Two Microsoft bugs




  • I have two bugs.  One is a picture, the other is an error message which unfortunately, I did not get a photograph of.

    In Halo 2, if the xbox cannot read your disc, it says something like "Unable to read disc.  It may be dirty.  Sorry about that"

    The second is this image.  I submitted it, but it's not really front page material.   Sorry about the slow upload.  I'm hosting this with my  home internet connection.Connected?



  • @belgariontheking said:


    Sorry about the slow upload.  I'm hosting this with my  home internet connection.

    Not that surprising since you didn't have an internet connection.



  • Hey, 

    Whose silhouet is that?

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    Possibly just a phrasing error. It's the connection that's currently active, so the MS copywrites put "connected".



  • The WiFi bug happens when your signal strength drops bellow an acceptable level or your router chokes (It could be a DHCP handling error). Essentially you get booted from the connection but because it wasn't a user-initiated disconnect, Windows still thinks you are connected. Only you aren't really. Sometimes even clicking Disconnect stops working - it won't do anything until you reset the NIC.



  • @belgariontheking said:


    In Halo 2, if the xbox cannot read your disc, it says something like "Unable to read disc.  It may be dirty.  Sorry about that"

     

    That's a bug? 



  • @zip said:

    @belgariontheking said:

    In Halo 2, if the xbox cannot read your disc, it says something like "Unable to read disc.  It may be dirty.  Sorry about that"

     

    That's a bug? 

    If it were a feature, it would clean the disc for you and keep going. 



  • You're right.  It's not a bug.  More of a popup potpourri.  But I consider it a Microsoft popup because Halo 2 was developed (sp?) while Microsoft owned Bungie



  • Sorry about the slow upload. I'm hosting this with my home internet connection.


    You know there is ImageShack or PhotoBucket, right?


  • Yeah, three reasons I didn't try that. 

    1)  I am doing this from work, so I didn't think I could get through the firewall

    2)  I feel more nerdy running a server in my home.

    3)  Plain old didn't think of it. 

    I can't edit the original post anymore, so I've reposted the pic using photobucket


     



  • @dhromed said:

    Hey, 

    Whose silhouet is that?

    My guess, somebody named Matt.
     



  • @vt_mruhlin said:

    @dhromed said:
    Hey, 

    Whose silhouet is that?

    My guess, somebody named Matt.
     

    But not the first or second Matts!



  • @belgariontheking said:


    In Halo 2, if the xbox cannot read your disc, it says something like "Unable to read disc.  It may be dirty.  Sorry about that"

    Didn't your xbox360 never show you the : to read this disc, please insert it in xbox360 console ?

    ..happens to me quite often
     



  • @MustBeUsersFault said:

    @belgariontheking said:

    In Halo 2, if the xbox cannot read your disc, it says something like "Unable to read disc.  It may be dirty.  Sorry about that"

    Didn't your xbox360 never show you the : to read this disc, please insert it in xbox360 console ?

    ..happens to me quite often
     

    Bah. These newfangled games and the messages that try to appear so cool and original.

    Let's try a little bit older game, like Dungeon Master. Page 1: "To begin your adventure, remove the game disk from the box."

    Microsoft doesn't innovate with Xbox360 either! Just same old stuff...



  • @WWWWolf said:

    Bah. These newfangled games and the messages that try to appear so cool and original.

    Let's try a little bit older game, like Dungeon Master. Page 1: "To begin your adventure, remove the game disk from the box."

    Microsoft doesn't innovate with Xbox360 either! Just same old stuff...

    It's even older. The first well-known incidence of this meme was in a series of printer models back in the 1980s. The manual had an entire chapter on how to open the box and find the manual. 



  • The story behind that message - an xbox360 disk is readable to DVD players, and its content is that message. Now, if it for some reason can't tell that it's a game, and just shows the dvd content, you'll get that message, somewhat odd in context.

    Anyone remember when early data CDs were "playable" on CD players as either the first or the last track? I wonder if anyone ever thought to arrange things so that fairly early in the ISO, a clip saying "This track is data, please insert this CD into a computer" would be audible?



  • @Random832 said:

    The story behind that message - an xbox360 disk is readable to DVD players, and its content is that message. Now, if it for some reason can't tell that it's a game, and just shows the dvd content, you'll get that message, somewhat odd in context.

    Anyone remember when early data CDs were "playable" on CD players as either the first or the last track? I wonder if anyone ever thought to arrange things so that fairly early in the ISO, a clip saying "This track is data, please insert this CD into a computer" would be audible?



    I seem to remember the Warcraft shareware version doing something like that.  Good God, that makes me sound old.



  • @Random832 said:

    Anyone remember when early data CDs were "playable" on CD players as either the first or the last track? I wonder if anyone ever thought to arrange things so that fairly early in the ISO, a clip saying "This track is data, please insert this CD into a computer" would be audible?

    Actually, some enhanced CDs (Mike Oldfield's "The Songs of Distant Earth" spring in mind - now there's a WTF in itself, the data track appears to use HFS only =) did something neater: The data track was totally invisible when played on a CD player. No need for weird hacks like that =)

    I don't know how freely the CD-ROM standards let you place the data tracks.

    However, placing sound in data track, well... you could possibly record more than somewhat garbled message for people who use antique CD players. "Warning: This CD is a data CD. Your speakers will now self-destruct." boom =)



  • @WWWWolf said:

    Actually, some enhanced CDs (Mike Oldfield's "The Songs of Distant Earth" spring in mind - now there's a WTF in itself, the data track appears to use HFS only =) ...

    Heh, nothing wrong with Mike being a Macintosh fan ;-) Although his music is good enough that I'd forgive him even if I was a Mac hater.

    Reminds though, my sister got this Britney Spears enhanced CD, and wanted to watch the extra content. At the time I had a 486 with Windows 3.11, and the content used QuickTime 2. So I installed QuickTime onto my PC so she could enjoy Britney. Ow. Then again, I think that may have been the version of QuickTime 2 that worked on my PC, instead of splattering garbage all over the screen. Back in my pre-Internet days I never took screenshots of anything funny, so I forget which was which.

    Mac OS 9 (no idea about X) also has a quirk where combined audio/data CDs can mount two volumes at once, one for audio, one for data. I forget what happened if you tried to read from both volumes at the same time. I don't think a CD with Mac, PC and audio data on would mount three volumes though.



  • @WWWWolf said:

    The data track was totally invisible when played on a CD player. No need for weird hacks like that =) I don't know how freely the CD-ROM standards let you place the data tracks.
    AFAIK, in a single-session CD, the data track must be the first one (eg. the Carmageddon II game disc is like that - first the game, then some tracks of music). Such CD works on all players and CD-ROM drives. If the CD is multi-session, then the audio tracks come first, and data track in the 2nd session, but very old CD-ROMs will not see the 2nd session at all (but it will also be effectivly hidden from CD audio players, as they can also only see the first session).


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