Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?



  •  @CodeSimian said:

    Oh wait, YOU ALREADY DID THAT.

    http://spectate-swamp-source.blogspot.com/

    I especially like how he starts a new blog for every post



  • @spenk said:

    Just as a final point - when you create a sourceforge project and 'go open source' you really need to do other stuff such as post the application up for download, check code into the cvs repository so people can get access etc.

    Spelling the name of his own project correctly might have also been a good place to start.

    Also, I keep having to hold myself back from filing an "ENHANCEMENT REQUEST - Add desktop search functionality to Desktop Search" bug.



  • @repeater said:

    Spelling the name of his own project correctly might have also been a good place to start.
    Good point, wonder how he will find it again if he doesn't know where to look to begin...



  • @spenk said:

    @repeater said:

    Spelling the name of his own project correctly might have also been a good place to start.
    Good point, wonder how he will find it again if he doesn't know where to look to begin...

     

    He could use his search to locate URLs: each time you access an interesting web-site, append the url to a text file. Then SSDS won't have any trouble finding it and it can be easily modified (if it already doesn't support that) to paste the matches to clipboard. There is nothing you can't do with it if you have the flow-charts.

    Remember that SSDS can locate a keyword by the beginning and the end of the word. You can search for "spec/swamp" and it will find "specatateswamp" as well as "spectateswamp". 

    By the way: how does your favourite desktop search application compare to SSDS in searching the Web!?



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    @CodeSimian said:

    In other words, you are proud of the fact that you have found a group that will put up with your shit without banning you and/or closing your threads.
    Us Grepplers have put up with quite a bit as well. Haven't told you to FO. Not once. You keep comming back. Because you all know in your hearts that the Grepplers have it and the Indexers don't. Indexers are not as much fun as us Grepplers. Grepplers can make your data dance. Indexers can't

     

     
    To a child with a regexp, all problems look like a ".*"

     



  • To SpectateSwamp,
    No one will ever be convinced! Stop this nonsense!


    To all who have replied to this nonsense,

    Thank [replace with leader of a religion to your choosing] this is 2008 and not some 100 years earlier and SS took the in obsessive interest in something he describes as Desktop Search. On top of that. He keeps referring to himself as the expert on that subject, no matter what everyone else is saying. What if it was the year 1900 or so and he was a self proclaimed medical expert? This idea alone boggles the mind and I'll leave it to the imagination of the reader to think of some horrible scenarios. Which might go like this:

    Dr. Doug has the solution to an illness taking down the masses: the yellow fever. After some ten years of experimenting Dr. Doug, who now calls himself YellowHead, creates his own pedestal on the town square of many towns and start rambling about having a cure for the worst disease known to the masses. But lo and behold he has a solution which has extracted from his swamp near his residence, which he refers to as his shack. In this shack he has his own (Very Big) chemical set (version 5) and he's mixing up a deadly medication a some recipies of hundreds of years back.
    What if some of the masses tried this medication?

    I had a lot of fun reading all this 2000+ posts nonsense but it has to stop somewhere I think ... let's just all ignore him.

    Finally I'd like to give you my interpretation of his definition on Desktop Search:
        "Searching some text in a file using a desktop application."

    * turning off the email subsciption to this thread *



  • @Tommie said:

    Finally I'd like to give you my interpretation of his definition on Desktop Search:
        "Searching some text in a file using a desktop application."

     

    I think he's basically reinvented the filing system that I used when I was a teenager... keep everything in one big pile in the middle of the floor and then you always know where to look for anything straight away!




  • Why is Everybody so clued-in on the importance of Desktop Search - This Thread!

    More Spectate Excitement comming your way. The latest video. With a screen ReShoot of a Cam Studio recording. (Never done before ever) Try this at home. Better than K-Tel Free. An auto catalog of all my mpg on c:\ and double random turned on. You gotta see this. Soon (45 minutes maybe)



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    An auto catalog of all my mpg on c:\ and double random turned on.
     

    Arg! Double-random goat porn! 



  • @spenk said:

    Just as a final point - when you create a sourceforge project and 'go open source' you really need to do other stuff such as post the application up for download, check code into the cvs repository so people can get access etc.
     

    Uh, hello? It is open source.  He is obviously waiting for some "nerd" here to do all that work for him.  The common man doesn't need to know about no CVS.



  • @Tommie said:

    * turning off the email subsciption to this thread *
     

    OMG, you had email subscription turned on?  That's 14000 seconds of your life wasted, copying and pasting your mails to inmail.txt.  You poor sob.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    More Spectate Excitement comming your way. The latest video. With a screen ReShoot of a Cam Studio recording. (Never done before ever) Try this at home. Better than K-Tel Free. An auto catalog of all my mpg on c:\ and double random turned on. You gotta see this. Soon (45 minutes maybe)

     

    <font size="7">NOBODY CARES YOU RETARD. </font>



  • @fist-poster said:

    @spenk said:

    @repeater said:

    Spelling the name of his own project correctly might have also been a good place to start.
    Good point, wonder how he will find it again if he doesn't know where to look to begin...

     

    He could use his search to locate URLs: each time you access an interesting web-site, append the url to a text file. Then SSDS won't have any trouble finding it and it can be easily modified (if it already doesn't support that) to paste the matches to clipboard. There is nothing you can't do with it if you have the flow-charts.

    Remember that SSDS can locate a keyword by the beginning and the end of the word. You can search for "spec/swamp" and it will find "specatateswamp" as well as "spectateswamp". 

    By the way: how does your favourite desktop search application compare to SSDS in searching the Web!?

     

    Sadly, although you are being sarcastic, that is probably a 100% accurate description of Swamp's workflow. 



  • Auto Catalog and Double Random Playback in under 2 minutes FLAT


    The latest Screen Re-Shoot Using Cam Studio Playback.

    Spectate_Swamp_11.mpg
    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1393901181267401065

     

    Here is complete list so you don't have to go hunting around.
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 


    Spectate_Swamp_01,mpg
    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=900379614001932661

    Spectate_Swamp_02,mpg
    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=2719618133911231085

    Spectate_Swamp_03,mpg
    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7589648200316339053

    Spectate_Swamp_04,mpg
    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7701410726094653274

    Spectate_Swamp_05,mpg
    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=2719571471662147308

    Spectate_Swamp_06,mpg
    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-7060921935075488561

    Spectate_Swamp_07.mpg
    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=8002756326845671406

    Spectate_Swamp_08.mpg
    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6441291974425114714

    Spectate_Swamp_09.mpg
    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-8761501834934679010

    Spectate_Swamp_10.mpg
    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6694888655631894126

    Spectate_Swamp_11.mpg
    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1393901181267401065

     


    The Cam Studio videos.


    Spectate_Swamp_04.avi
    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6255167552030368326

    Spectate_Swamp_05.avi
    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1475036950019151552

     

     



  • @SpectateSwamp said:


    The latest Screen Re-Shoot Using Cam Studio Playback.

    Spectate_Swamp_11.mpg
    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1393901181267401065

    What?  What was that supposed to demonstrate? 



  • @stolen_username said:

    @SpectateSwamp said:


    The latest Screen Re-Shoot Using Cam Studio Playback.

    Spectate_Swamp_11.mpg
    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=1393901181267401065

    What?  What was that supposed to demonstrate? 

     

    I'm not sure, but I think I speak for everyone here when I say I'VE GOTTA GET ME SOME OF THAT HOTNESS. 

    <font size="1">(Psst, maybe if we pretend to like SSDS, SS will go away for a while.) </font>



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    The latest Screen Re-Shoot Using Cam Studio Playback.

    This answered nobody's questions...and raised a few, like why are you using CamStudio and a hand-held camera?  

    -cw

     



  • @CodeWhisperer said:

    @SpectateSwamp said:

    The latest Screen Re-Shoot Using Cam Studio Playback.

    This answered nobody's questions...and raised a few, like why are you using CamStudio and a hand-held camera?  

    -cw

     

     

    Because uploading his Cam Studio videos to Google Video unacceptably reduces the resolution/bit rate so that the text is impossible to read, and he thinks the only solution is to "re-shoot" the whole thing using his camcorder.

    This is the same guy who posted his '93 Yellowhead election video by re-shooting the video that was already playing on a TV. 

    When all you have is a camcorder, everything looks like a....Fuck, I don't even know how to finish that sentence.

    (The funniest thing is that he is violently opposed to video editing using software, yet he will happily "reshoot" videos playing on his laptop screen.) 



  • @CodeSimian said:

    Because uploading his Cam Studio videos to Google Video unacceptably reduces the resolution/bit rate so that the text is impossible to read, and he thinks the only solution is to "re-shoot" the whole thing using his camcorder.
     

    To further clarify, somebody here asked him: "Why on earth are you shooting your laptop screen with a camcorder, why not use a decent screen capture utility like CamStudio?" He did, and Google Video made the resulting caps unreadable, so once again he COMPLETELY MISSED THE POINT, and started re-shooting his Cam Studio videos with his camcorder.



  • @CodeSimian said:

    When all you have is a camcorder, everything looks like a....Fuck

    Yes, everyone enjoys their new toys! When you've got a new camcorder, you've got to video in everything you think of, no matter how pointless it is!

    (I've already said I've learnt almost everything worth knowing about software engineering from the Ultima game series developer quotes. The rest of the quotes that aren't educational consist of surreally out-of-context quotes not unlike the quote above. =)



  • SSDS is slow - it's official!

    Hey, from the comments on Specatate's blog:@SpecatateSwamp said:

    Now for a wishlist for the new year ...  A speed version?

    So, the current version must be slow then.

    QED 



  • @GettinSadda said:

    Hey, from the comments on Specatate's blog:@SpecatateSwamp said:

    Now for a wishlist for the new year ...  A speed version?

    So, the current version must be slow then.

    QED 

     

    No, no, no.  That is a speed version, not a speedy version.  You need a different version to use when you are high on speed.  Come on!



  • Change of heart

    OK, I have changed my mind - I have figured out how to get rid of Specatate for good.

    Everybody repeat after me:

    Oh my God, I have seen the light - I now understand how perfect SSDS is.

    Your job here is done - please go forth and spread to good word to someone else.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    I'm sure you secretively have a copy of the source.txt on your computer somewhere.

    Riiiight... 'cause I am just waiting for the day that I can run VB programs on a Linux box...   Well, if that ever happens, I will be sure to use a real desktop search program to find that source.txt file again.

    @SpectateSwamp said:


    My email is getting filled with email after email when is it going to stop. Delete delete.....

     

    You know that most email clients have wonderful filtering features, right?  Oh, wait, that would be a time-saving device...



  • @CodeSimian said:

    The common man doesn't need to know about no CVS.
     

     

    Neither does SS and his so-called "swampies". I guess that SS uses his "search" to manage his source-code.         



  • @WeatherGod said:

    Riiiight... 'cause I am just waiting for the day that I can run VB programs on a
    Linux box...

    Can't you do that with Wine? Or recompile in Gambas, probably.



  • @Spectre said:

    @WeatherGod said:
    Riiiight... 'cause I am just waiting for the day that I can run VB programs on a Linux box...

    Can't you do that with Wine? Or recompile in Gambas, probably.

     

    Good wines should never be wasted on things like VB, thats what beer is for!

    Never heard of Gambas, never had a need for running VB stuff (and SS, I still don't see a need to run your VB program...). 



  • @GettinSadda said:

    OK, I have changed my mind - I have figured out how to get rid of Specatate for good.

    Everybody repeat after me:

    Oh my God, I have seen the light - I now understand how perfect SSDS is.

    Your job here is done - please go forth and spread to good word to someone else.

    I think I've tried that. It resulted in him calling me DerulaSwamp or whatever. You don't wanna be called GettinSwamp (or maybe you already have, but... you know...)

    @WeatherGod said:

    Good wines should never be wasted on things like VB, thats what beer is for!

    Memorable quote.



  • @Renan_S2 said:

    @CodeSimian said:

    The common man doesn't need to know about no CVS.
     

     

    Neither does SS and his so-called "swampies". I guess that SS uses his "search" to manage his source-code.         

     

    Yup, that was pretty much my point. 



  • @GettinSadda said:

    OK, I have changed my mind - I have figured out how to get rid of Specatate for good.

    Everybody repeat after me:

    Oh my God, I have seen the light - I now understand how perfect SSDS is.

    Your job here is done - please go forth and spread to good word to someone else.

     

    Unfortunately, I don't think Swampie will leave until someone takes stewardship of his "baby".  How do you think he was planning on porting it to Linux and Mac? 



  • SSDS could get Faster

    @GettinSadda said:

    So, the current version must be slow then.

    QED 

    It's fast but could be faster. The early executables had less baggage and I'm sure those versions would run faster. Maybe a re-write  into C, would get speeds in the 40,000,000cps range.


  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    @GettinSadda said:

    So, the current version must be slow then.

    QED 

    It's fast but could be faster. The early executables had less baggage and I'm sure those versions would run faster. Maybe a re-write  into C, would get speeds in the 40,000,000cps range.
     

    <font size="7">NOBODY WANTS TO PORT SSDS TO C/LINUX/MAC FOR FREE, OKAY?</font>

     So you can quit dropping coy hints about how much better SSDS would be if only it were on more platforms/written in a different language/etc.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    @GettinSadda said:

    So, the current version must be slow then.

    QED 

    It's fast but could be faster. The early executables had less baggage and I'm sure those versions would run faster. Maybe a re-write  into C, would get speeds in the 40,000,000cps range.

    Or, yanno, someone could just use one of the existing tools that already functions. Seems to me that it would take less time then rewriting something that is fundamentally broken written by someone who REFUSES to patch and fix his own bugs. I guess that makes me insane though.

    Also, whatever you do Spectate, don't respond to my previous question. Please don't. (Crossing fingers that this works, but I know it won't)



  • @repeater said:

    Also, whatever you do Spectate, don't respond to my previous question. Please don't. (Crossing fingers that this works, but I know it won't)
     

    Alas, he already forgot what your question was. 



  • @CodeSimian said:

    Alas, he already forgot what your question was.

    That's what SSDS is for. Search does never forget. Gain power above your DATA. Random makes it possible. Video playback and screen saver mode. It's all there. When will the Search Giant post their defense videos. If they don't they are DEFEATED.



  • @CodeSimian said:

    @repeater said:

    Also, whatever you do Spectate, don't respond to my previous question. Please don't. (Crossing fingers that this works, but I know it won't)
     

    Alas, he already forgot what your question was. 

    Yes, if only there was some way to search for these things. Hell, something built right in to the site might even work. But alas, such a thing does not and will never exist. Maybe if we all start now we could come up with something before 2018 (basing my estimates on SSDS dev time).

    @derula said:

    That's what SSDS is for. Search does never forget. Gain power above your DATA. Random makes it possible. Video playback and screen saver mode. It's all there. When will the Search Giant post their defense videos. If they don't they are DEFEATED.

    You are completely correct! Please excuse me for my ClueLessNEss.



  • @repeater said:

    @derula said:
    That's what SSDS is for. Search does never forget. Gain power above your DATA. Random makes it possible. Video playback and screen saver mode. It's all there. When will the Search Giant post their defense videos. If they don't they are DEFEATED.

    You are completely correct! Please excuse me for my ClueLessNEss.


    It is not your fault. That's because you aren't an expert on search. Without a day of training at the SwampShack. You know HorseShit. But I can see you're heading the right way. Maybe you port SwampSearch to C. RepeatSwamp. You're not as hopeless as MPSwamp.



    Ouch, I feel all dirty inside for typing swampy... it's fun, but it hurts.



  • @derula said:

    @repeater said:
    @derula said:
    That's what SSDS is for. Search does never forget. Gain power above your DATA. Random makes it possible. Video playback and screen saver mode. It's all there. When will the Search Giant post their defense videos. If they don't they are DEFEATED.

    You are completely correct! Please excuse me for my ClueLessNEss.


    It is not your fault. That's because you aren't an expert on search. Without a day of training at the SwampShack. You know HorseShit. But I can see you're heading the right way. Maybe you port SwampSearch to C. RepeatSwamp. You're not as hopeless as MPSwamp.



    Ouch, I feel all dirty inside for typing swampy... it's fun, but it hurts.

    I honestly physically shuddered when I got to the RepeatSwamp part. I still can't put my finger on what causes all of us all to have such a creepy and vile reaction to that. Something about it is more wrong than all of the other insanity in this thread combined.



  • @repeater said:

    I honestly physically shuddered when I got to the RepeatSwamp part. I still can't put my finger on what causes all of us all to have such a creepy and vile reaction to that. Something about it is more wrong than all of the other insanity in this thread combined.
     

    If you take another look at Swamp's avatar, and recall his repeated invitations to visit the "Swamp Shack" for "lessons" on "Desktop Search", I think all the (frightening) pieces of the puzzle start coming together.... 



  • Random large font Slowed text - Using Cam Studio

    @derula said:

    @CodeSimian said:
    Alas, he already forgot what your question was.
    That's what SSDS is for. Search does never forget. Gain power above your DATA. Random makes it possible. Video playback and screen saver mode. It's all there. When will the Search Giant post their defense videos. If they don't they are DEFEATED.
    Random Large font Slowed text is now uploading. A random start in a large patchwork of text from the net.

    I had to speed up the character display speed to compensate for Cam Studio. It's a worse system hog than Swamp search. Random will surprise you.



  • @CodeSimian said:

    @repeater said:

    I honestly physically shuddered when I got to the RepeatSwamp part. I still can't put my finger on what causes all of us all to have such a creepy and vile reaction to that. Something about it is more wrong than all of the other insanity in this thread combined.
     

    If you take another look at Swamp's avatar, and recall his repeated invitations to visit the "Swamp Shack" for "lessons" on "Desktop Search", I think all the (frightening) pieces of the puzzle start coming together.... 

    Exactly. It is that same weird vibe you get when a lecherous old man calls a girl "Sweetheart". Nothing wrong with it on paper, but it makes your spine jump out of your body due to all the insinuations and previous behavior.

    Also, maybe the fundemental disconnect we are all having with him really IS over the definition of desktop search - except he thinks desktop search means "searching for the bodies under the shack where my desk is". To the masses, indeed.



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    @derula said:

    @CodeSimian said:
    Alas, he already forgot what your question was.
    That's what SSDS is for. Search does never forget. Gain power above your DATA. Random makes it possible. Video playback and screen saver mode. It's all there. When will the Search Giant post their defense videos. If they don't they are DEFEATED.
    Random Large font Slowed text is now uploading. A random start in a large patchwork of text from the net.

    I had to speed up the character display speed to compensate for Cam Studio. It's a worse system hog than Swamp search. Random will surprise you.

    Hahaha you responded to someone mimicing you with almost the same type of bullshit. You are just too much.

    Please provide proof or reproducable tests / perf data for how Cam Studio is a system hog. Are you starting to get it through you thick skull that in computing, you can't JUST THROW OUT RANDOM STATEMENTS THAT YOU CAN'T BACK UP. Computers crunch numbers. Because they crunch numbers, you can measure how fast they crunch numbers. You CANNOT just make statements and expect everyone to believe, especially after the number of times you have been proven to be a liar and a fake. How can we trust you AT ALL?

    Yes, your "random" does suprise me, every time. But it shouldn't. Instead of random, how about answering some specific questions?



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    Random Large font Slowed text is now uploading. A random start in a large patchwork of text from the net.

    I had to speed up the character display speed to compensate for Cam Studio. It's a worse system hog than Swamp search. Random will surprise you.

     

    http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/b/benjaminfr109067.html

    @Benjamin Franklin said:

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

    Now, I realize this quote could apply to my repeated attempts to coax Swampie towards a modicum of sanity, but one of the many differences between Swampie and myself is that I HAVEN'T DEDICATED 10 YEARS OF MY LIFE TO THE FUNCTIONAL EQUIVALENT OF A TRIANGULAR WHEEL.

     



  • Cam Studio needs Bigger text

    @repeater said:

    Hahaha you responded to someone mimicing you with almost the same type of bullshit. You are just too much.

    Please provide proof or reproducable tests / perf data for how Cam Studio is a system hog. Are you starting to get it through you thick skull that in computing, you can't JUST THROW OUT RANDOM STATEMENTS THAT YOU CAN'T BACK UP. Computers crunch numbers. Because they crunch numbers, you can measure how fast they crunch numbers. You CANNOT just make statements and expect everyone to believe, especially after the number of times you have been proven to be a liar and a fake. How can we trust you AT ALL?

    Yes, your "random" does suprise me, every time. But it shouldn't. Instead of random, how about answering some specific questions?

    The Video from Cam Studio - Maybe I need to do it again with even larger Characters. What do you think

    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-4262008412722662036

    Try this test and you'll see the character display slow drastically when Cam Studio is running. You'll notice a considerable pause behind some words.

     



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    The Video from Cam Studio - Maybe I need to do it again with even larger Characters. What do you think

    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-4262008412722662036

    Try this test and you'll see the character display slow drastically when Cam Studio is running. You'll notice a considerable pause behind some words.

     

    @Benjamin Franklin said:

    <font size="7">The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results !!!???!!?@@%</font>



  • @SpectateSwamp said:

    The Video from Cam Studio - Maybe I need to do it again with even larger Characters. What do you think

    http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-4262008412722662036

    Try this test and you'll see the character display slow drastically when Cam Studio is running. You'll notice a considerable pause behind some words.

    That video is completely unreadable and useless. I have no idea what it is trying to show. How many times now have you been told this, and asked to stop?

    What you NEED to do is get a basic understanding of the field you are working in, and actually learn how to collect and present data. How have you existed "in the industry" for decades without having even the most basic understanding of computing?

    I asked for data, I got a blurry olive colored video. What did I expect?



  • @repeater said:

    How have you existing "in the industry" for decades without having even the most basic understanding of computing?
     

    He has been working in the fast-paced, high-stakes field of "data processing data data processing".  I'm not sure if there's much overlap with software development or IT in general.



  • @CodeSimian said:

    @repeater said:

    How have you existing "in the industry" for decades without having even the most basic understanding of computing?
     

    He has been working in the fast-paced, high-stakes field of "data processing data data processing".  I'm not sure if there's much overlap with software development or IT in general.

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  • @repeater said:

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  • Swamp stumbles into Lazy Forum

    LazySwamp is a name that may apply to the whole forum. Fill out the CVS, make a video of that. Show us right from startup. Quit repeating yourself. Answer all the dumb questions... Bla bla. Somebody else do the Source Forge stuff. Probably an attempt at sending Swamp search away. You still need some good videos demonstrating navigation thru video music pics text. Wow doesn't that excite you.


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