple offers to rewrite your search, but as your replies to that weren't exactly positive, though not negative either, they weren't followed any further. It seemed that you don't care because SSDS was better anyways or something. Yeah we didn't take you seriously. But that's not alone our fault, you kept claiming different things from one posting to the next. Maybe due to some memory illness, I don't know, but it seemed very odd to us. Maybe because we are just geeks and no mental experts, who knows.
    @SpectateSwamp said:
    You still need some good videos demonstrating navigation thru video music pics text.

    I hate to say it, but Random Display or "hitting enter enter enter" isn't good navigation, either. You mentioned that you like to watch random short scenes from random clips randomly. But maybe this fits only for you. I can imagine it entertains you very much. I can imagine that you can't keep much larger sequences in mind, so these shorties are pretty entertaining.


    With the risk of you not listening, I'll tell you a story nonetheless. I've written a Content Management System. To generate web sites easily. I really love it. It does exactly what I want. And it doesn't even need databases. Okay, that makes it slower, but that's not my point. I want an easy to use system. Content can be changed entirely via FTP.


    I have my swampies, too. People I told how great it was. They're actually using it. Despite it being a huge WTF. And so am I. Because I love it. I've posted it on SourceForge, too. But then... some day I learned an important thing: Others don't want it. They don't need it. They have their own way to do things. They want to have things differently.


    There are so many ways to reach your goal. It is your goal. And it is your way. SSDS might be useful to you, SpectateSwamp. But you should accept (and remember!) that we prefer GDS. Or WDS. Or Copernic, or MetaTracker, or grep.


    SpectateSwamp Desktop Search is not bad. It is your own piece of software and fits perfectly for your needs. But you should accept that we want our things done our way. Let us use slow indexers, if we want to. Let us use grep, which doesn't even do Large Font Scrolling Text. This is our way, yes it may be odd, we're geeks after all. But it is still our decision, and you cannot force us to worship SSDS.


    Thanks for listening. If you did. (Otherwise this will be my first and last serious posting on this topic.)



  • @repeater said:

    Even the other explaination (ten year troll) would point to some sort of massive mental damage. Something would have to be very very wrong with you to waste that much of your life on purpose, for a joke.
     

    Well, to be fair, there is no objective evidence that SSDS has existed for more than 2 years, tops.  Can anyone prove Swamp was working on this stuff for since 1999? 



  • @CodeSimian said:

    @repeater said:

    It means I let a crazy person sneak in to my brain for a few minutes. Oh shit!
     

    Unfortunately, you have just described this thread in a nutshell. 

    Hah! I propose a new slogan in place of that "computing's EASY button" tripe:

    Desktop Search - Help, a crazy person is in my brain!



  • Sorry for double-post, the forum locked my last post just as I was hitting edit.

    @CodeSimian said:

    @repeater said:

    Even the other explaination (ten year troll) would point to some sort of massive mental damage. Something would have to be very very wrong with you to waste that much of your life on purpose, for a joke.
     

    Well, to be fair, there is no objective evidence that SSDS has existed for more than 2 years, tops.  Can anyone prove Swamp was working on this stuff for since 1998? 

    True. Thinking back, the only evidence of this comes from his claims and the comments in the code. Maybe we are all getting played after all?

    @derula said:

    That post actually sounded sad. I'll try to answer as honest and accurate as I can.

    Very, very well put. Thanks.



  • @repeater said:

    @CodeSimian said:

    @repeater said:

    Even the other explaination (ten year troll) would point to some sort of massive mental damage. Something would have to be very very wrong with you to waste that much of your life on purpose, for a joke.
     

    Well, to be fair, there is no objective evidence that SSDS has existed for more than 2 years, tops.  Can anyone prove Swamp was working on this stuff for since 1998? 

    True. Thinking back, the only evidence of this comes from his claims and the comments in the code. Maybe we are all getting played after all?

     

    Well, 2 years is still a long time for an Internet troll.  Most 13-year old boys (or their mental equivalents) would've gotten bored by now.  So I think it's pretty safe to say this for real, unfortunately. 



  •  Another thing, a real troll would not post his real name, address, picture, videos of himself, and other personal details.  



  • @CodeSimian said:

    Can anyone prove Swamp was working on this stuff for since 1999? 
     

    It's not exactly definitive, but according to the Wayback Machine, Swampy's site was started May 4/01, with just a few links to photos on it, and then no changes until Jan 08/06 when the search stuff first shows up. Of course, there's no hits at all of 2003 -> 2005, so perhaps Wayback's crawler had to go into rehab to recover from its first hit on the new content.

    But if we take it as authoritative, then Jan 8/06 is when SSDS first started sliming up the interwebitubes. 



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    Try this test and you'll see the character display slow drastically when Cam Studio is running. You'll notice a considerable pause behind some words.
     

    Of course character display will slow down. You're playing a video, and SSDS is using a horribly slow inefficient method of drawing the text on screen. Your computer's struggling to keep up, and Windows is properly deciding that making the video play smoothly is more important than drawing some random garbage on screen in SSDS. 



  •  @SpectateSwamp said:

    LazySwamp is a name that may apply to the whole forum. Fill out the CVS, make a video of that. Show us right from startup. Quit repeating yourself. Answer all the dumb questions... Bla bla. Somebody else do the Source Forge stuff. Probably an attempt at sending Swamp search away. You still need some good videos demonstrating navigation thru video music pics text. Wow doesn't that excite you.

    No offence but isn't SSDS your project? At the very least that means you should be expected to make the executable and source available through sourceforge - the .exe as a download and source should be accessible via cvs, this is how open source projects work.

    Equally you should be passionate enough about you project to provide documentation, to read and respond to feature requests and bug submissions. Simply creating a source forge project (in the wrong category admittidly)and doing nothing else isn't going to encourage other people to join and help. As a minimum you really need to get the source into a position where it can be compiled without the need to manually create a project etc. and then check this initial project into your cvs repositry.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    Somebody else do the Source Forge stuff.

    You do understand that as a project leader at SourceForge, you have to add the volunteers as developers? I can't help but to notice that there was one enthusiastic volunteer in this thread and you didn't even ask their user name so you could add them!

    That's all it is required of you, and it's trivial to resolve: Ask of the guy's username, add them as a developer, and set their permissions. You can even make them project co-managers so you don't have to hand permissions any more.

    For example, to resolve these cries for CVS and file releases, all you need to do is add someone as a developer and give them CVS commit access and file release access.

    Before you do this, it is impossible for anyone to do this stuff. It's not a question of attitude or willingness - it's a matter of control at sourceforge.net site itself. You may want to let people to "do the Source Forge stuff", but unless you give them the correct permissions, no one can help you. It's not really that hard.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    Wow doesn't that excite you.
     

     

    NO! 

     

    There. Got it?! 



  • Dear Swamp, 

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    Quit repeating yourself.
     

    We can really make some progress if you...

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    Answer all the dumb questions...

    ... and ...

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    Show us right from startup.

    You know, ...

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    LazySwamp is a name that may apply to the whole forum.

    but that really doesn't matter, because...

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    Somebody else do the Source Forge stuff

    That is: YOU. Because it's YOUR project. 

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    Wow doesn't that excite you.

     

     

     

     

     



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    Somebody else do the Source Forge stuff.
     

     Which part of "NOBODY WANTS TO TOUCH YOUR MESS OF A SO-CALLED "SEARCH"" you do not understand?

     @SpectateSwamp said:

    Wow doesn't that excite you.

     No, it doesn't.

     



  • @bstorer said:

    Other equally factual statements: 

    • You don't have to do anything other than have fun with Ebola.  It's already good enough.
    • You don't have to do anything other than have fun with do-it-yourself trepanation.  It's already good enough.
    • You don't have to do anything other than have fun with a large, spiked rod shoved up your ass.  It's already good enough. 

     

     

    LOL 



  • @WWWWolf said:

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    Somebody else do the Source Forge stuff.

    You do understand that as a project leader at SourceForge, you have to add the volunteers as developers? I can't help but to notice that there was one enthusiastic volunteer in this thread and you didn't even ask their user name so you could add them!

    That's all it is required of you, and it's trivial to resolve: Ask of the guy's username, add them as a developer, and set their permissions. You can even make them project co-managers so you don't have to hand permissions any more.

    For example, to resolve these cries for CVS and file releases, all you need to do is add someone as a developer and give them CVS commit access and file release access.

    Before you do this, it is impossible for anyone to do this stuff. It's not a question of attitude or willingness - it's a matter of control at sourceforge.net site itself. You may want to let people to "do the Source Forge stuff", but unless you give them the correct permissions, no one can help you. It's not really that hard.

     

    You are kidding, right?

    @SociopathSwamp said:

     I don't even know if I am an admin. Guess I had better check SourceForge out. Now. Thanks.
     

    He thinks this is all magic.  Write a "useful" "app", and the world will beat down his doorstep to use it with little to no effort on his part (i.e. by spamming a few dozen websites).  Submit a project to SourceForge and the "open source" community will automatically help him "improve" it.



  • Desktop Search Privacy Risk - Or Sharing Opportunity??

    @WWWWolf said:

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    Somebody else do the Source Forge stuff.

    You do understand that as a project leader at SourceForge, you have to add the volunteers as developers? I can't help but to notice that there was one enthusiastic volunteer in this thread and you didn't even ask their user name so you could add them!

    That's all it is required of you, and it's trivial to resolve: Ask of the guy's username, add them as a developer, and set their permissions. You can even make them project co-managers so you don't have to hand permissions any more.

    For example, to resolve these cries for CVS and file releases, all you need to do is add someone as a developer and give them CVS commit access and file release access.

    Before you do this, it is impossible for anyone to do this stuff. It's not a question of attitude or willingness - it's a matter of control at sourceforge.net site itself. You may want to let people to "do the Source Forge stuff", but unless you give them the correct permissions, no one can help you. It's not really that hard.

    I don't like Source Forge software. Just took another look at CVS this morning. That's not sharing. More like source hording. I'd sooner waste my time testing the changes and demoing other Swamp capabilities. And the source.txt is available anyway. That's enough. I checked some of the other search engine projects. Nobody seems to have any helpers. What's the point.

    Who knows that enthusiastic volunteer could be some kinda plant or frustrated Indexer. Just there to distract Me and the Swampies. Where are the Source Forge setup video examples? Is Swamp Search the only one that uses this media? Is everybody else back in the 70's?

    The Swampies do appreciate the info WolfSwamp. Thanks.

    I use that PreView option all the time. WoW. SpectateSwamp Editing. Budging a bit here and there. Don't budge me too much.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    I don't like Source Forge software. Just took another look at CVS this morning. That's not sharing. More like source hording. I'd sooner waste my time testing the changes and demoing other Swamp capabilities. And the source.txt is available anyway. That's enough. I checked some of the other search engine projects. Nobody seems to have any helpers. What's the point.
     

    Translation:

    • This is too hard
    • I don't understand it
    • I'm selfish and lazy, you do the work for me
    • I'll just continue the same tried-and-true method OF DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WITH LITTLE TO NO SUCCESS, in the hopes that it'll somehow start converting normal people into mindless Swampies


  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    I use that PreView option all the time. WoW. SpectateSwamp Editing. Budging a bit here and there. Don't budge me too much.
     

    THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE YOU RETARD.

    <font size="7">THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE YOU RETARD.</font> 



  • SourceForge.net Projects need video

    @CodeSimian said:

    Translation:

    • This is too hard
    • I don't understand it
    • I'm selfish and lazy, you do the work for me
    • I'll just continue the same tried-and-true method OF DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WITH LITTLE TO NO SUCCESS, in the hopes that it'll somehow start converting normal people into mindless Swampies
    I don't think I'd even join if somebody else did the setup. Too much mindless computer security hoops to jump through. The masses surely wouldn't be comming in droves to SourceForge.net That's my guess.


  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    I don't like Source Forge software. Just took another look at CVS this morning. That's not sharing. More like source hording. I'd sooner waste my time testing the changes and demoing other Swamp capabilities. And the source.txt is available anyway. That's enough. I checked some of the other search engine projects. Nobody seems to have any helpers. What's the point.
     

    The point is it doesn't just give people a way to download the source file but to obtain the entire project (please create a proper project), while also allowing changes to be managed, tracked and rolled back if needed.

    These things are fairly fundamental to any software development. How on earth do you get the idea it isn't sharing?

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    Where are the Source Forge setup video examples? Is Swamp Search the only one that uses this media? Is everybody else back in the 70's?

     Most people tend to find the instructions are adequate, blurred out of focus videos eat bandwidth and do not really help. Not everybody is back in the 70s, they justrealise that video isn't always the best tool for all jobs.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    @CodeSimian said:

    Translation:

    • This is too hard
    • I don't understand it
    • I'm selfish and lazy, you do the work for me
    • I'll just continue the same tried-and-true method OF DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WITH LITTLE TO NO SUCCESS, in the hopes that it'll somehow start converting normal people into mindless Swampies

    I don't think I'd even join if somebody else did the setup. Too much mindless computer security hoops to jump through. The masses surely wouldn't be comming in droves to SourceForge.net That's my guess.
     

    But you are not asking the masses to help you develop SSDS.  There are two groups of people to consider here:

    • THE MASSES: People who will theoretically use your software
    • GEEKS: People who will theoretically develop your software

     

    SourceForge is not for the masses, it is for the geeks.  If you want the masses to use your software, you need to do something called "marketing" and "advertising".  Hint: spamming random forums, knowledge bases, and academic wikis is not marketing, it is annoying.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    I don't think I'd even join if somebody else did the setup. Too much mindless computer security hoops to jump through. The masses surely wouldn't be comming in droves to SourceForge.net That's my guess.
     

    I doubt they will anyway, but not even being bothered to do anything to help people colaborate on SSDS certainly isn't going to encourage them.



  • @spenk said:

    The point is it doesn't just give people a way to download the source file but to obtain the entire project (please create a proper project), while also allowing changes to be managed, tracked and rolled back if needed.

    These things are fairly fundamental to any software development. How on earth do you get the idea it isn't sharing?

     

    In Swamp's world, anything that requires more than a Grade 9 education, a digital camcorder, and a 5-minute attention span is a big, geeky waste of time.



  • @spenk said:

    These things are fairly fundamental to any software development. How on earth do you get the idea it isn't sharing?
     

    By "sharing", he means: "Here you go - take my hopelessly broken software project and fix it for me.  I don't have time for this, I have trapline video to shoot and rare birds to watch."



  • LazySwamp

    I really can't be bothered at the moment, but if anyone's got a spare half-hour, why not knock up SSDS using a combination of grep, figlet and mplayer? Can't be hard - I reckon it could be done in about 30 lines...maybe then he'd shut the fuck up!



  • @Benn said:

    I really can't be bothered at the moment, but if anyone's got a spare half-hour, why not knock up SSDS using a combination of grep, figlet and mplayer? Can't be hard - I reckon it could be done in about 30 lines...maybe then he'd shut the fuck up!
     

    It wouldn't work unless you recreated it down to the very last bug and oddball "feature".   Seriously.



  • I once found a file describing an earlier version of it ("Keep-It Search" or something) going back to the Windows 98 days, but for the life of me I can't find it again.  Should have posted it when I first saw it.

     



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    Who knows that enthusiastic volunteer could be some kinda plant or frustrated Indexer. Just there to distract Me and the Swampies.
     

    Yup, every time you fail, it makes complete sense to blame it on a "plant".  When you lost the election, it was because of "party plants".  People don't want to use SSDS, it is because of "forum plants".

    There is no massive conspiracy against you.  The simplest, most reasonable explanation is that SSDS sucks, therefore nobody wants to use it.   

    P.S.  When you have no chance of winning an election, that is not a "democracy problem".  It is actually solid evidence that democracy is working just fine. 



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    I don't like Source Forge software. Just took another look at CVS this morning. That's not sharing. More like source hording. I'd sooner waste my time testing the changes and demoing other Swamp capabilities. And the source.txt is available anyway. That's enough.

    Okay, so you think the stuff is too difficult to use. Hint: I was just saying that you don't have to care about that stuff. Just hand developer access to someone else. The people here have been crying for version control access, what's so bad about giving it to them?

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    I checked some of the other search engine projects. Nobody seems to have any helpers. What's the point.

    In or out SourceForge? If in: Strigi, 6 active developers. One of the major players of open source desktop search apps, by the way. If out: Tracker, 32 developers (wow, some from Sun - corporate backing, baby). One of the even more massive players of the open source desktop search apps, by the way. Contrary to your belief, For some reason, these apps tend to attract attention.

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    Who knows that enthusiastic volunteer could be some kinda plant or frustrated Indexer. Just there to distract Me and the Swampies.

    Or it could have been a genuine offer for help. It's pretty hard to tell. (Folks - is Swampy genuinely concerned of someone trolling him, or is he just lazy? That's pretty hard to tell too.) Besides, if they aren't contributing anything, you can always roll back their changes and revoke their access.

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    Where are the Source Forge setup video examples? Is Swamp Search the only one that uses this media? Is everybody else back in the 70's?

    Hell no. Irrlicht folks have been making coding tutorials available in video format for quite a while now. Quite informative and factual videos, too. Fear them and learn from them!

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    The Swampies do appreciate the info WolfSwamp. Thanks.

    Always glad to help!



  • @repeater said:

    @derula said:
    That post actually sounded sad. I'll try to answer as honest and accurate as I can.

    Very, very well put. Thanks.

    I had to do it once. Now that he has completely ignored it, I know I can in good conscience continue to blame and offend him. Before, I was always feeling wrong, but from now on I know it's ok.



  • @CodeSimian said:

    YOU ARE ACTING LIKE A JACKASS

    Sounds like a good forum signature.  Lingerance, are you in the mood for a new one? 



  • @belgariontheking said:

    Sounds like a good forum signature.  Lingerance, are you in the mood for a new one? 
    Hell yes. Unfortunately the forum converts the " to &quot;



  • @emurphy said:

    I once found a file describing an earlier version of it ("Keep-It Search" or something) going back to the Windows 98 days, but for the life of me I can't find it again.  Should have posted it when I first saw it.

     

     

     

    alas, an all-too-brief search of the mighty GOOGLETRON returned nothing relevant 



  • Just a common man, eh, Spectate?

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    I don't like Source Forge software. Just took another look at CVS this morning. That's not sharing. More like source hording. I'd sooner waste my time testing the changes and demoing other Swamp capabilities. And the source.txt is available anyway. That's enough. I checked some of the other search engine projects. Nobody seems to have any helpers. What's the point.

    From my point of view, you're the lazy one who has no willingness to get out of his own little shell as to do what the rest of the 'computing community' does, EVOLVE AND INNOVATE. You're still stuck in your 1970's way of thinking and refuse to evolve from anything beyond a video camera and your project because you think you already know everything there is to know.

    But, Oh right, you're just a "common man" who shouldn't have to know anything.. Then get out. The role of technology is to evolve, expand, get better. innovate not just be stuck in one way of thinking because "the masses" don't need anything else.

     This is no longer just about your project, you made it personal with each and every one of us by slapping us in the face when we offered to help (albeit on our own terms), repetively calling us lazy when we refuse to co-operate with your every whim, then telling us you don't want to do anything because it's "too hard" or "the common man shouldn't have to know this".

      And personally, your project seems to be a hobby that you coded just to get fame, and you got the spotlight. You're not making very good use of it.

     



  • @DigitalXeron said:

    And personally, your project seems to be a hobby that you coded just to get fame, and you got the spotlight. You're not making very good use of it.
     

    Sadly, I think he actually uses SSDS every day, like he says.  If you peruse some of his non-SSDS related videos, you will see him using that blasted app to do "video re-shoots".



  • This one shows that SS is not the only muttering, impossible-to-understand-commentator out there.

    i find it hilarious!



  • @derula said:

    @repeater said:
    @derula said:
    That post actually sounded sad. I'll try to answer as honest and accurate as I can.

    Very, very well put. Thanks.

    I had to do it once. Now that he has completely ignored it, I know I can in good conscience continue to blame and offend him. Before, I was always feeling wrong, but from now on I know it's ok.

     

    I avoided posting for the longest time because it didn't seem right to insult a guy who just didn't seem to know better.  But now, he has no excuse for not making his software better.  By ignoring our useful tips of information (especial with regards to sourceforge), I now feel no sympathy for this man.

     


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