Psst....
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Continuing the discussion from Fork Discourse:
I think it's probably something that can be turned off.
Off is it's default state:
> New per category
Allow staff to create whisper posts
Allow users to create whisper posts[...]
This allows for 2 use cases quite flexibly.
Allow end users to share information with staff right in the stream
Allow staff to discuss stuff with other staff right in the streamPresuming users are allowed to create them, do 'end users' see their own whispers? Do they see replies to their own whispers?
Having enabled it however, I can't see any other UI for it - either to (dis)allow per category, or how to actually instigate one (presumably because per-category default is off, and I can't find where to turn it on.)
root@what:/var/www/discourse# grep -i whisper ./config/locales/client.en.yml -B5 -A5 --color emoji_one: "Emoji One" composer: emoji: "Emoji :smile:" options: "Options" whisper: "whisper" add_warning: "This is an official warning." toggle_whisper: "Toggle Whisper" posting_not_on_topic: "Which topic do you want to reply to?" saving_draft_tip: "saving..." saved_draft_tip: "saved" saved_local_draft_tip: "saved locally" similar_topics: "Your topic is similar to..." -- confirm: "Are you sure you want to abandon your post?" no_value: "No, keep" yes_value: "Yes, abandon" via_email: "this post arrived via email" whisper: "this post is a private whisper for moderators" wiki: about: "this post is a wiki; basic users can edit it" archetypes: root@what:/var/www/discourse#Looks like the only place the UI exists. Still digging...
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Harassing mods will never be easier.
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Who knows?
Have you tried with a non-staff account?
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Have you tried with a non-staff account?
But aren't moderators/admin supposed to be able to use the feature as well?
Anyway - no difference. I did want to see if any of our CSS was fucking it up, but:
https://what.thedailywtf.com/t/1-5-0-beta1-upgrade-has-broken-local-css-selection-menu/51418
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Who knows?
Have you tried with a non-staff account?
This feature is retarded. why don't they just use private messages?
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This feature is retarded.
Nevertheless, it's there, it's shiney, it's a new toy to play with.
A bit like when we discovered the naughty word filter had been incorporated into core ages ago.
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@DogsB said:
That was quite funny actually. The Belgium thing is fucking hilarious.This feature is retarded.
Nevertheless, it's there, it's shiney, it's a new toy to play with.
A bit like when we discovered the naughty word filter had been incorporated into core ages ago.
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Psst....can you hear me?
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Anyway - no difference. I did want to see if any of our CSS was fucking it up, but:
Ah, yes. When I preview the DC Default theme I can see a gear icon (options)
...and here's what it looks like posted:
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Having enabled it however, I can't see any other UI for it - either to (dis)allow per category, or how to actually instigate one (presumably because per-category default is off, and I can't find where to turn it on.)
You could go ask on meta.d.
...oh...wait..
Filed under: Too soon?
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And since I can't un-whisper until the local scripts are fixed (or be bothered to manually switch)...
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If people want to switch, they should be able to use these links:
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Ah, yes. When I preview the DC Default theme I can see a gear icon (options)
I can't even after hard-refresh. Is it hidden for Regulars?
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FUCK YOU JEFF. Why is the fucking composer now all light?!
(I know the Discologic behind it, but still).
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The stupid composer bar!
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Is it hidden for Regulars?
I thought the whole point was for users to talk to staff. But then I found that post I linked above, "No, whispers is amoderator-only feature." But it's not clear if only moderators can write them or can see them (vs admins?). Another sterling bit of communication from fail.d.
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Why is the fucking composer now all light?!
They want to transgress your concepts of good UX. IT'S ART!
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I'll fucking transgress Jeff.
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This feature is retarded. why don't they just use private messages?
Discourse is an issue tracker. It is nice to be able to handle confidential/internal information, such as which component is affected, internal reproduction URLs, etc, such that they cannot be viewed by the customer but are still in-context to anyone internal viewing the issue.
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Discourse is an issue tracker.
Try to report Discobug in bug tracker
THERE ISNT ONE USE META.D LOL
Try to use meta.d, need to report sensitive info
DONT POST SENSITIVE USE PM
Send PM
PM ARE
TO DISCOURSE WILL COED NEW FEATURE!
Upgrade discourse to get new feature to half-bake solve issue that would have been fixed wit bug tracker.
New bug introduced
UR DOING IT WRONG!!!!!!
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Discourse is an issue tracker
NO IT ISN'T
it is a bug obfuscator pretending to be a bug tracker.
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bug obfuscator
It doesn't do a great job of that either; many of the bugs are glaringly obvious.
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But you have to admit, they have solved the Streisand effect. If you only look at meta.d.
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Italics by default? What if I want to italicize something in a whisper?
Italics by default? *What if I want to italicize something in a whisper?*
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/slow clap
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This thread's notifications won't dismiss.
FRIST BUG !!111!!!!!1111111!!!!!!111111!!
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No repro. WOMM.
You're not staff? That's different.
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Oh hai. Did someone fix the menu? No...WTF?
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Uh...
And no, that's not a post streaming error, I went out and came back in again and it was still like that.
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Yeah... what?
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Maybe it's a whisper? The "jump to" link shows number 29, and the visible posts are 28 and 30.
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Except we're not supposed to be able to see whispers (as regular users). If so, we found a bug and it'll probably be awhile before meta.d finds out (if at all).
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....brb dying of laughter.
For serious?!!
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This was there first go at it:
Whisper posts generate unread badges and show on user profile/topic list (last poster)
Did the following post use the whisper feature? https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-do-i-stop-human-spammers/33514/11 If so there may be a few unwanted behaviors Topic list says I have an unread post that I can’t see What I see Visiting ZogStrip’s profile I see the “supposed” post...
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Also the other whispers don't seem to appear like that.
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Except we're not supposed to be able to see whispers (as regular users). If so, we found a bug and it'll probably be awhile before meta.d finds out (if at all).
Yep. That's a bug. LOLOLOLOL
I was indeed a whisper post.
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Maybe because they were "doing it right" and replying to the topic instead of to a specific post?
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Also the other whispers don't seem to appear like that.
That was the only whisper that was a reply to a particular post.
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WHOA THERE.
The profile page leaks whispers?
WHAT THE RECURSIVELY FUCKED FUCK?!
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This was there first go at it:
Ah, good find, @cpradio. He found us via discourse, IIRC, but he's One of Us.
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The profile page leaks whispers?
It used to leak other people's email addresses. Are you truly surprised that the profile page leaks something new they want to consider "private"?
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So, about 8 hours:
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Used to, now that I noticed the 3d timestamp ...
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@loopback0 said:
Also the other whispers don't seem to appear like that.
That was the only whisper that was a reply to a particular post.
Really?
This one of @abarker's looked like it was a reply to a particular post?
Also
is there a new [Uploading...]()thing while uploading? And why did the thing to cancel the upload turn into a blue cross?
Fucking hell. The whole changelog for Discourse 1.4 should just be "we fucked with shit that didn't need fucking with".
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What happens if you set it to NULL?
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New: true
Previous: f
Yeah, I know that's not new.
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This one of @abarker's looked like it was a reply to a particular post?
We can't tell until someone who can see them chimes in, but maybe it was a whisper reply to another whisper?
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Really?This one of @abarker's looked like it was a reply to a particular post?
It's a whisper reply to a whisper. Not a whisper reply to a
regularcis- post.
