Another terrible project full of bugs
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I'll just leave this here.
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I'll just leave this here...
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First result for that image on Google:
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Silly Swedes.
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Lots of OSS projects don't handle bugs properly.
It took the ubuntu kernel team over three months to revert a change that made PS3 controllers (and clones of them) unusable, for example.
Granted, you could work around that by using mainline kernels, but it's still not a good thing.
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"Google does it, so why can't we?" If your friends jumped off a cliff, would you do the same?
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Yes, it's indeed a terrible project full of bugs.
I don't know if you were trying to be sarcastic.
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Oh well, I didn't even know there were phones shipping with barometer.
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Oh well, I didn't even know there were phones shipping with barometer.
i did. it's also not a show stopping bug, particularly given that the quality or readings one can expect to get from inside a phone is questionable at best.
i'm more interested in them fixing their handling of DHCP (like actually asking for addresses rather than assuming they are still available... still not fixed. though IIRC I devices also exhibit that bad behavior, and have since day 1) or their handling of Exchange (i don't like exchange, but it's what work uses)
and i'd also like them to fix that i can't highlight to quite on mobile without moving the end selector, and if i move the beginning selector first i have to start over.... that's annoying. but hey it's got to be because of bugs in V8, right? right?
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i did. it's also not a show stopping bug, particularly given that the quality or readings one can expect to get from inside a phone is questionable at best.
I have a Nexus 5 and I had no idea. I have no idea why you'd need one in a phone either.
i'm more interested in them fixing their handling of DHCP (like actually asking for addresses rather than assuming they are still available... still not fixed. though IIRC I devices also exhibit that bad behavior, and have since day 1)
I thought that was fixed in 4.3 or 4.4? It's not something I've ever (knowingly) fallen foul of, so don't know from experience either way.
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I have a Nexus 5 and I had no idea. I have no idea why you'd need one in a phone either.
that was rather my point.... i just used way more words.
I thought that was fixed in 4.3 or 4.4?
yes and no. it was "fixed" in that if it detects another device using its IP address it'll actually ask for a DHCP address.
so it's still broken and it has a WTF patch on the top of it.
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Not everyone. I've been standing upwind from a surströmming-opening exactly once. I nearly handed in my swedish passport on the spot. (Not meant as an eufemism)
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I guess a dung beetle is more appropriate
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Not everyone. I've been standing upwind from a surströmming-opening exactly once. I nearly handed in my swedish passport on the spot. (Not meant as an eufemism)
Life Tip #3467: Always keep the surströmming downwind.
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It always comes in a sealed container. Keep that container downwind in case it explodes…
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I thought it was interesting that after a certain date (say 2 years), all old bugs are just discarded. To me this makes sense:
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stuff has probably changed a lot in the last 2 years; are the original conditions and assumptions of the bug even valid?
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if a bug survives for 2 years the odds of it being a feature req in sheep's clothing are high
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if a bug survives for 2 years the odds of it being so minor that it isn't affecting "anyone" significantly, statistically speaking, are high
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it is good to clean house every so often and if the issue matters, it will come up again organically. And if it does not, well...
I remember Joel, my old business partner, talking about doing this every so often on their own product, FogBugz, which is .. wait for it.. a bug tracker.
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Isn't Discourse a bug tracker?
That depends. If you are a DiscoDev, of course it is. If you are a sane developer, then...fuck no, are you retarded?
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stuff has probably changed a lot in the last 2 years; are the original conditions and assumptions of the bug even valid?
How about before closing it, you actually read the bug and find out? The objection isn't to closing the bug, it's to closing the bug without reading it.
I know you've read JWZ's article about the CADT development model, man. Why not internalize some of that wisdom?
if a bug survives for 2 years the odds of it being a feature req in sheep's clothing are high
Those damned customers! Asking for features! What JERKS!
if a bug survives for 2 years the odds of it being so minor that it isn't affecting "anyone" significantly, statistically speaking, are high
Java's "home" variable points to the wrong path on Windows. It's been a bug affecting everybody using Java desktop apps significantly for over a decade now. (For example, it completely breaks Windows' Roaming Profiles feature by default.) And yet, it's still shipped with every JVM.
it is good to clean house every so often and if the issue matters, it will come up again organically. And if it does not, well...
If it does not, it's because people left your software because none of their fucking bugs ever got resolved.
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JWZ's article about the CADT
I was just on my way over with the express purpose of referencing that. So:
Filed under Wai U No 1box?
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Java's "home" variable points to the wrong path on Windows. It's been a bug affecting everybody using Java desktop apps significantly for over a decade now. (For example, it completely breaks Windows' Roaming Profiles feature by default.) And yet, it's still shipped with every JVM.
To be fair, Java was also the language that thought Windows 9 = Windows 95.
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I'm not sure how, but that website is making my muted laptop play screeching sounds.
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That's... I'm not sure if that's a thing that can happen?
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I think it's coming out of the screen. Weird.
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This is just me, but I'd probably be tempted at this point to set the computer on fire and throw it into the sea.
Do you have an exorcist nearby you can contact?
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I think it's coming out of the screen. Weird.
This has been @ben_lubar's last post since 5 hours ago.But I'm not really worried. I'm hardly in explosive radius.
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I'm not sure how, but that website is making my muted laptop play screeching sounds.
I think it's coming out of the screen. Weird.
I've actually seen that before, but I don't remember the circumstances. Probably an image which causes a signal pattern that stresses some capacitors somewhere.
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I've actually seen that before, but I don't remember the circumstances. Probably an image which causes a signal pattern that stresses some capacitors somewhere.
Yeah -- although I'd pin it on inductors more than caps (magnetostriction beats electrostriction)
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I wonder ...
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I wonder if this works on a LCD monitor as well as a CRT.
Also, computer/consumer/business hardware manufacturers generally don't care about EMC beyond Part 15 -- if they did, all this TEMPEST stuff would be much less of an issue. It's a real shame, too, because there are quite a few design techniques that can be incorporated to reduce a product's EM emissions without driving up the per-unit cost, and many of them have reliability and/or susceptibility benefits, too.
Filed under: be gone, GSM RFI!
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because people left your software because none of their fucking bugs ever got resolved
And for some people, you want them to leave. Remember, the customer is always right... unless the customer happens to be a lunatic psychopath serial killer.
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TDEMSYR. The serial killer is a fucking hero.
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I followed that tip. It was still awful. Makes me wonder if it is one of the reasons Sweden is one of ten-odd nations in the world that have never been invaded by England...
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How about before closing it, you actually read the bug and find out? The objection isn't to closing the bug, it's to closing the bug without reading it.
I personally read EVERY bug here: https://meta.discourse.org/c/bug?order=op_likes&status=open some quite a few times.
I also read all the closed bugs. So I am not sure where you are manufacturing your objection from.In other news, guess which browser has a bug that is leaving this puppy open (soon to reach 2 years old)
https://meta.discourse.org/t/chrome-keyboard-navigation-bug-in-compose-form/1611
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In other news ... here is why bug trackers are so awesome!
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I personally read EVERY bug here: https://meta.discourse.org/c/bug?order=op_likes&status=open some quite a few times. I also read all the closed bugs. So I am not sure where you are manufacturing your objection from.
Did I mention your name somewhere?
What the hell. Some random person jumping into some random conversation and assuming it's all about them. Chill that ego, man, the world doesn't revolve around your fat ass.
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I'm not into your new water sports porn site. Get the fuck out of here.
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And for some people, you want them to leave. Remember, the customer is always right... unless the customer happens to be a lunatic psychopath serial killer.
When you're getting hundreds or thousands of reports of the same bug, or, more to the point, you have X customers and more than x/10 are reporting the bug, and X>50, chances are, you're not dealing with that lunatic psychopath serial killer.
But you just MIGHT be dealing with TDWTF forum (in which case you may want to run for your life...)
TDEMSYR. The serial killer is a fucking hero.
QED
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Surströmming
...but perhaps hákarl is "better":
...and I deny having spent hours on Wikipedia studying Scandinavian fish "delicacies"...
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You are going to love 'lutfisk' then. Fish cured by dipping it in lye and then leave it out to dry for half a year, then brought back to life by soaking it in water. It is like eating a glass of water, and is considered a christmas speciality. Can't for the life of me figure out why!
... Have we now officially hijacked this thread and turned it into an expose over scandinavian weird fish habits?
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... Have we now officially hijacked this thread and turned it into an expose over scandinavian weird fish habits?
only momentarily. i'm sure we'll go off topic from the offtopic topic shortly.
it's
/(meta-)*off-topic/around here!
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My laptop makes screeching noises sometimes, but only when I'm copying stuff to the SSD.
Surströmming - Wikipedia
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Hákarl - Wikipedia
